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Old 04-11-2013, 05:01 PM   #1
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Am getting a 4 door JK in a Week time and am looking for that aggressive off road truck look. 4" lift, 37x12.50R20 or 18 wheels. i wont be going Off road, would i have to regear, or do any other major adjustments, here in NY there are hardly any hills.

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You might wanna pm crittert. Last i heard was he was on 37's running 3.21 gears.

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Am getting a 4 door JK in a Week time and am looking for that aggressive off road truck look. 4" lift, 37x12.50R20 or 18 wheels. i wont be going Off road, would i have to regear, or do any other major adjustments, here in NY there are hardly any hills.
Im from NJ, and Ill tell you some valuable advice. STUDY. Not in a condescending way. From your description I can tell that you haven't studied yet. read about 37s, read about lifts, There are SOOO many options.

I thought Id keep my truck stock, then it wasn't stock anymore, then I thought I wouldn't wheel it, inside a year I drove cross country to MOAB to wheel in the most aggressive terrain in the country.

Once your truck gets a hold of you, you don't know how far it will go. Especially if you have deep pockets. Studying is half the fun. Also, the decisions you make will effect resale and onroad ride.

I have an RK 2.5 X-factor lift, wich will accommodate 37s with flat flares. I think its a good look and will be going to 37s later this year after cutting the flares or replacing them. I think the Rock Krawler lift will help resale vs. a bargin brand.

another good point- make a list of the mods you want and figure out the cost. It is easy to get carried away. Also look into axle upgrades if your going 37s. drive shafts too if your planning to go with a higher lift. It will add up.
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MOAB might be the most wrote about place in 4x4 mags but from what I have been told by many people who wheel all over the nation is that it is no where near the most challenging/ aggressive.


He makes a good point OP you have a lot to think about, or you can just do it and fix stuff as it gives out.
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sooooooooooooo where is the most aggressive wheeling location?
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Im from NJ, and Ill tell you some valuable advice. STUDY. Not in a condescending way. From your description I can tell that you haven't studied yet. read about 37s, read about lifts, There are SOOO many options.

I thought Id keep my truck stock, then it wasn't stock anymore, then I thought I wouldn't wheel it, inside a year I drove cross country to MOAB to wheel in the most aggressive terrain in the country.

Once your truck gets a hold of you, you don't know how far it will go. Especially if you have deep pockets. Studying is half the fun. Also, the decisions you make will effect resale and onroad ride.

I have an RK 2.5 X-factor lift, wich will accommodate 37s with flat flares. I think its a good look and will be going to 37s later this year after cutting the flares or replacing them. I think the Rock Krawler lift will help resale vs. a bargin brand.

another good point- make a list of the mods you want and figure out the cost. It is easy to get carried away. Also look into axle upgrades if your going 37s. drive shafts too if your planning to go with a higher lift. It will add up.
What's this "resale" you speak of? haha

Pie is on the money. Do your research before you spend a dime. Wheels and a lift are among the most expensive and impacting mods you can do. They alter so many aspects of your driving experience that it can either make you love or hate your Jeep.

I'm on Long Island and will be glad to help you out if you have any questions.
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If you want a real “aggressive off road look.” Go long arm, stretch, 1 tons and 42” Rockers. If you want a cookie cutter, catalog JK get 37’s on 20’s.

Seriously though, 4” lift is expensive to run safely and properly. Also 37’s for 18-20” wheels is WAY more expensive than the same tires for 15, 16 or 17” wheels. Plus if you ever do get into this whole Jeep thing and do wheel it you might mess up them shiny 20’s. You can usually run 37’s with 2.5-3” lift and flatties. You may think that most JK’s you see are lifted 6”, trust me JK’s just look big, they are probably within 2.5-3.5” lifts.

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If you want a real “aggressive off road look.” Go long arm, stretch, 1 tons and 42” Rockers. If you want a cookie cutter, catalog JK get 37’s on 20’s.

Seriously though, 4” lift is expensive to run safely and properly. Also 37’s for 18-20” wheels is WAY more expensive than the same tires for 15, 16 or 17” wheels. Plus if you ever do get into this whole Jeep thing and do wheel it you might mess up them shiny 20’s. You can usually run 37’s with 2.5-3” lift and flatties. You may think that most JK’s you see are lifted 6”, trust me JK’s just look big, they are probably within 2.5-3.5” lifts.

