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Old 07-15-2011, 11:14 AM   #1
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Most common/needed mods thread.

I'm a member of several automotive forums, and almost all have a thread (often a sticky) that describes all the common mods and why they are needed. I don't see one here, and since I'm an FNG not only to the forum, but to Jeeps in general, I'm clueless. I did a search that turned up a)more threads than I could ever go through and stay employed, and b)no real pattern of what the most common mods are. As I said, I'm new to this, and part of the problem may be that I have no idea what to search for. I also went through the first few pages of threads and really didn't get any idea of what the typical first steps were.

So, what does almost everyone do and why?

I've already got bumpers and steps on the way. I'm getting a '12, so engine mods (if needed) probably won't be available for a while. We won't do a lift until my wife is completely comfortable with the Jeep and feels ready for it to be taller (this will be her DD). What else is out there?

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Good tires are a MUST. Some of the tires the factory puts on SUCK. Lighting is important and if you are going to use the jeep offroad a winch is a good idea. Those are a few things I would start with

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Seatcovers!! Especially with a soft top, you will want them. I really wanted Wet Okole's because they look fantastic and are customizable to your seats, but I couldn't afford them right now. Bought Smittybilt Neoprene Covers and bought the front seats and got the rears free. Already paid for themselves. Left the top down and had a downpour leave the front soaking wet. Next day seat covers were pretty well dry and the actual seats never got wet.
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The reason is most likely because, first nothing is "needed". Secondly there are thousands of possible mods for Wranglers.
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The reason is most likely because, first nothing is "needed". Secondly there are thousands of possible mods for Wranglers.

^ what he said

we would have a very long list
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The reason is most likely because, first nothing is "needed".
I disagree. We all bought our JKs for a purpose. If it doesn't achieve that purpose as delivered it needs mods to get there or we might as well have bought a Civic. Example: My other toy is a Ford Lightning that I roadrace. After two laps (if I'm lucky) the stock brakes are gone. It needed better brakes to fulfil its purpose without a brake failure and my death in a ball of fire in the tire wall. That mod was needed. We got the JK because it's cool and we can take it off road if we want to. In stock trim it doesn't look that cool, but it will probably go anywhere I am capable of taking it. At this point, it needs a better look to fulfil its purpose. In the future, it will possibly need mechanical mods to help it off road, but only time will tell.

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^ what he said

we would have a very long list
There are thousands of mods for every niche vehicle out there. The other forums I frequent are for my Lightning, and I used to be on several Vette and f-body forums because it was needed to stay current in my job at that time. Everyday there was a newb that asked about mods, so we developed the threads.

For the f-body and Vette, the most common first mods are an airbox lid, aftermarket filter, skip shift eliminator, shifter, cat back, and traction aids. For the Lightning, it's air filter kit, 4lb blower pulley, shift kit, tune, and traction aids. Of those mods, there are several, if not dozens, of options within each category, but almost everybody on the respective forum has the mods listed. That's what I'm looking for here: what are the five or six mods that are on almost every vehicle on this forum? Not specific part numbers, just generally what the mods are. Would it be bumpers, winch, 2" lift, tires and gears? Something similar?
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The single biggest weakness IMHO is the stock headlights. Mine were virtually ineffective in the twilight to actually dark part of the night. The stock fog lights did serve a much needed supplement, but that was in "normal" night darkness. I'm in the Pacific NW rural area, and we do have BLACK when the sun goes down, complicated often by rain, drizzle and/or fog.

I don't understand how an otherwise really well-composed vehicle such as the "hood flutter" can be considered a 'normal' feature.

I'm pretty pleased with most of the features of the Wrangler.
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I disagree. We all bought our JKs for a purpose. If it doesn't achieve that purpose as delivered it needs mods to get there or we might as well have bought a Civic. Example: My other toy is a Ford Lightning that I roadrace. After two laps (if I'm lucky) the stock brakes are gone. It needed better brakes to fulfil its purpose without a brake failure and my death in a ball of fire in the tire wall. That mod was needed. We got the JK because it's cool and we can take it off road if we want to. In stock trim it doesn't look that cool, but it will probably go anywhere I am capable of taking it. At this point, it needs a better look to fulfil its purpose. In the future, it will possibly need mechanical mods to help it off road, but only time will tell.
It's all subjective, that's why I said nothing is "needed". the Wrangler is the best production off road vehicle made and it can fulfill that purpose stock.

I've spent well over $6k in mods on my Jeep and trust me, I told my wife that each and every one of them was needed!
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I think the issue is Jeeps cover such a wide variety of owners. Rock crawlers Mudders Mall Crawlers...DD's looking for an agresive stance. It's hard if not impossible to nail down the 5 or 6 most popular mods.
My personal wish list (which does seem quite popular on the forum) is:
Teraflex 2.5" BB lift
33" tires
wheels (black again popular)
front bumper stubby kit
ACE rock rails.
there are 5 what I guess you could say "popular mods" then again, it's what I want out of my jeep. the next 25 posts may disagree.
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It's all subjective, that's why I said nothing is "needed". the Wrangler is the best production off road vehicle made and it can fulfill that purpose stock.

