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Old 03-04-2013, 11:52 PM   #121
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:03 AM   #122
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Great video and modification. Here's the thread for the video with lots of good info in it too. I found that soldering the wires was the best approach as the scotch quick connect splices do not stand up well to the environment in the wheel well area. After I soldered them, I used liquid electrical tape to put a rubber coating on the splice for protection. Works great.

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Old 03-14-2013, 02:37 PM   #123
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do you worry about voiding a warranty doing things like this, or things like this will not effect it?
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Brillant mod Glue! Don't know why this is not standard. I have gotten looks from other drivers too.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:24 PM   #125
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thanks beanboy. I see you're new- welcome to the forum. There is a whole world of knowledge here. Ask away!
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Hey all! Has anyone done this mod with the Recon LED turn signal and marker lights? Any issues? Thanks!
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:41 AM   #127
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Hey all! Has anyone done this mod with the Recon LED turn signal and marker lights? Any issues? Thanks!
One of the first mods I did on my white JKUS. No problems and looks awesome. Only con I've seen so far is the price. Wife couldn't believe that they are basically $60 EACH! I got all 4 for $240 off an eBay store. Put them on in the end of feb and all good....so far...
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I just did this mod on my '13. Super easy and works like a charm!
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:45 PM   #129
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I just did this mod on my '13. Super easy and works like a charm!
Same here!

Don't know why Jeep decided this wasn't a necessary thing.
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Old 07-27-2013, 06:46 PM   #130
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Since this is supposedly factory on a European JK, is there any way we can do it here with factory parts and no splicing?
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:40 PM   #131
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I skimmed through this thread and like the idea of the mod, but te alternating blink pattern when the headlights are on bother me. Is there any way to have the side marker blink in unison with each condition (lights on, lights off, etc)?
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:27 PM   #132
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Here is the best way: DRL-1 module

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If you do it this way, the side markers will always flash in synchronous phase with the front and rear turn signals, whether the parking or headlamps are on or off. They will not flash in opposite phase when the parking or headlamps are lit, as occurs with the other methods described below.
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I skimmed through this thread and like the idea of the mod, but te alternating blink pattern when the headlights are on bother me. Is there any way to have the side marker blink in unison with each condition (lights on, lights off, etc)?
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:22 PM   #133
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Another success

Just did the side light/turn signal mod last weekend to my 2014 JKS and it went just fine. Was able to do the work through the fender well without removing the grill. The turn signal plug can be removed from the parking/turn signal light as it's in full view via the front fenders. Following the aformentioned cutting/reconnecting and so forth went just fine and the side turn signals are a definate benefit under certain circumstances. I'd do Muth blinker mirrors if they had them, but alas no luck. I like to make every reasonable effort to keep people from crashing into me. Interesting that this feature was standard on many cars back in the muscle car era.
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:07 AM   #134
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Did the signal mod today. Used the splice/solder method, everything came out as expected.

Much easier to do if you remove the grill. When picking the wire to tap into remember it's the one of the three that is farthest from the black wire in the signal plug. On the driver side that wire is on the bottom, on the passenger side that wire is on top.

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Old 11-17-2013, 11:27 PM   #135
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Here's my contribution. I followed the wires back to a place where they can be neatly spliced together without draping any wires around:



Instructions and more pictures here: Marker Light Turn Signal Mod - Cleaner Wiring
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:35 AM   #136
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Hey all! Has anyone done this mod with the Recon LED turn signal and marker lights? Any issues? Thanks!
I have the Crown clear markers with this mod on my Jeep with no negative issues, would highly recommend them. Granted this is not LED but hopefully helpful info?
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:20 AM   #137
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Mod works great. It adds to the style and looks nice at night. Two wire mod is good because it works with you lights off during the day. Conect both wire into signal wire. Flashes wag wag when lights are on and the same time when the lights are off.
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Just this this mod on my lunch break in my driveway. Took ~30 minutes, that includes removing the grille, reinstalling it, and putting away tools.

Thanks OP for the great writeup, and the poster on Page 1 of this thread with all the pictures! I'd read through it a few times before, but hesitated to do the mod... but after taking off the grille and seeing what y'all were talking about - easy peasy!

