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Old 06-11-2013, 05:34 AM   #361
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I like this one a lot... too bad it costs 2x a typical bumper

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Old 06-11-2013, 07:17 AM   #362
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Try this one from Pure Jeep. Not exactly the same, but less than half the cost!

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Old 06-12-2013, 05:48 AM   #363
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Try this one from Pure Jeep. Not exactly the same, but less than half the cost!

PUREJEEP: PJ1005: JEEP JK GRILL-GUARD HOOP FRONT WINCH BUMPER, front bumpers
Yes I'd seen that one. It looks nice as well. They told me the weight is 95lbs (which sounds surprisingly light) but shipping to NC would be $185 (ouch). I couldn't find many pictures of that bumper outside of their website.

Where I live we have more whitetail deer running across the road than squirrels. I've had many near misses and one that took out the front end on my Challenger, so I'd really like a pre-runner, or front mounted, automatic guns. A stinger might be sufficient so I'm still going back and forth on that.
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One thing I noticed is that all of the bumpers listed in the thread do not have provisions for retaining the Air bag timing crush cans. By simply putting a d ring mount at the end of the frame rail, all crush is eliminated. This can lead to early airbag deployment. The Mopar (factory offering) off road bumper has the production crush cans incorporated into the design. I work for Mopar, so yes I am biased!
I'd add an image but being new to the forum I dont have the knowledge yet.
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One thing I noticed is that all of the bumpers listed in the thread do not have provisions for retaining the Air bag timing crush cans. By simply putting a d ring mount at the end of the frame rail, all crush is eliminated. This can lead to early airbag deployment. The Mopar (factory offering) off road bumper has the production crush cans incorporated into the design. I work for Mopar, so yes I am biased!
I'd add an image but being new to the forum I dont have the knowledge yet.
Correct me if I am wrong but aren't the covers for the crush cans plastic? and if thats true then to have any effect on airbag deployment and reducing the risk of deployment at low speed, then wouldn't it have to hit the can directly because as soon as an object made contact anywhere else on the bumper the force would be transmitted directly to the frame negating the effect of the crush cans?
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Old 06-15-2013, 03:29 PM   #366
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Old 06-23-2013, 10:45 AM   #367
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I think this is a great thread. I have a question for those that have installed Smitty bumpers. Were the mounting holes correct? I ask because one of the first mods to my JK was side rails and nothing was even close to lined up. After that I had pretty much decided I would never by from them again. With that said, I do like the look of some of their bumpers and the wife decided I should rethink purchasing their products.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:01 AM   #368
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I installed the Rampage Recovery front bumper the other day:

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Correct me if I am wrong but aren't the covers for the crush cans plastic? and if thats true then to have any effect on airbag deployment and reducing the risk of deployment at low speed, then wouldn't it have to hit the can directly because as soon as an object made contact anywhere else on the bumper the force would be transmitted directly to the frame negating the effect of the crush cans?
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:47 PM   #370
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:36 AM   #371
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You are missing LOD bumpers! Great quality and look.
I'll second that... I love mine..... and the way the winch sits low is good for me too. 3/16 steel with a nice hefty satin finish. I forget how much but www.lodoffroad.com

2007-2013 Jeep Jk Signature Series Mid-Width Front Winch Bumper

The LoD Signature Series Mid-Width is constructed of 3/16" steel. The bumper includes two clevis mounts and comes standard with a winch mounting plate. The winch mounting plate is constructed of 1/4" steel. The bumper also comes standard with provisions to accept the factory fog lights or we can supply a light kit with provisions for those lights. If our kit is purchased it will come with two 55 watt halogen lights, and a wiring kit including a switch. An optional guard is also available as well as a bolt-on skid plate for even more added protection. You will have a choice of coating options. The semi-gloss textured coating is a close match to the factory fender flares.

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NOTE: Bumper comes standard to accept factory fog lights. For Jeeps without factory fog lights be sure to add the 55watt halogen light kit and we will provide provisions to install the non-factory lights.

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Anyone know anything about the Fab Fours bumper on the Skyjacker JK? (on the back of the latest Qtec catalog)

I don't see it in the catalog or online anywhere.

It has cutouts for what appear to be Rigid LED's, in both the bottom section as well as the grille guard (which reminds me of the grille guard on the R-SE bumper).

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I emailed them to find out.
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Old 07-06-2013, 04:07 AM   #374
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Hanson Euro Spec full width front bumper with steel skid plate. According to Hanson, bumper weighs 95lbs, steel skid weighs 17lbs. No frame modification needed. Also, teraflex 1.5 in performance (coil) leveling kit.

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Old 07-06-2013, 12:02 PM   #375
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MOPAR Off-Road bumper w/fogs, MOPAR front skid, and Engo E9000 winch. This pic was before I had a chance to wire the winch up so there's no solenoid box yet.

I also added the rear MOPAR bumper as well (no tire carrier). Measurements before and after indicate about 1/2" droop in the back and 3/4" in the front. I plan on swapping the steel rope for synthetic, so hopefully I'll get a 1/4" back on the front.

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Almost done with the ARB Deluxe Bull Bar front. Not sure if I'm going to hook up the turn signals though, the directions are horrible and meant for RHD JKs. Haven't found much out there thats helpful. If anyone has any good links let me know!
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Almost done with the ARB Deluxe Bull Bar front. Not sure if I'm going to hook up the turn signals though, the directions are horrible and meant for RHD JKs. Haven't found much out there thats helpful. If anyone has any good links let me know!
If you're not going to hook them up, you could replace them with more fog light (if you can find that size)
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I was looking up the definition of "Bull Bar"... just curious how it came to be named and read that they are "banned" in European Union countries because they might hurt a pedestrian.
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I was looking up the definition of "Bull Bar"... just curious how it came to be named and read that they are "banned" in European Union countries because they might hurt a pedestrian.