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Thats true i think most JK that i see aren't that high probably in the 2.5-3.5
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What's this "resale" you speak of? haha

Pie is on the money. Do your research before you spend a dime. Wheels and a lift are among the most expensive and impacting mods you can do. They alter so many aspects of your driving experience that it can either make you love or hate your Jeep.

I'm on Long Island and will be glad to help you out if you have any questions.
Thanks a lot bro, I need to take a good look at some modded jeeps in person and see what height and tire sizes i'll like , i might probably do 35x12.5R20-18, i need to do somemore online research on height and tire sizes.
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Am getting a 4 door JK in a Week time and am looking for that aggressive off road truck look. 4" lift, 37x12.50R20 or 18 wheels. i wont be going Off road, would i have to regear, or do any other major adjustments, here in NY there are hardly any hills.
I live in NYC (just outside in NJ, but commute to the city all the time) and you will be in for a world of hurt with 3.21s and 37s. NY is a lot hillier than you think. 5th will become completely useless. You will not be able to use it unless you are going DOWNhill. While we don't have mountain passes, we have plenty of hills. Your MPG will probably dip to the 9-11 range. Stick with 33s. 37s on a city vehicle is an insane price to pay, not to mention, since we don't have a big offroad culture here in NY (like Cali, Utah, Colorado, etc) dealers don't play ball and are not "understanding" when problems happen, and with NYC potholes, those 37s will take their toll. Think about it. I was in your shoes. I do wheel every chance I get and drive VERY out of my way to do it (driving to Moab in 2 weeks)...but I also knew that my rig is 99% daily driven. Sticking a long arm and 40s on it would completely destroy the car. I have lived through this experience with sports cars in NY (this is my first jeep.) My sports cars had $5000 suspension setups, were 2" from the ground, cornered faster than electricity and were unstoppable on the track.....however, on the road, I hated them. They were loud, uncomfortable, I was constantly damaging my lips/bumpers from being so low, etc.

The one thing I learned about Jeeping is you MUST MUST MUST MUST be honest with yourself. If you are not, you are going to spend a fortune, on a bunch of mods you will never use, and make the rig barely drivable. You will begin to hate it. As a result, I modified mine accordingly. I have a 2" Teraflex Performance leveling kit. I have 33x12.50x15" wheels/tires and a few other offroad goodies than I use. People on the street love looking at it (I get stopped constantly...wife gets annoyed ) and I actually use it offroad. Think of it as women who wear those 9" stilletos...sure they look good, but they are in agony while they walk with them. For an urban assault vehicle, I think mine fits the bill....and it works offroad.







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Fellas am liking this look, what size tires/rims, lift this jeep might have, am guessing 4"lift 35x12.50R20.

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Thanks a lot bro, I need to take a good look at some modded jeeps in person and see what height and tire sizes i'll like , i might probably do 35x12.5R20-18, i need to do somemore online research on height and tire sizes.
Don't get 20s. Jeeps are the reverse of cars. They look best with minimum rim and maximum tire. If you have a 35" tire on a 15" rim vs an 18" rim, the 15" rim will look "beefier" because you have more tire. Also, the aggressive stance comes from the backspacing. The stock setup makes the Jeep look skinny. Get a set with backspacing in the 3.5 range (mine are 3.35) which will give the rig a FAR more aggressive stance.
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Fellas am liking this look, what size tires/rims, lift this jeep might have, am guessing 4"lift 35x12.50R20.

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3.5 rk lift on 36" toyos on 18" procomps. Might be close to what you are looking for

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3.5 rk lift on 36" toyos on 18" procomps. Might be close to what you are looking for

