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Old 06-15-2014, 07:37 PM   #1
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Movin' on up.... need advice!

Okay. After spending 8 years in a YJ and 5 years in a TJ, it's time to make the move into a JK. Here's my pickle. I found a 2011 that I absolutely love. Cosmo Blue, 46,000 miles, 3" lift with 34" tires, automatic, and super clean for $27,000.

I also see two others with in a couple hours that have caught my eye. One is also a 2011, Black, 36,000 miles, lift, with maybe 33's, but manual tranny for $25,000. The last is a 2014, Granite Crystal, 0 miles, no lift, stock tires, automatic, for $27,000. (All 3 are Unlimited Sports).

As much as I want the Blue 2011, isn't it a no-brainer to get the 2014 for the same price? I "like" the look of the 2014, but am in love with the 2011 in Cosmo Blue. The black 2011 is fully stocked and I like the fact that it's manual.

Can anybody tell me about their experience with the 2011 3.8L engine? I drive a 4 banger now that has zero power so anything's an upgrade. I have friends that are telling me to go with the 2014 3.6L because of the extra power. Will I notice that much power? I occasionally tow roughly 1,000lbs of rafting and kayaking equipment, but that's about it.

Help!

Thanks in advance!
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Old 06-15-2014, 07:49 PM   #2
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I went from a '98 TJ (4.0 6cyl) to an '08 JK and there wasn't much of a power difference (191 vs 208) but with my '14 3.6 I can definitely notice a power difference @285.

Depends on how much you'd be looking to mod it. The '14 seems like a no brainer for the same price as the older ones but without a lift you'd need to add about $2k-$3k to the cost to account for lift, wheels and tires which the older ones already have.

Personally I'd go with '14 and lift it, but it's your wallet, not mine.

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Old 06-15-2014, 07:55 PM   #3
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You'll want the extra power AND the better MPG of the Pentastar. You can get a new sport with some decent options for 27k.
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I also went from a 98 TJ, 4.0, but to a 2014. Night and day. I can actually pass up hill, so much more power. I'd get the 14 and mod it yourself. Never drove a pre-2012 wrangler but from what I've heard, you probably won't be happy.
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:06 PM   #5
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2014. No doubt.
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:20 PM   #6
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Old 06-15-2014, 11:09 PM   #7
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get a bone stock 2014 and have the pleasure of knowing that you are in a brand new vehicle and nobody has messed with it.

nobody, and I mean nobody! would rather have the 3.8 over the 3.6.

2011 was the one strange year where they had the old engine with the brand new interior and a lot of the electronics. tuners were a pain in the butt for that year.
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I buying cash outright, go with what you like.

If taking a loan you'll find used rates are higher than new rates. Right now you could probably get a very good interest rate on a 2014 close out.
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:01 AM   #9
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Hi

Until fairly recently, I had a 4 banger YJ...

Moving up to the JK... I can't believe how much power I have. On the highway, a hill that I used to have to downshift to 3rd in the YJ (or 4th if I got a really good running start and there was no headwind)... that same hill, on the JK I can leave it in 6th (manual tranny) and it takes it all without any struggle.

It's a 2014... it really is a nice upgrade...

I can't comment on 2011 vs 2014 from direct experience, but from the specs... you're getting a smaller but more powerful and fuel efficient engine... so why not?

I think the only advantage of the others might be that they're partially build, but that means they've been somewhat worn from wheeling too... in your shoes, I'd get the new one for the same price, and then choose how to build it up myself...

Whatever you decide, good luck!

Also, be warned that moving to drive by wire, if you go manual, it's a bit of a pain. There's like a 1 second delay between when you press (or release) the pedal and the computer registers the throttle change. And the clutch is hydraulic linked instead of cable linked...
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Also, be warned that moving to drive by wire, if you go manual, it's a bit of a pain. There's like a 1 second delay between when you press (or release) the pedal and the computer registers the throttle change. And the clutch is hydraulic linked instead of cable linked...
That explains everything ... I just got my 2014 6-speed and it feels funky as hell. I am a manual guy through and through but this one just feels off but I have only about 8 hours driving it so far.
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The 2014 seems like a logical choice. Warranty and your break in equals peace of mind down the road. Older Jeep, even a 2011 may have issues with the build or other things. Build the 2014 as you wish and know it is what you want.
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That explains everything ... I just got my 2014 6-speed and it feels funky as hell. I am a manual guy through and through but this one just feels off but I have only about 8 hours driving it so far.
You do get somewhat used to it over time but... yes, it's weird, and the throttle delay never goes away...
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Thanks for all the feedback! Looks like a 2014 with automatic tranny!
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:59 AM   #14
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Thanks for all the feedback! Looks like a 2014 with automatic tranny!
Get the 3.73 gears if you can... 4.10 would be better but that's a rubicon only option.
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Old 01-10-2015, 03:32 PM   #15
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Thanks again for all of the advice! I Went totally a different direction and did a 2012 in Gecko. A picture below shows some of the changes I've made since it was on the dealership lot...
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