I didn't disconnect the battery - or subsequently blow a fuse or bulb - I just made sure not to turn on interior or exterior lights until all the connections were made. I used the blue (16ga I believe) 3M quick connector thing-a-ma-bobs, crimped it closed with some pliers, tested the lights, then used electrical tape to cover the connection (and the exposed 1/2" of black wire from the side marker connector to the Jeep).

Quick, painless, and a noticeable safety improvement (I hope)! Definitely worth the few bucks in connectors and 30 minutes of my time.
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Did mine during lunch also. This is a Fun Mod! It'd cheap, it's fun, it's fast and it's visible. It just might keep someone from walking or driving into your Jeep! Thanks to OP and others who documented well. Works exactly as outlined on my '14 JKU Rubicon.

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do you worry about voiding a warranty doing things like this, or things like this will not effect it?
Only if you have a warranty issue with your turn signal or side marker light. But after reading through these posts - it looks like a lot of folks have done it with out problems. I did today at Lunch - fast and easy. I guess and the end of the day - it really depends on your dealer. I have a pretty good one. I read some other posts where one OPs dealer said his aftermarket radio was making his transmission act up. IF you have a dealer like that - then this will prob create warranty problems too
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I just did the 2-wire mod (just cut the existing wires to the marker light and merge them in with the turn signal wiring). quick and easy and seems to work as advertised.
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LED lights

Why won't this mod work with LEDs?
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Why won't this mod work with LEDs?
Because you are actually grounding your side marker lamp through the turn signal lamp and you can't ground through an LED.
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Because you are actually grounding your side marker lamp through the turn signal lamp and you can't ground through an LED.
If you use the plug-n-play led turn signals and side indicators it shouldn't make a difference the wiring doesn't change. Or am I just missing something?
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If you use the plug-n-play led turn signals and side indicators it shouldn't make a difference the wiring doesn't change. Or am I just missing something?
I'll try to answer here if for nothing else than if I'm way off, someone who knows what they are talking about will jump in and correct me....

Diodes (as in light emitting diode - LED) are electrical 'one-way valves'. This side marker trick relies on changing back and forth which lead is the ground to make the marker blink. A straight diode would prevent reversing the direction of flow of electricity.

It could be that some LED fixtures have circuitry to allow them to function without regard to polarity - then they should work, but otherwise, not. The LED backup lights I have only work if plugged in in the right polarity - IIRC..
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So is there an easy way to get this to work with LED bulbs as replacements? Maybe cutting the second wire and putting it somewhere?

Would it only not work with the marker as led or it wouldn't work even with the front signals as led?
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Here is a video I shot recently.

With the regular side marker lights (normal bulbs), the modification outlined above works perfectly.

After I changed my side marker lights to LED, they will only flash if the parking/running lights are on. They will not work at all if the lights are not on.

While I'm OK with this, others may not be but I just thought I'd illustrate how this mod works if you change to LED side markers. I think, I'm not 100% sure, but I think I can use my Superchips programmer to turn on the parking/running lights as "DRL's". That would fix this situation but I've not had time to check it out yet.

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A quick "back story" -

I used to have the stock lights in the fenders and when I cut my fenders, I tucked the lights up and under. I later decided that I didn't like the reduced visibility of the stock lights tucked up there. With the bumper that I have, I decided I could put LED's in the ends. The LED's I used provide GREAT visibility from a lot of different angles.

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If I do the two pin mod, it will free up the previous circuit from the side marker lights right? So can that circuit be used to install a low amp accessory light, like daytime running lights?
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I cut and paste this from another thread I posted this in that got a bit derailed and wanted to put it out there for those that have not heard of it:

Let me preface first by saying I cannot take credit for inventing this mod, I am only passing on what I learned. Also, I take no responsibility for your results, good or bad- perform this mod at your own risk. Read through the description several times carefully before performing. It literally only takes about 10 minutes, but you have to pay attention and splice the correct wires or it will not work. This mod will not work with aftermarket LED lights. Also, take a moment before you start to ensure both of your fender marker light bulbs are working, a lot of people drive around with burned out marker lights not knowing it. Also, if you are reading this in Europe or other parts of the globe, your Wrangler probably came from the factory like this, and you are all set.


