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Old 07-04-2013, 10:07 AM   #31
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Flares

The flares we are going to switch to are the Nemesis Industries Notorious Flares. We did Hells Revenge with them in Moab, and their Jeep - "Dixie" 6.4 liter hemi wears these. (she also wears huge BFG KM2s)

They also have an optional upgrade skeleton inside.

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Old 07-04-2013, 05:17 PM   #32
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that truck has 5.13 gears and 37s. Mine has 4.10 and 34s
Have you put yours on a dyno?

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Old 07-04-2013, 06:48 PM   #33
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Out of curiosity, are you thinking about those weld in coil overs, like the King / Recon or others?

Recon Xtreme Rear Weld-In Jeep Jk Coil Over Conversion

Or something more "reasonable"? Like a "mid-travel" system? I have seen a few nice mid setups on Tacos, mostly out west it seems.

I've never wheeled in those famous places like Moab or whatever, so I can't imagine what people need for it, but it's clear by all the vids and pics, they want some extreme capability. I just thought the more-extreme coil overs, even some of the longer travel bolt ons, made highway travel exceptionally difficult.
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:30 PM   #34
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Out of curiosity, are you thinking about those weld in coil overs, like the King / Recon or others?

Recon Xtreme Rear Weld-In Jeep Jk Coil Over Conversion

Or something more "reasonable"? Like a "mid-travel" system? I have seen a few nice mid setups on Tacos, mostly out west it seems.

I've never wheeled in those famous places like Moab or whatever, so I can't imagine what people need for it, but it's clear by all the vids and pics, they want some extreme capability. I just thought the more-extreme coil overs, even some of the longer travel bolt ons, made highway travel exceptionally difficult.
Thats a rear set up, and they cut the tub to poke the shocks thru into the cabin. This creates a number of problems, but is the pure coilover solution. because it makes the shocks go directly up and down, no angles add into the equation.

Cutting the body is pushing it for my purposes. I suggested it to some experts and the response I got was..."really? you want to cut the body for this purpose?" The cons out weighed the pros for that kind of invasive install. Road noise would increase, cargo space would decrease. I've come to the conclusion that it just isn't worth it.

There are systems that lean the rear coilovers back in the shock's postion. Thats what im planning for this.

Im not done researching it. This specific issue is why I opened the thread. The rear coilover plan is unclear. Im looking for opinions and suggestions.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:38 AM   #35
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Local guy here just did the Evo lever system for his rears. Very slick setup with unreal flex. Not a bad way to go to save from cutting. Very pricy though. I also saw a really cool design on jk owners of a guy that cut through his tub and welded upper coil over tabs to his rear roll bar. Beautiful setup to run some long ass coil overs. Wish I could remember his handle even though you mentioned not cutting the tub it was pretty minimal. I usually go to jkowners when I'm looking for more advanced tech. I get the Jeep envy thing lol. in some places my Jeep is considered pretty slick, but here its just another jku on 37s (which I'm happy with for now) until i finish my 1 ton plan.
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Hrmm, if you're happy with your rig, I would leave it alone. I would mod it more based on need for the trails for your area, but I wouldn't mod it more based on Jeep envy. At Jeep Beach, there was a rig with independent rear steering that was doing the crab walk on the beach - if I wanted to do that based solely on seeing it once, I'd be selling organs to pay for such things.

I love my Jeep, but at some of the local meetups, it honestly looks stock compared to some of the others. Oh well. It's still a nice Jeep and it gets me where I want to go so I have no desire to mod it outside of my original plan.

Give yourself a couple of months to get over the fact that everyone at Moab gets to play a bit more often than Jeeper's on the east coast. If you still can't stop thinking about upgrading, then do it.
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Old 07-22-2013, 03:29 PM   #37
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Nemesis Flares Unboxing

Here's and unboxing of the new flares we are using for this transformation

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Old 08-25-2013, 07:01 PM   #38
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Transformation Complete. It was a crazy day. I cruised to Rock Krawler in NY state, between 85 and 90 MPH, a little more than 2 hours away. Got there at about 9am and worked ALL DAY.

Here's how she went in...and how she came out.
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So where are the rest of the pictures???
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The next setup I think you should do would be to install Unimog Port Axles-- I know a place that as set for sell for a really good price. They would really give you some nice ground clearance and you could use the built in air-selectable lockers at any speed (i.e Four Hi) instead of just in Four Low. That would be a cool modification with everything else you have if you ask me.
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:20 PM   #41
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Photos take a little time to get into the forum, you can see us upload them in bursts on facebook.
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Photos take a little time to get into the forum, you can see us upload them in bursts on facebook.

how many hours did it take to put all that stuff in? the portal axles would be nice off road-- they would give at least 5 extra inches of ground clearance.
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:30 PM   #43
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WELD RACING Wheels

When you need the lightest wheels available on earth, There is only one place to go. WELD RACING. These are the t58s. If you dont know WELD, they are the absolute tip top of the heap in wheels. Who knows about them? Real racers at the track, where weight is everything. Weight was everything to us on this build and when they told me they could make a 25 lb 17x8.5 I had to have them. Forget that they are the most beautiful wheels i've ever seen, They are at least 3lbs lighter than all the other wheels we looked at. And I think we looked at every brand.

These wheels were the Key to the build. I wanted to go to a 37, and the lightest I could find was the BFG KM2(more on them later). The KM2s still came in at 70lbs. So with the Weld t58, we were barely over 97 lbs. VS. the 34.4 duratrac and ultra wheel crushers they were replacing, at 92.5 lbs. (still a very light tire wheel combo)

Saving 8lbs on the wheel meant that the increase in tire weight was essentially nullified. Made the whole build possible. Going up 3 inches in tire size only losing 5lbs in weight is barely short of a miracle. The supercharger has lost nothing because of the tire size upgrade.
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Are the rims a magnesium alloy or aluminum ???
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Cool... I thought they might be super exotic and go with the magnesium alloys that they use on Lambos... But Aluminum is good. They are very nice rims. Do they have a bead locker option available?
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Nce but $518 each I would be afraid to damage them off road
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Nce but $518 each I would be afraid to damage them off road
Thats why i went with an 8.5" wide rim. that will make the tire protect the wheel, as well as make the 37"KM2 stand up as tall as possible.

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