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Old 07-06-2013, 10:03 AM   #1
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Metalcloak 2.5 vs 3.5" lift

I am trying to decide on the metalcloak duroflex lift weather I should get the 2.5 or 3.5" lift. I will be running most likely 35" tires and I don't plan on changing the stock fenders.

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I was trying to decide the same thing on my wife's '13 JKUR.

I decided on the 2.5. My initial reasoning was due to the potential drive line issues.

I finished the install last week with 315/70/17's on Fuel Revolvers. I'm certainly glad I did not go any higher. I have Ace Front and Rear bumpers and rock sliders on order which will lower the Jeep a bit. I'm actually glad as at 5'10", it's a stretch for me to climb in.

No regrets on the choice of going Metalcloak. The installation was pretty straight forward though the instructions need work.

I have not had the Jeep Offroad yet with the lift. On the road, it's a much firmer ride. The front end dive while braking is virtually gone. Around turns, the lean has all but disappeared. I want to say the ride quality is better than stock. I would say it is different than stock for the better.

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Up to you. These kits lift higher then advertised. My 2.5 GCL lite got 4-4.5 front and 2.5-3 in the rear. 18/60 OEM springs for reference... It's tall for a 2.5 lift. Didn't settle all that much either.
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Did anybody need to change their front driveshaft?
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It's not just with lift height you need to worry about the driveshaft.

- shock length. Are the shocks going to allow the drive shaft to come in contact with the exhaust/cross member ?

- caster correction. Some people like to push caster over stock. This only increases DS angle.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:33 PM   #6
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Up to you. These kits lift higher then advertised. My 2.5 GCL lite got 4-4.5 front and 2.5-3 in the rear. 18/60 OEM springs for reference... It's tall for a 2.5 lift. Didn't settle all that much either.
I am one of the engineers at MetalCloak. TexasRubi has it is exactly right, by design.

The stock (factory) JK wrangler comes with 1.5"-2.0" of rake. In other words, the front of the Jeep is 1.5"-2.0" lower than the rear of the Jeep. The first thing we do when designing springs is remove the rake so that the Jeep is level from front to rear to give the Jeep that traditional look and better off road performance. Therefore when we design a 2.5" lift we actually have to lift the front of the Jeep by 4.0"-4.5".

In addition we also shoot for approximately 1/2" taller than spec to allow for bumpers, tire carriers, skid plates, armor, steel fenders, roll cage etc. A fully outfitted Jeep will sit very close to specified height.

What we have found over the years is that our customers DO NOT return springs that give a little extra lift....but our customers DO return springs that result in a lift under specification.

123Jato...based on the limited information in your original post, I would recommend the 2.5" lift.

I hope this information is helpful.
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I spoke to will and I decided on the 3.5 inch lift, I will let you know how it is when I get it and install it.
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I am trying to decide on the metalcloak duroflex lift weather I should get the 2.5 or 3.5" lift. I will be running most likely 35" tires and I don't plan on changing the stock fenders.
I went with the 3.5. Like you, I wanted to keep the stock flares and I'm GLAD I went with the 3.5. I still got a tiny bit of rubbing between the tires and the flares, even after adding a 1.25" BL. However, that only happens off-road and I'm running 37s, not 35s. With 35s, you should get a lot more articulation than me.

Ride has been great on and off-road. Also, I haven't had to replace my drive shaft yet. It's been at least 7,000 miles since the lift.
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I went with the 3.5. Like you, I wanted to keep the stock flares and I'm GLAD I went with the 3.5. I still got a tiny bit of rubbing between the tires and the flares, even after adding a 1.25" BL. However, that only happens off-road and I'm running 37s, not 35s. With 35s, you should get a lot more articulation than me.

Ride has been great on and off-road. Also, I haven't had to replace my drive shaft yet. It's been at least 7,000 miles since the lift.
Sounds great, how is the ride quality on and off road and what shocks did you get?
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Good choice on the 3,5" lift.
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Sounds great, how is the ride quality on and off road and what shocks did you get?
Everything took a couple of days of getting used to, but once everything was torqued again after 500 miles, the ride has been amazing; better than stock both on and off pavement. I'm currently running the OME shocks, but will upgrade to the 6-Pak at some point.

As for the testament of the ride, I kid you not... I had a guy who owns a TJ w/ a long arm kit spot me through a narrow part of the ORV park. Once done, I gave him a ride up a rocky hill back to his rig. His exact words, and I quote: "Man, this feels completely different from my ride. It feels like I'm floating on a cloud of titties!"

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Everything took a couple of days of getting used to, but once everything was torqued again after 500 miles, the ride has been amazing; better than stock both on and off pavement. I'm currently running the OME shocks, but will upgrade to the 6-Pak at some point.

As for the testament of the ride, I kid you not... I had a guy who owns a TJ w/ a long arm kit spot me through a narrow part of the ORV park. Once done, I gave him a ride up a rocky hill back to his rig. His exact words, and I quote: "Man, this feels completely different from my ride. It feels like I'm floating on a cloud of titties!"

Nuff said!
Yea, I am trying to decide between the 6paks and the fox shox with reservoirs. Looking for the pre running aspect but the 6 paks seem better because it is like 2 shocks in one so it should absorb faster. They also wouldn't be too much more compared to the fox with the adjustability.
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"Man, this feels completely different from my ride. It feels like I'm floating on a cloud of titties!"

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Anyone have any pics of either lift of THEIR ride?
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Anyone have any pics of either lift of THEIR ride?
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Any pics of the 3.5 GCL out there?
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Here is Gamechanger 3.5 with 6 pack shocks and Metalcloak fenders and 35 inch KM2
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Here is Gamechanger 3.5 with 6 pack shocks and Metalcloak fenders and 35 inch KM2
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Damn. Even with 35's AND flats that looks awesome. Driveshaft upgrade yet?
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Here is Gamechanger 3.5 with 6 pack shocks and Metalcloak fenders and 35 inch KM2
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Looks great just about to order my 3.5 GCL setup. With putting 35s on the stock rims what if any wheel spacer did you go with? I want to keep the stock rims as I like the look and I have the same rims as you do.
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Looks great just about to order my 3.5 GCL setup. With putting 35s on the stock rims what if any wheel spacer did you go with? I want to keep the stock rims as I like the look and I have the same rims as you do.
1.5 spacers, got it I read your build thread thanks
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Damn. Even with 35's AND flats that looks awesome. Driveshaft upgrade yet?
I ordered the 3.5" and am wondering about the DS also?? I wanted a little more lift than my AEV gave me at 2.5" but I am not sure I want to replace my DS.
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I did do both front and rear Tom Woods drive shafts, and I am regearing to 4.88s this weekend.
I have added a lot of weight with the bumpers, fenders etc and am often out with 3 or 4 passengers

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I did do both front and rear Tom Woods drive shafts, and I am regearing to 4.88s this weekend.
I have added a lot of weight with the bumpers, fenders etc and am often out with 3 or 4 passengers

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Which TW driveshaft did you go with??
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Wow, I'll probably get 4"-4.5" of lift on my light JKU? Can't even think about doing that. A real 3" is what I am shooting for.
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Wow, I'll probably get 4"-4.5" of lift on my light JKU? Can't even think about doing that. A real 3" is what I am shooting for.
I don't mind the extra lift as long as replacing the DS is all that is needed.
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I'm now thinking the 2.5" would be better. I could possibly avoid a drag link flip kit.
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I'm now thinking the 2.5" would be better. I could possibly avoid a drag link flip kit.
I know I'm thinking the same, but I have the 3.5 kit and 37's sitting in my garage as we speak.

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