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Old 07-17-2012, 11:31 AM   #1
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Metalcloak lift

So.... What do I do... Metalcloak, teraflex, or rock krawler lift..???
I really seem to be drawn to the Metalcloak lift.
Want a real good all around machine... One that drives nice on road and can do some hard core off roading without going too extreme (u know.. The ... Thats crazy stuff)...
Do any of these come with a warranty?
Would like to hear from people who actually have these lifts and hopefully have had both at some point or have driven both.

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I have Teraflex, would recommend Rock Krawler or Teraflex for sure. I am going to change out to RK soon though, if that means anything.

Metalcloak is interesting but still new to the JK lift game so there isn't a ton of JK's with tons of miles on their kits and their duroflex control arm joints. They are real pricey too.

Teraflex is a good kit too but I like RK's stuff a little better and it is a little more affordable IMO. All 3 companies stand behind their products, so no issues there.

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Old 07-17-2012, 11:51 AM   #3
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I have none of the above, but I will way in anyway... LOL! I was fairly set awhile back on the RK 2.5 pro system. Basically their 2.5 in all aluminum. The RK guys are on a couple of other forums and I was surprised to see them recommending the 2.5 over the 3.5 for alot of situations, including mine. Then...

Then I came across a lengthy tech thread about Metalcloak which turned into their engineer explaining/defending their new tech. The RK guys were their. After everything shook out in that thread I was curious about Metalcloak and tried to devour as much as I can, which ain't alot yet!

Here is my take. If you like being an early adopter of new tech (not many miles on their joints or shocks yet) and don't mind spending some serious money to be a partial guinea pig then Metalcloak is for you. If not, stick to the other proven system. Metalcloaks full suspension, including their six pack shocks retails at 4k. You will be getting their new joints, their new shocks and a promise to make everything right. Which brings up their warranty. There was alot of talk about their warranty or lack of written warranty. Alot of potential customers seemed put off by the idea that Metalcloak's warranty is that they tell you that they will always "take care of their customers". They had trouble articulating how always, but said they would. Personally, as a small business owner, I know what they are saying and it makes me feel good. But alot of people wanted a written warranty, so they were working on one.

From my non-real world experience here is my opinion. The RK is obviously a good kit, and I think that if someone is running it, they are most likely happy with it. It is proven tech. The Metalcloak system will set you back alot more, but MAY (maybe not) be a little smoother ride. The metalcloak system does have alot of flex and will require some fender work as well.

As for me, I am still trying to explain to my wife why we NEED a metalcloak suspension and fenders! LOL. Good luck.
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:55 AM   #4
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I have Teraflex, would recommend Rock Krawler or Teraflex for sure. I am going to change out to RK soon though, if that means anything.

Metalcloak is interesting but still new to the JK lift game so there isn't a ton of JK's with tons of miles on their kits and their duroflex control arm joints. They are real pricey too.

Teraflex is a good kit too but I like RK's stuff a little better and it is a little more affordable IMO. All 3 companies stand behind their products, so no issues there.

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Old 07-17-2012, 12:10 PM   #5
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I was all set for the 2.5 pro max flex system. I called rock krawler and they recommended me going with the 2.5 max flex non alum system for my needs. Can switch over to the 3.5 at any time in the future but will wait until later for that. Will most likely buy drive shafts for that one. Will save 500 bucks going with the non alum set up. Ordered up my stuff from krawl off road. Jason is a great guy to deal with.
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:50 PM   #6
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I would say RK or Metalcloak because both systems are 100% forwards/backwards compatable. Meaning if your pockets arent too deep you can get a fairly decent cheaper set up from them now and upgrade what you want when you want as time goes on. I am partial to RK though, so they have my vote.
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:08 PM   #7
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Rock Krawler is hands down one of the best suspension manufacturing companies out there.

Any kit, i'm not trying to be against you N3MO, is upgradeable.

Don't get sold on their marketing. Their products are outstanding.
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Rock Krawler is hands down one of the best suspension manufacturing companies out there.

Any kit, i'm not trying to be against you N3MO, is upgradeable.

Don't get sold on their marketing. Their products are outstanding.
I don't get why peeps say that.

After the coils everything is pretty much a upgrade.
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:36 PM   #9
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I don't get why peeps say that.

