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Old 10-30-2013, 09:45 AM   #1
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Metal Cloak 3.5" game changer ARB

I am thinking of going all out and installing this lift. Anybody have any reviews that have it installed currently? Any negatives, anything I need to be aware of? I currently have a total stock suspension. Thanks

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i will also be installing this lift in the spring. i go back and forth between the game changer lite and the game changer. it is hard to justify the cost for the 6 pak shocks. i have found more users running MC game changer and MC game changer lite on the jk-forum. I have not heard a single complaint about either setup. the trick is finding the someone who has driven both the regular and lite to give an honest takeaway.

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If it helps, I have the 2.5" of the same suspension and there are no negatives. I have ridden in a JKU with the 6paks and the onroad ride is essentially the same. Offroad both are highly capable, the 6paks just more so. The question is: are you going to be doing the really difficult stuff often enough to justify the cost difference?
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If it helps, I have the 2.5" of the same suspension and there are no negatives. I have ridden in a JKU with the 6paks and the onroad ride is essentially the same. Offroad both are highly capable, the 6paks just more so. The question is: are you going to be doing the really difficult stuff often enough to justify the cost difference?
Personally, I don't plan to do the 6paks at this time. Not sure I would need that. What are your thoughts between metal cloak and other brands? Have you ridden in other Jeeps with other suspension systems for comparison? Trying to make the best decision, and not have to redo it later. Thanks.
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I haven't ridden in Jeeps with any other brand lift. I choose Metalcloak because their goal is to provide the maximum amount of wheel travel in the smallest possible lift, which is what I wanted. And I like the fact that it doesn't feel like it is lifted to drive; it feels like a more stable and better-handling stock vehicle. Can't say another brand wouldn't be a better fit for you, but you definitely wouldn't be disappointed with the Gamechanger.
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also, the only other thing the 6paks have going for them is they can be rebuilt for about half the cost of a new OME shock. it would still take a ton of miles and a few rebuilds for them to break even but its there.
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I have the MC 3.5" & Fox 2.0 w/ Resi. This puts me in the middle cost wise between the lite and the 6 pack kit. I was in some cheaper loaner shocks waiting for the backorder Fox to arrive and I did not expect much but there is a noticeable improvement with the Fox. One thing I have to do know as you can see in the pic is move my front lower shock mounts outward one mount width because at full flex it puts the shock shaft at an angle. Click image for larger version

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I am thinking of going all out and installing this lift. Anybody have any reviews that have it installed currently? Any negatives, anything I need to be aware of? I currently have a total stock suspension. Thanks
I have this lift with the 6Pak shocks. Completely awesome lift and great guys at Metalcloak to help! Just installed mine 2 weeks ago now. No negatives yet. Nothing to be aware of that I know yet. 6Pak shocks are expensive, but if you ever break them, all you do is send metalcloak the shock back with $75, and they will rebuild them. I wanted to do my lift once, and I think this was the perfect setup for me to handle everything I wanted. I see a lot of jeeps continue to upgrade from the start.

Just some drilling of new holes for mounting brackets and some grinding, but all very manageable. I am new to jeeps and lifts, and was able to do this lift with a few phone calls to Metalcloak, but hey, it got done.
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I have the 2.5" "dual rate ARB" kit (will piece it into a GC Lite kit by adding the rest of the arms as $$$ allows) and love it. I was talking to the MC guys a couple months ago (they're local to me) at a "Skillz Day" they put on at the local offroad park and they told me basically the offroad performance of the ARB shocks as far as actual shock absorption and downtravel is nearly as good as the 6 packs and that's why they chose them for a cheaper option. They told me the biggest benefit of the 6 packs is uptravel. The 6 packs can compress a lot farther due to their design
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also, the only other thing the 6paks have going for them is they can be rebuilt for about half the cost of a new OME shock. it would still take a ton of miles and a few rebuilds for them to break even but its there.
What they have going against them is that the nitrogen requires recharging periodically.
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I have the MC 3.5" & Fox 2.0 w/ Resi. This puts me in the middle cost wise between the lite and the 6 pack kit. I was in some cheaper loaner shocks waiting for the backorder Fox to arrive and I did not expect much but there is a noticeable improvement with the Fox. One thing I have to do know as you can see in the pic is move my front lower shock mounts outward one mount width because at full flex it puts the shock shaft at an angle. Attachment 475370 Attachment 475378 Attachment 475386 Attachment 475394

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I have this lift with the 6Pak shocks. Completely awesome lift and great guys at Metalcloak to help! Just installed mine 2 weeks ago now. No negatives yet. Nothing to be aware of that I know yet. 6Pak shocks are expensive, but if you ever break them, all you do is send metalcloak the shock back with $75, and they will rebuild them. I wanted to do my lift once, and I think this was the perfect setup for me to handle everything I wanted. I see a lot of jeeps continue to upgrade from the start.