It you have read this far into this thread, you probably aren’t cringing too much at the idea of putting sand paper to perfectly good clear coat so you can spray paint it with bed liner, so splicing a couple of wires shouldn’t be too scary. This is most easily done by first removing the grille. There are a few plastic screws that hold in onto the radiator housing on the top (be gentle if you use any tools, fingers are better because the break easy). Once these are out, gently pull- the bottom and sides are held onto the light housing and radiator housing by clips, which will release with gentle pulling pressure. Now turn the turn signal lamps ¼ turn to release them from the grille and set the grille aside.
You can start on either side, it does not matter. I did not disconnect the battery first, and had no problems. Look under your front fender and find the wires leading to your marker light. Gently squeeze the bulb socket and pull to release the socket from the fender flare (this will give you enough slack in the wiring to make this easier). Now look at the wiring to that light. There is a white and black wire. We are interested in the black wire. Follow the black wire back towards the engine compartment (it is wrapped in a cable shroud). You will find a plug where it goes into the engine compartment. You want to snip the black wire about an inch from this plug. If you have done this right, both the white and black wire will still be connected to the marker light, with only the white wire still connected to the Jeep’s electrical system. You will have about 12 inches of black wire coming off the marker light. It is important that you do not cut the wire at the end closer to the marker light, but rather the end closer to the engine compartment. We need to still complete a circuit with the light.


Now find the wiring coming off the turn signal. You will see three wires in this plug, one black and 2 white. We are interested in the white wire that is farthest from the black one (the wires are arranged in the signal socket as black/white/white). Again, follow this wire back into the cable shroud, separating it from the other white wire. If you accidentally use the middle white wire, this mod will not work. You now want to splice the black wire from the marker light with the outside white wire (farthest from the black wire) from the turn signal. There are all kinds of easy splicers available at most hardware or auto part stores, the blue color is for 16 gauge wire, which is what we want. Here is an example:

Dorman 85462 Blue 14-18 Gauge Weatherproof Wire Splice

Some folks go so far as to solder and heat shrink wrap their splice, I just used a splicer like above and wrapped the hell out of in electrical tape to keep it secure and dry.

Now it’s time for the moment of truth. If you did this correctly, when the headlights or running lights are off, your side marker light will now blink in unison with your turn signal. When your headlights or running lights are on, it will blink opposite your turn signal, in other words, when you are turning right, the signal will blink when the marker light is off and then the marker light blinks on when the turn signal is off. When there is no turn signal activated, the marker lights will perform as they used to previously, turning on steady when you have the running lights or headlights on.


On the first side I did, I did not compress the wire splicer hard enough and did not pierce the wire insulation. When you get the wires into the splicer, give the splicer a good squeeze with a pair of needle nose, you will hear a click noise as the splicer closes. If your connections are secure and you followed the directions above correctly, this will work. If you have a bulb burned out, the turn signal indicator on the display will blink super fast- this is your indication you have a bulb out.


After you have done both sides, the easiest test is to turn on your 4-ways with and without the headlights to ensure everything is working. If you are all set and your connections are taped/wrapped/secured, tuck the wires back into the cable shrouds and tuck everything back in. Twist the turn signal lights back into the grille, reattach the grille. Last, plug the marker light bulb socket back into your fender flares.


This is a pretty smart safety mod, as most vehicles on the road have “wrap around” turn signals that other drivers can see from both the side and the front. If you are driving down the road and someone is on your right or left and can’t see the front or rear of your Jeep, that means they cannot see your turn signal. With this mod your intentions are well broadcast to other motorists. As I mentioned earlier, prior to this mod I got a few looks when turning or changing lanes where it was obvious the other driver did not see any turn signal.


My 2004 TJ did this, I thought it was stock, but it had been wired for towing behind a motorhome. Was it stock or not?
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I'd say it was stock. Both of our 99 TJ's worked like that also.

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