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Old 07-26-2013, 04:13 AM   #1
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Mike Manley, Jeep CEO, is not denying a 2015 "New" Wrangler. But,...

But,...since the reporter in this recent video specifically said "new Wrangler" and didn't say redesigned, next generation, or even refreshed, maybe Jeep's CEO felt that it was safe to agree to the new 2015 Wrangler scenario. Because, possibly in Mr. Manley's mind he's thinking, yes of course, there will be a new Wrangler in 2015, but it'll be in the form of publicly unseen pre-2016/17 prototypes and test mules. Although too, I suppose in reality, there really are "new Wranglers" built almost everyday of 'any' year.

A new generation (generation: my words, not the reporters) 2015 MY would totally blow Wrangler's ten year cycle out of the water, we all know that. I guess there's the possibility too, that the reporter just flat messed up and blurted out the wrong year, and that Mr. Manley was just being polite to not correct him. Or, maybe something 'new', but on a smaller scale, really is going to happen in '15, such as a U.S. Diesel. The video is so vague, yet so intriguing. Time will tell!



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Old 07-26-2013, 08:19 AM   #2
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Safest bet for next gen is a 2017 wrangler released in 2016. I can't see it being this early or 2018...
They are also hoping that the Eco diesel sells well in the grand Cherokee. Only problem with that is that you need to upgrade 3 trims higher and pay an additional $5k for the engine. If they do that with the wrangler, ill pass.

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Old 07-26-2013, 08:28 AM   #3
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There may be a mild refresh, but it was announced in numerous news outlets yesterday that the Wrangler redesign is now postponed until 2018.

Jeep Wrangler replacement delayed, current model to stick around until 2018 - report
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:38 AM   #4
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An article on allpar and a few other top sites stated 2018 as the soonest. And I can believe that with the launch of the diesel in 2016 and it supposedly going into a JK first. It makes a lot of sense to launch it in the JK since the platform is good and they just need to test drivetrain changes, it takes a lot of unknowns out of the test process, and gives the JK a few more years in life cycle. At this point Jeep is making so much money off of the JK, since it has long since paid off it's tooling, that it makes sense to run it a while longer and soak in some more sales, especially since the JK is still selling so well.
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:27 PM   #5
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It would be exceptionally frustrating if they only offered a diesel in the luxobarge class.

Sometimes, people who want diesels like their vehicles simple. Maybe they aren't buying GCs, but in a Wrangler- I could see it selling in Sport trims easily.
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Old 07-26-2013, 04:18 PM   #6
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It would be exceptionally frustrating if they only offered a diesel in the luxobarge class.

Sometimes, people who want diesels like their vehicles simple. Maybe they aren't buying GCs, but in a Wrangler- I could see it selling in Sport trims easily.
Yep, if its anything like the way they're doing it in the Grand Cherokee, you have to take a higher trim package and then its like a $5k option on top of that... If they follow that model, you will probably only be able to get it in Sahara or Rubicon trim.

The Rubicon is awesome, but my Jeep isn't my daily driver and a $45,000 diesel Rubicon would be about 15k outside the limit of my "fun" budget.
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Old 07-26-2013, 04:42 PM   #7
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There may be a mild refresh, but it was announced in numerous news outlets yesterday that the Wrangler redesign is now postponed until 2018.

Jeep Wrangler replacement delayed, current model to stick around until 2018 - report
I've post this article Chrysler to extend production of Avenger, Wrangler, Caravan | The Detroit News yesterday but it was deleted after a few minutes ...
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I've post this article Chrysler to extend production of Avenger, Wrangler, Caravan | The Detroit News yesterday but it was deleted after a few minutes ...
because there were 3 or more exact same posts by different people in 24 hrs, no need to have multiple threads reporting the same story.

I'm not sure if any of the stories really prove anything. These kinds of decisions are strategic and planned not leaked to the internet randomly (in most cases). I could imagine why they would extend it, because they are literally printing money at Jeep right now with the wrangler. They risk changing it and turning that faucet off. No way. The large majority of tooling and R&D are paid off by now and they are making years and years of "icing" now. I think they will have a drivetrain upgrade which will require a lot of interior changes as well as saving weight where they can but the majority of the Wrangler will live on for a few years past this change to make it worth it until they overhaul the whole thing but keep much of the driveline they had tested for the previous 3 years.
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There may be a mild refresh, but it was announced in numerous news outlets yesterday that the Wrangler redesign is now postponed until 2018.

Jeep Wrangler replacement delayed, current model to stick around until 2018 - report
From the article: "Chrysler declined to confirm the report but speculation suggests..."
IMHO this and other recent reports are nothing more than Internet noise.
Now, when Chrysler actually comments I will pay attention.
Otherwise we should all consider the source of information.
Just my opinion, which is also just Internet noise
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If - a big IF based on a speculative article - the current Wrangler stays in production through 2018 (5 more model years for a total of 12); we will hopefully see it offered with an 8 speed auto, and not have to wait for a redesign to get the new tranny.

And the north american diesel dreamers may finally drive their wish come true.

Wrangler sales numbers are ever increasing and Marchionne does seem to be a practical person... why risk record sales with most R&D paid for on a new product?
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From the article: "Chrysler declined to confirm the report but speculation suggests..."
IMHO this and other recent reports are nothing more than Internet noise.
Now, when Chrysler actually comments I will pay attention.
Otherwise we should all consider the source of information.
Just my opinion, which is also just Internet noise
This was reported on Allpar too, which everyone knows is "secretly" chrysler's industry leak mechanism.
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If they release a diesel JK, and you can get one on a sport for a reasonable price, i will probably trade my 2013 on one. If its only available on rubicons or saharas i will keep my 2013 sport for a while, as i have no need nor can i afford a $50k jeep.

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