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I don't know how TX is, but we have MONSTER crosswinds in the NY/NJ area. My JKU with the above mods gets pushed around really badly on some days, I couldn't imagine your rig....short wheelbase, tall, and big tires. Our lanes are also narrower than many areas in the country and I have been pushed almost into another vehicle. Just a thought for the OP.
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I don't know how TX is, but we have MONSTER crosswinds in the NY/NJ area. My JKU with the above mods gets pushed around really badly on some days, I couldn't imagine your rig....short wheelbase, tall, and big tires. Our lanes are also narrower than many areas in the country and I have been pushed almost into another vehicle. Just a thought for the OP.
Actually it is like driving a sailboat in a hurricane. It's manageable but it can get rough
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Actually it is like driving a sailboat in a hurricane. It's manageable but it can get rough
You and I seem to be used to it, but the OP might touch cloth if he is on the highway and suddenly the rig jumps two lanes over. I remember driving home from Maine, and we hit a 20 mile stretch that I actually had to countersteer most of the way to maintain a straight ahead direction.
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You and I seem to be used to it, but the OP might touch cloth if he is on the highway and suddenly the rig jumps two lanes over. I remember driving home from Maine, and we hit a 20 mile stretch that I actually had to countersteer most of the way to maintain a straight ahead direction.
I have done that a few times!
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Do you park on the street? I've seen a number of vehicles sitting on bricks with missing wheels while I was there.

Also, depending on where you work, you may want to make sure you fit in the parking garages after getting the lift and tires. I'm about an inch away from not fitting in most garage down in Atlanta, and my own. I'm also still rubbing when wheeling, and will be adding a 1.25" body lift this weekend, so my mall crawling days may be over.
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Asking people how something handles and getting an answer you can relate to is tough. I used to drive a Chevy Suburban on 44" boggers, so of course I think my jeep drives like a dream. Now there are some people who would be scared to death if they had to get it over 40MPH.

Same reason some folks roll there eyes when someone complains about how horrible the road manners are on a stock JK. Its all about your past experiences with other vehicles.
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Do you park on the street? I've seen a number of vehicles sitting on bricks with missing wheels while I was there.

Also, depending on where you work, you may want to make sure you fit in the parking garages after getting the lift and tires. I'm about an inch away from not fitting in most garage down in Atlanta, and my own. I'm also still rubbing when wheeling, and will be adding a 1.25" body lift this weekend, so my mall crawling days may be over.
The bigger the tire, the easier the wheels are to steal. Can be solved with a set of Gorilla lugs, but it might often cost you a tire in the process. Parking garages is a legit concern. My friend used to have a lifted YJ on 35s, and NYC garages charged him a lot more simply because he was "tall". They are all crooks.
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Asking people how something handles and getting an answer you can relate to is tough. I used to drive a Chevy Suburban on 44" boggers, so of course I think my jeep drives like a dream. Now there are some people who would be scared to death if they had to get it over 40MPH.

Same reason some folks roll there eyes when someone complains about how horrible the road manners are on a stock JK. Its all about your past experiences with other vehicles.
As someone who drove nothing but sports cars, I actually found the road manners of the JKU very good. Handling and steering is predictable, controllable, and not jittery at all. The 50/50 weight distribution makes handing very VERY good (for this type of vehicle). After getting my tire/wheel setup, the handling was even better (wider track and wider tires) and have full confidence taking turns and ramps AT or ABOVE the posted speed limit.
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JKU's do feel a little better than JK's on the road due to the longer wheelbase.

I love my setup now but would be wary of parking it up there.
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In NYC, you would need to drive AT LEAST 100 miles to be able to crawl over a rock like that.
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In NYC, you would need to drive AT LEAST 100 miles to be able to crawl over a rock like that.
Dang I feel for you , I am surrounded by them

Pulled off the road just to play with this one after wheeling

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Hearing about all those cross wind situation is kinda scary, i would have to examine some mooded jeeps in person, i just might do the 3" lift with 35x12.50R18, hopefully i wont have to do any regearing and run into any problems.
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Hearing about all those cross wind situation is kinda scary, i would have to examine some mooded jeeps in person, i just might do the 3" lift with 35x12.50R18, hopefully i wont have to do any regearing and run into any problems.
A 3" lift will require exhaust modification or driveshaft changes. 35" tires are heavy, and an 18" wheel is heavy as well. The weight alone will be felt and it will be quite pronounced, especially from a stop...and in NYC, from a stop is pretty often. Also, with a 35 you'll want to get a rear bumper/tire carrier. Putting a tire that big on the OEM carrier will compromise the tailgate integrity. Ask questions now, before you spend a fortune on things you are going to regret.
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Here mine with RK 2.5????? Lift and 35's on 18's.
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