After the coils everything is pretty much a upgrade.
A good point...when I looked at 2.5" lifts I noted that springs and shocks were the common denominators...some folks included sway bar links, some folks a track bar, some folks bump stops or extentions, but there was very little consistency beyond the fact that they all included longer springs...and recommended longer shocks.

It would seem that at 2.5 inches, you're not getting into the full menu of hard parts upgrades like adjustable control arms, new suspension mounting brackets and adapters, ball joints, drive shafts and the like. There's nothing to keep one from putting on a TF 2.5" lift...and then using all Rock Krawler parts from there out if they felt so inclined.
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A good point...when I looked at 2.5" lifts I noted that springs and shocks were the common denominators...some folks included sway bar links, some folks a track bar, some folks bump stops or extentions, but there was very little consistency beyond the fact that they all included longer springs...and recommended longer shocks.

It would seem that at 2.5 inches, you're not getting into the full menu of hard parts upgrades like adjustable control arms, new suspension mounting brackets and adapters, ball joints, drive shafts and the like. There's nothing to keep one from putting on a TF 2.5" lift...and then using all Rock Krawler parts from there out if they felt so inclined.
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:29 AM   #11
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Thanks everyone for your input.... It'll be a little while b4 I have the $$$ to spend on it but when I do I'm doing everything... I'm pretty patient and can wait. Went to uwharrie nc when I first bought the rubicon and let me be one to attest to their abilities.... Hands down ... AWESOME! Went on every trail that they had... Even up one people have flipped on and if you drive smart in one then there is almost nothing that will stop you... Unless there is severe clearance problems.... For that reason I'm researching lifts... Gonna put 35s on it because I feel 37s are a bit overkill for something I drive often... Plus I think when you go crazy and way big then it takes a lot of the fun (picking the careful line) out of wheeling... Traded a nismo 370z on this vehicle and I have to say I really do t miss the z at all.... Quite the opposite I know but hands down the rubi is more fun.
I'll watch Metalcloak real careful and hopefully there will be more people that have Metalcloak lifts respond to this thread for all of our information... As of right now I think I may go with RockKrawler....
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:13 PM   #12
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I just installed the RK 3.5" max on my jku.... It's all that and a bottle of whiskey. Amazing ride quality, on and off road.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:02 AM   #13
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If you've have the patience to save up for the MC system, you won't be dissapointed! I've got the 3.5" GCS, and I love it. It will do exactly what you're looking for, without sacrificing ride quality. It is truley a "game changing" system. As mentioned earlier, there is a really good tech thread on JKO, which I recommend reading if you haven't already (focus on the tech, and not so much the back and forth BS).

I see a lot of people constantly questioning the "new" DuroFlex joint, and how it's not "tried and true"...blah blah blah. I don't know if people are just afraid to try new things, or if they're afraid to admit that something better has come along, and they don't have it. But in either case, I've put close to 15k miles on the suspension, with a few trips to the local OHV park, and there is nothing wrong with the DuroFlex joints. In fact, I'm going to go play at the Rubicon right now, and give those joints hell.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:07 AM   #14
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the RK lifts are pretty much the go to, that being said, the MC stuff looks awesome, and everyone who has installed their stuff, even diehard RK fans, agree that it offers amazing quality. If money were no object, I would go MC. I think if there is any downside to MC, its that for the taller lift they don't offer anything in terms of adjusting roll center (aka draglink flip and trackbar brackets). For that price, i would want a perfect kit. However, their shocks and joints more than make up for that.
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:27 PM   #15
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After driving up from Sacramento to Tahoe, spending about 6 hours on the Rubicon, and then turning around and driving back to Sacramento, the Duroflex joints (or the rest of the MC suspension for that matter) held up real well. So much that, the drive home felt like I was hovering over the road. Pictures to follow. (I'm at the mercy of the "photographers" to email them to me.)