Just some drilling of new holes for mounting brackets and some grinding, but all very manageable. I am new to jeeps and lifts, and was able to do this lift with a few phone calls to Metalcloak, but hey, it got done.
What size tires are you running with this setup - looks perfect to me.
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What size tires are you running with this setup - looks perfect to me.
Toyo Open Country M/T's. 35X12.50R17LT. I do love it. Awesome tires too.
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for those of you who have MC lift installed, what did you do for the exhaust? drive shafts?
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for those of you who have MC lift installed, what did you do for the exhaust? drive shafts?
I have the 2.5" MC lift and added exhaust spacers. I have a minor exhaust rattle starting off from a stop. Now I'm thinking about ditching the spacers and just getting a new front driveshaft.
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for those of you who have MC lift installed, what did you do for the exhaust? drive shafts?
Teraflex spacers for now. Will yank them and put in a new DS down the road when I have the other set of front control arms and/or the stock driveshaft boot explodes.
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What they have going against them is that the nitrogen requires recharging periodically.
Elaborate?

And for the rest also confused... ARB in this case refers to OME (Old Man Emu) shocks. So there is MC gamechanger and MC OME basically. Gamechanger "lite" is a decieving way to advertise it I feel like.
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for those of you who have MC lift installed, what did you do for the exhaust? drive shafts?
I'm running stock driveshafts and stock exhaust. They have an optional sway bar drop bracket that clear the exhaust. For the driveshaft, I know down the road I'll replace mine when it goes. But for the time being I have no issues. I asked them and they said just see where your limited in terms of the driveshaft and just know that till you replace it. If I wreck it, I'll take it off and drive home and order a coast or je reel.
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I'm running stock driveshafts and stock exhaust. They have an optional sway bar drop bracket that clear the exhaust. For the driveshaft, I know down the road I'll replace mine when it goes. But for the time being I have no issues. I asked them and they said just see where your limited in terms of the driveshaft and just know that till you replace it. If I wreck it, I'll take it off and drive home and order a coast or je reel.

The relocation bracket is use for two reasons. One is the six pack shocks with stock muffler, they need more room so the kit moves the swaybar to give that. The other reason is if you have >5.5" of backspacing i.e. factory wheels. It drops the swaybar and you reuse the factory links so you don't rip out your sidewalls.
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Elaborate?

So there is MC gamechanger and MC OME basically. Gamechanger "lite" is a decieving way to advertise it I feel like.

All rebuildable style shocks leak off a little nitrogen over time, because that is what centers the body on our 6pak it is more noticeable if one side has less pressure then the other. It does not take much to cause the body to walk to one side and can easily be topped off.

We felt the same way about the naming of the kits and have changed it. We now have the Gamechanger 6pak edition and the Gamechanger OME edition.
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We felt the same way about the naming of the kits and have changed it. We now have the Gamechanger 6pak edition and the Gamechanger OME edition.
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what about the clearance gain using 6 pak shock relocation brackets?
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I am New here, and my JK is 100% stock, i will be running 33-12.5 Baha Claws. i plan on using the MC Game Changer lite, my confusion is with the exhaust spacers or shaft swap. can someone please explain the issue. or post a pic that kind of explains it, Thank you in advance!
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I am New here, and my JK is 100% stock, i will be running 33-12.5 Baha Claws. i plan on using the MC Game Changer lite, my confusion is with the exhaust spacers or shaft swap. can someone please explain the issue. or post a pic that kind of explains it, Thank you in advance!
If you don't run exhaust spacers or a Y pipe on a 2012+ you'll rip the boot in the middle of the shaft because it will contact it when the axle droops down. Eventually you may also rip the CV boot where it connects to the transfer case in which case you'll need a new shaft also.
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I have a 2012 JKU with the 3 1/2" MC GC Lite(Old Man Emu) nitrocharged shocks. I retained the stock driveshafts for about 2 years before I had to replace the front shaft due to torn boot. I added the exhaust looop delete instead of the spacers. That was done during initial install. Rear shaft is still intact. Front was replaced with an Adams driveshaft.

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