Probably because of the similarity between a bulls horns and having the bar on the front.
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If you're not going to hook them up, you could replace them with more fog light (if you can find that size)
I am leaning towards hooking them up, just going to be darn sure I've got the wires right before I do. Just going to tuck & tape'em in the meantime
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One thing I noticed is that all of the bumpers listed in the thread do not have provisions for retaining the Air bag timing crush cans. By simply putting a d ring mount at the end of the frame rail, all crush is eliminated. This can lead to early airbag deployment. The Mopar (factory offering) off road bumper has the production crush cans incorporated into the design. I work for Mopar, so yes I am biased!
I'd add an image but being new to the forum I dont have the knowledge yet.
Both the AEV and ARB bumpers have crush cans mounted at the end of the frame rails just like the stock bumper. The AEV ones are fabricated as part of the bumper. With ARB you cut the crush cans from the stock bumper and mount the crush can base plate cutout between the frame rails and the bumper (I know this because I just did it!!!)
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I was looking up the definition of "Bull Bar"... just curious how it came to be named and read that they are "banned" in European Union countries because they might hurt a pedestrian.
A bullbar (also roo bar or nudge bar in Australia) is a device fitted to the front of a vehicle to protect its occupants in a collision with a large animal.

The "bull" in the name refers to cattle, which in rural areas sometimes roam onto roads and highways.

We get alot of deer crossing roadways around here, which is precisely why I wanted a bumper with a bull bar.

If you watch any of the ARB videos on their site, you'll hear them calling it a roo bar. Apparently Kangaroos are the equivent of deer in the austrailian outback.
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I want a stubby because I'm going with flat fenders in the near future and the full width doesn't look right with the flat fenders. If I was keeping stock fenders, there are some nice ones that flow right up in the fenders and look great!
This is exactly what I've been thinking! Do you know where I might find some pictures of full and mid width bumpers with flat fenders?
I figured there would be at least a couple out there, but have yet to find them.
I've seen flat fenders w/ stubby bumper pictures, and factory fenders w/ stubby bumper pictures.
Still not full width or factory bumper with flat fender pictures. It must look awful!
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This is exactly what I've been thinking! Do you know where I might find some pictures of full and mid width bumpers with flat fenders?
I figured there would be at least a couple out there, but have yet to find them.
I've seen flat fenders w/ stubby bumper pictures, and factory fenders w/ stubby bumper pictures.
Still not full width or factory bumper with flat fender pictures. It must look awful!


Just find my jeep a couple pages back... It's the all white one.... LoD mid width and with flat fenders
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Body Armor High Clearance Bumper

Installed the Body Armor 4x4 bumper. On my 2012 JK the side frame bolts don't line up with the frame holes and the spacers are off by about 1/4" so quite a bit of adaption was required to make it work for the side frame bolts...
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Installed the Body Armor 4x4 bumper. On my 2012 JK the side frame bolts don't line up with the frame holes and the spacers are off by about 1/4" so quite a bit of adaption was required to make it work for the side frame bolts...
I never understood why companies make stuff that don't line up. This is unacceptable to me. I did that once with the Ace sliders and having to grind the washers to make it fit and I vowed I will never do that again. If it doesn't fit it like OEM it's not for me. I'm not bashing you so don't take this the wrong way. Some like the challenge of making something fit but not me.
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I never understood why companies make stuff that don't line up. This is unacceptable to me. I did that once with the Ace sliders and having to grind the washers to make it fit and I vowed I will never do that again. If it doesn't fit it like OEM it's not for me. I'm not bashing you so don't take this the wrong way. Some like the challenge of making something fit but not me.
From looking at the instructions before I bought it I could see that the side bolts were likely designed for an earlier model JK because the crash bar configuration changed at some point and this bumper bolts into the vertical support structure for the crash bar.

Body Armor's price for a winch mount, bull bar mid-width bumper is substantially less than much of the competition and it looks cool to boot.

I was itching to cut the crash bar off anyway and I was able to use the reinforcement plates from my stock bumper to make up the spacer distance without much trouble.

I'd guess there's enough variability in different year model Jeeps to where few manufacturers get it right for every model year.
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From looking at the instructions before I bought it I could see that the side bolts were likely designed for an earlier model JK because the crash bar configuration changed at some point and this bumper bolts into the vertical support structure for the crash bar.

Body Armor's price for a winch mount, bull bar mid-width bumper is substantially less than much of the competition and it looks cool to boot.

I was itching to cut the crash bar off anyway and I was able to use the reinforcement plates from my stock bumper to make up the spacer distance without much trouble.

I'd guess there's enough variability in different year model Jeeps to where few manufacturers get it right for every model year.
I must say it looks good. I have that same color. My point really is that companies should design stuff specific to the make and model. We all know the companies that take the extra effort to build quality stuff and those that flat out don't. This is just my opinion which means nothing in the grand scheme of things but I know I will not partake in such blasphemy lol.
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Sorry if this has been brought up..
On the Arb Bar, does the Arb label come off without leaving a mark.. I love the look of the bumper, but for me the label is a deal breaker.

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