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Mopar or any cold air intake?!?!

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#1 ·
So I was talking to a buddy of mine and I was telling him about putting a Mopar cold air intake and I hear there's nothing but problems with cold air intakes on the jeep wranglers I have a 2015 hard rock any input or advice please help!
 
#4 ·
Your factory installed air induction system, is designed for your 3.6 engine.
This design includes CFM air flow requirements and absolute micron filtration.

I strongly recommend, that you keep your existing system!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#6 ·
I know that I run the stock air box with an aftermarket filter in it and have no problems. When I was running modified cars I noticed that CAI's would have a tendency to pull water if it was run through heavy rains or roads with standing water on it. My friend runs an XJ and his girl stalled it out crossing a shallow creek in it because water got up by the exposed CAI. This is all opinion, but if your Jeep will mostly see the paved roads then a CAI will serve you well provided you're not pulling hot air from the engine bay. Otherwise you might be better off running another filter in the airbox.

Jeremy
 
#12 ·
Again, why do you want one. If you're looking for better filtration, I read over and over that a Donaldson filter is the best and still allows more air through than a paper filter. It's also re-usable. You can find a Donaldson filter in a Volant setup. Volant makes a really nice kit.

If you don't care so much about filtration, any of the oil-type filters are the best at flowing the most air (next to no filter at all). There's also the dry high-flow air filters. I've had both kinds on different vehicles and never could tell they were there. I did like the fact that I only had to buy one filter. I've never kept a vehicles more than 170k miles and I'm not in a dusty environment, so I was never worried about their lack of filtration. Allowing water in, now that's something to consider if your subject to getting into water that deep.
 
#14 ·
Again, why do you want one. If you're looking for better filtration, I read over and over that a Donaldson filter is the best and still allows more air through than a paper filter. It's also re-usable. You can find a Donaldson filter in a Volant setup. Volant makes a really nice kit. If you don't care so much about filtration, any of the oil-type filters are the best at flowing the most air (next to no filter at all). There's also the dry high-flow air filters. I've had both kinds on different vehicles and never could tell they were there. I did like the fact that I only had to buy one filter. I've never kept a vehicles more than 170k miles and I'm not in a dusty environment, so I was never worried about their lack of filtration. Allowing water in, now that's something to consider if your subject to getting into water that deep.
keep the engine running cooler better airflow better miles per gallon and a little bit more acceleration is what I want
 
#30 · (Edited)
You know ... I'm not going to dispute what Gale Banks is claiming. He's been in business a long time. The question is even if you got 10 good horsepower out of a CAI .. how long do you think you'll feel the difference?

For about two days.. then it becomes another norm.

Then you'll want more horsepower..

You see.. it never ends.

.
 
#34 · (Edited)
FWIW, I have the Mopar CAI on both my JKs and I have NO issues.

Having said that, I didn't do it expecting an improvement in performance or fuel economy, I simply like to hear the engine growl. It reminds me of that characteristic sound of the legendary 4.0L I-6 in my older Jeeps.

:D

Aldo
 
#35 ·
Interesting link to the Banks dyno day above. I bought a Magnaflow dual and a Banks intake a year ago but never ran into that thread before. I bought both components for one reason: sound. I LOVE the Magnaflow sound vs. the stock vacuum cleaner whoosh. Did the exhaust first and kept it about a week before adding the Banks CAI. Again, all for the sound.

And I've never told anyone because I believe that most claimed exhaust/intake hp/tq gains are placebo effect. But I was utterly convinced the thing was faster. Significantly so. Enough, in fact, that it went from below my internal threshold of "fast enough to satisfy" to just barely above it. And in answer to the question above, that has remained completely sufficient for a year now.

I had a 911 Turbo in the garage next to it till a few weeks ago, and now have a 911 GTS, and so this is not my "need for speed" vehicle; but that doesn't change the fact that I have an internal "this is too damn slow" meter. It's not at all a ridiculous meter that expects Hemi 5.7 performance out of a Wrangler (we have one of those in a GC also). It's just a useful butt dyno that is uncomfortable with cars that have below a certain amount of acceleration.

And the '14 2-door 6-speed was below that before I added the intake and exhaust, and it's above it now, and remains there. It hasn't sent me off on an endless "quest for more speed" in the Wrangler. Maybe that's because I'm 50 and I've been down that road a couple of times in sportscars and realized it's better (for me) to just buy a car with the power I need in the first place. And of course, if Jeep had offered a 325hp option for the Wrangler that's exactly what I would have bought. (I'd still have added the exhaust and intake just for the sound.)