I've spent well over $6k in mods on my Jeep and trust me, I told my wife that each and every one of them was needed!
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How about the most common unneeded mods?
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Its all personal preference. I started with a 4" lift and some 35's then went to bumpers, next will be lighting and a winch. But I wanted it to look better first so I went that route. Others will tell you to add mods like axles, lockers, then lift and tires. In the end its all about how you want to use your Jeep and how deep your pockets are
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How about the most common unneeded mods?
Loud exhaust #2
Tinted lens #3
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Loud exhaust #2
Tinted lens #3
Hey now! How else am I supposed to get triple digit MPG/4000+HP? besides trading for the Peestar?

I like my exhaust, and my lift, and my new spark plugs, and my bumper/lights. 90% of that is unneeded.
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There is no logic or common sense involved with jeeps-

It's a sickness thats governed by individual situations-

Here's my '08 JKUR next to my '06 Nissan Xterra OR-Oct-2008, $18,000 cash, needed for transaction



Now 2011-$11,000 in "mods" and NONE were needed-



And I'm still married, but if I don't mow the lawn,,, the bedroom door gets locked-

I think the "MOD" craze is worse than "Alien Abduction"

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The one necessary and needed mod for every JK is an evap canister skid plate. Followed by adding fog lights if you don't have them already.
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The one necessary and needed mod for every JK is an evap canister skid plate.
Really?
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Really?
If you take it off road, yes. If you whack that thing you're pretty much stuck.
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Really?
JK's are mounted in a vulnerable place. Not in the rear corner behind the tail light like the almighty TJ.
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There is no logic or common sense involved with jeeps-

It's a sickness thats governed by individual situations-

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I could have paid outright for my TJ, instead I financed half of it so I could use the other half for mods. Needed or not, its hella fun shopping for your Jeep lol
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If you take it off road, yes. If you whack that thing you're pretty much stuck.
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JK's are mounted in a vulnerable place. Not in the rear corner behind the tail light like the almighty TJ.
Hmm did not know that. It seemed pretty out of the way when I was messin with my exhaust. Duly noted.
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Addition skips for the Evap and oil pan was my first concern. Not to mention the trans cooler. Then I wanted a winch because I knew the trails I wanted to ride on and a winch comes in handy on them. A winch lead to a new bumper which caused sagging which lead to a lift. A lift made the tires look small so needed new bigger tires. That lead to gears and while I was at it lockers. Rock rails in the works and the mods only lead to more mods. At some point, I think I will have more in mods then I paid for the Jeep. Third of the way there now.
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....then i wanted a winch because i knew the trails i wanted to ride on and a winch comes in handy on them. A winch lead to a new bumper which caused sagging which lead to a lift. A lift made the tires look small so needed new bigger tires. That lead to gears and while i was at it lockers. Rock rails in the works and the mods only lead to more mods. At some point, i think i will have more in mods then i paid for the jeep. Third of the way there now.
Yup, one mod makes another seem required, which needs another, then another... it really is an addiction

I did 2in springs, didnt like them (too stiff) so went for Rubicon springs and shocks, then needed adjustable front track bar and rear bracket to re centre diffs, then needed longer front and rear swaybar links so got quick disconnects for the front. This lifted it up but then the steering damper looked stupid hanging down waiting for a rock so a relocation bracket went in, then our stupid front bumper had to go so an ARB went on which has a gaping hole just waiting to be filled with a winch. Its a sickness..
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How about the most common unneeded mods?
3 inch tera flex lift,,,, did not need it,, but wife loved it when the trail was blocked by a very large tree.

OX locker...... did not need it,,, but wife loved the fact that she did not have to watch me die digging the jeep out of 2 feet of mud.




plus all the other crap i don't need on the jeep, that has saved my ass more than once.
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plus all the other crap i don't need on the jeep, that has saved my ass more than once.
If it saved your ass, you needed it.

Hmm, most common? Can't do just five . . .

-small lift (~2")
-some armor
-33" tires, with new wheels or spacers. Add a regear if you go to 35s.
-superchip or procal if you have an auto transmission. ProCal if you've got a manual and go to 35s.
-mirrors for when doors are off
-tube doors
-bedline grille and/or DIY mesh behind grille.
-hoist if you have a hard top
-lighting
-winch, recovery gear, onboard tools
-CB
-flat flares
-CAI or exhaust ("common" folks, the word is "common," not most useful)
-safari straps

That ought to do it for starters.
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If you take it off road, yes. If you whack that thing you're pretty much stuck.
I used to worry about it while wheelin'. So I called and checked what would happen if if gets damaged. From what I understand, you'll throw a code but still drive home fine.


Biggest bang for your buck INITIAL wheeling mods to me are:

Real recovery points
Fire Extinguisher
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33" tires at a minimum, and the lift/spacers/wheels needed to run those tires.
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The evap canister doesn't have much to do with how your Jeep runs, it's just another attempt and eliminating pollution. You could take it off 100 miles from the nearest telephone pole, throw it in the creek and drive home just fine.

Mods breeding more mods is true for everything. The path may lead a different direction or wind around different obstacles, but mods always breed more mods. That isn't a Jeep specific tendency.

So far it's looking like my path will lead me to bumpers, lights, and mirrors to start with. Maybe a Truetrac in the front just to make it a true four wheel drive instead of a 2 or 3 wheel drive.

The bumpers are the stereotypical Smittybilt tubes, I'll probably throw some KCs on the front and design my own mirrors that work with or without doors.

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