MC did put a drag link flip kit on their "Cloak 3", and ended up taking it off after awhile. I forget the exact reasons, but hopefully they come across this thread and can explain why they didn't do "anything" in regards to roll center. I want to say when they flipped the drag link it was coming into contact with the frame, and restricting the amount of flex out of their system. That, and if I remember correctly, the track bar and drag link are pretty close to parallel, which is why they don't have a bracket to lift it.
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:39 PM   #16
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I had the TF 2.5 and absolutely loved it (and still do) but I just wanted a little more. I went wit the RK 3.5 and actually got over 4". I absolutely love the lift and it drives like a dream on and off road. Highly recommended. Just prepare to spend more money on a driveshaft. I got the JE Reel front and rear and everything is all good. One thing though, the kit says it is a complete bolt on kit. Once I got to the part of installing the rear track bar bracket it requires bolts and welding
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I may be repeating what some others have already said, so I apologize in advance if I do!

All three companies offer a warranty, all three companies are stand-up manufacturers.

We have worked with products from all of them, I currently run the MetalCloak 3.5" Game Changer on my JKU, have been since March. We also have a 2 door JK running a RK 2.5" PRO kit with adjustable uppers and all the bells and whistles added to it.

Price.... Don't be fooled by the dollar amount. Make sure you are comparing apples to apples when it comes to components that are included in a "kit". I use the term loosely, as someone else already mentioned, some "kits" only come with springs and longer swaybar links, while other "kits" may have lower control arms, but do nothing with the uppers. Just make sure when you are comparing prices, that you are also comparing the correct parts within the "kit" or if you have to pay extra for little bits and pieces to complete the system.

When it comes down to it, the MetalCloak suspension system may not seem that expensive anymore, especially when you consider the amount of flex you can get out of it.

In my opinion, the MetalCloak kit performs as advertised. It is a GREAT ride on road, and preforms like a champ off road. Flexes like a beast, especially when combined with their fenders. I drive it every day, take the kids to school, the wife loves driving it. It corners extremely well, being lifted and running 37's, it corners like it's stock height. I have maybe 5k miles or so on this kit, both around town, highway and trail use so far. The suspension travel is predictable on the trail (as well as on the road), the dual rate springs feel awesome and stay seated properly throughout the suspension cycle.

We removed a 6 month old RK PRO lift kit from a customers JKU to install a full MC Game Changer after I took him for a ride in my rig.

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Old 07-25-2012, 07:44 PM   #18
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I sent an email to MetalCloak in regards to the drag link flip kit, and here is what I got back...I was a little bit off.

"Actually, we never put a drag link flip kit on the JK (Cloak 3). We may have mentioned that we looked at doing it, but realized that it would interfere with the uptravel.

What it came down to for the engineer (Jeepineer) was the question... what is more important, travel or the minute change that would come from the Drag Link Flip.

As you can attest to, there is no loss of handling with the suspension so any gain that would have come from the drag link flip would have been miniscule and, frankly, barely noticeable, in our opinion.

Focusing on the relatively new philosophy of 50/50 travel (50% Uptravel and 50% Downtravel) has changed the way our engineers are looking at suspension components and traditional suspension ideas."
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I like the MC product but hate those fenders...
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anyone know about the treaflex 2.5 long arm lift?
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anyone know about the treaflex 2.5 long arm lift?

Yep. I'm running the MC 2.5" lift kit w/6Pak shocks on the Teraflex LCG Prerunner long arms.
Here's a pic of my wife flexing the jeep out at Rausch Creek recently

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Just going to throw this out there. Metal cloak bushings and joints.
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Just going to throw this out there. Metal cloak bushings and joints.
It would be useful to explain the who, what, when, where & how.
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It would be useful to explain the who, what, when, where & how.
The first two are random pictures of how torn the bushings get. I believe the MC joints are still relatively new to the market.
The second was a member of another forum. His consensus was that he was backing up and slid off a ledge and he landed ln a rock.
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MetalCloak 3.5 game changer w/6pac

Just looking for any additional from anyone with this lift? I saw 2012 and some from 2014 so if you had this lift installed around 2013 and used it off road let me know your thoughts
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Just looking for any additional from anyone with this lift? I saw 2012 and some from 2014 so if you had this lift installed around 2013 and used it off road let me know your thoughts
I ran the MC controls arms until I went to long arms. Not sure why the MC bushings above crapped out. I will say that my Teraflex control arm bushings crapped out pretty quickly, too. I still use and recommend the MC stuff. Their technical & customer support is very good.

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