So far (knock wood) a year of hard wheeling with more than a few deep-ish water crossings and I haven't had any issues (other than banging up the underside of one of the cans on the Magnaflow a little). Of course, if I were going to be in water as deep as the actual intake I'd most likely be screwed. But that's the case with a stock intake also -- I'd be just as scared to submerge it in water as the Banks. At that point it's kill the motor and hope I can string a cable before the river drags the Jeep away.
 
#40 ·
Interesting link to the Banks dyno day above. I bought a Magnaflow dual and a Banks intake a year ago but never ran into that thread before. I bought both components for one reason: sound. I LOVE the Magnaflow sound vs. the stock vacuum cleaner whoosh. Did the exhaust first and kept it about a week before adding the Banks CAI. Again, all for the sound. And I've never told anyone because I believe that most claimed exhaust/intake hp/tq gains are placebo effect. But I was utterly convinced the thing was faster. Significantly so. Enough, in fact, that it went from below my internal threshold of "fast enough to satisfy" to just barely above it. And in answer to the question above, that has remained completely sufficient for a year now. I had a 911 Turbo in the garage next to it till a few weeks ago, and now have a 911 GTS, and so this is not my "need for speed" vehicle; but that doesn't change the fact that I have an internal "this is too damn slow" meter. It's not at all a ridiculous meter that expects Hemi 5.7 performance out of a Wrangler (we have one of those in a GC also). It's just a useful butt dyno that is uncomfortable with cars that have below a certain amount of acceleration. And the '14 2-door 6-speed was below that before I added the intake and exhaust, and it's above it now, and remains there. It hasn't sent me off on an endless "quest for more speed" in the Wrangler. Maybe that's because I'm 50 and I've been down that road a couple of times in sportscars and realized it's better (for me) to just buy a car with the power I need in the first place. And of course, if Jeep had offered a 325hp option for the Wrangler that's exactly what I would have bought. (I'd still have added the exhaust and intake just for the sound.) So far (knock wood) a year of hard wheeling with more than a few deep-ish water crossings and I haven't had any issues (other than banging up the underside of one of the cans on the Magnaflow a little). Of course, if I were going to be in water as deep as the actual intake I'd most likely be screwed. But that's the case with a stock intake also -- I'd be just as scared to submerge it in water as the Banks. At that point it's kill the motor and hope I can string a cable before the river drags the Jeep away.
Are you running a tuner with your intake and exhaust?
 
#37 ·
LOL, yeah, I guess so. I don't know that I'd be able to feel 10hp in a 4000# vehicle, but the 20-ish hp gain in the above-linked dyno run would be noticeable and that's what I would have guessed mine feels like if I hadn't seen the dyno. So I believe those numbers. But I'm generally a very, very skeptical cynic about hp gains that big from intake/exhaust on modern vehicles. Looks like Jeep just left a lot more on the table than most of the manufacturers do.

And I'm with you, Ohio -- If snorkels were a bolt-on enhancement with no hood-cutting or worse yet, all the gymnastics required with the Rugged Ridge, I'd have one of those instead.
 
#41 ·
Don't know if you're asking seriously or just messing around, but truth is, the two vehicles are so different that it's like comparing an apple and a bucket -- my perceptions of one just don't influence the other.

The Willys feels delightfully strong, robust, willing to rev and throaty. For what it is. If I had that same experience in a sedan, or God forbid, a sportscar, it would be totally unacceptable. But my brain factors in what the vehicle is and resets its filters or something and comes up with the subconscious decision that the Wrangler is a delight to drive, despite how very, very hideous it actually is to drive by any objective measure, and compared to virtually any other vehicle sold in the US in the last 40 years. :)
 
#49 ·
I don't have the link anymore, but yes. He saw something like 5 hp at 5500 rpm. He did several runs with different configurations, stock, with intake only, with exhaust only, and with both. Oddly enough intake+exhaust was only like 3 hp. All gains were at the very top of the power band, where nobody will ever see it. I think it was an AFE setup, but I'm not 100% sure. It was definitely one of the better-regarded brands, not an ebay no-name kit.
 
#47 ·
My DD '13 has had a Mopar CAI and exhaust since Day 1, never an issue. Sounds and looks better than stock, and seems better than my '12 was in terms of power. Should be tuned for more benefit, but have other toys to mod for such silliness.

If you want one, buy one. Just don't expect massive HP and fuel mileage increases.
 
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