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Old 05-15-2013, 04:53 PM   #31
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Google it. Actually it's called "The tail of the Dragon" in Deals Gap, NC. 318 turns in 11 miles. It's a blast on a bike or sports car.
X2 Used to ride it when I had my Ninja (It's a mere 20 minutes from my house.) - lots of fun, but way too many people at certain times of the year.

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Love you write up and can't get enough of your pics! Gorgeous!!

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Awesome pics. Soooooooo jealous!
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This is freaking awesome! Beautiful photos, HDR?
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NFRs2k, i felt ur pain in CO. i flew to Denver to help my sister move to Vegas. we rented a uhaul, and we also had to tow her Lexus. Like ur jeep w/ 3.21 we had to crawl our way up the mountains. But other than that, the view from CO to UT is breathtaking.
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The next day I really wanted to see picture frame arch, so we went on the trail looking for it. It was not an easy one to find, and we actually got lost.

It rained again, so the mud was epic. I didn't even know Moab had mud.

This is the Jeep in the middle of nowhere. Had no real clue where we were.




Finally after more getting lost and looking, checking coordinates, we realized it was right in front of our noses the whole time, we just didn't notice it since unless you are looking at it at the right angle, it just looks like more rock. Doh.



Hungry, we wanted to go to town to grab some lunch....but I just couldn't take the Jeep's dirt condition any longer, and didn't want the mud to solidify, so off to the powerwashers. The buildup was biblical.





Took almost an hour of powerwashing to blast it all off. Normally I wouldn't care but we were getting our clothes dirty everytime we entered and exited the rig.
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My son is heading there tomorrow for z-days this weekend. He was invited to stay with the great guys from Nismo racing. I'm jealous!
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Thank you for sharing! This is exactly what I have been looking for. I just started a thread about looking for a book about peoples expeditions. I need more!
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:55 PM   #39
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After the arch, we were starving, so we needed to get some food, but we were so far from town, I didn't want to drive in to eat, so I broke out the emergency steaks and settled in for a picnic on the side of the colorado river.



After lunch, we decided to head to Arches national park. Since my friend had never been to Moab, I figured offroad or not, it's something he needs to see. So, on we went. Entering the park, we stopped to check out "the courthouse."

Really a beautiful rock formation.


After that, we decided to make a stop at the balanced rock...pretty cool to see in person.


It's now about 7:30, and the sun sets at 8:18...and we still havent even gotten to the delicate arch. We arrive in the parking lot at about 7:45, pack up whatever we need, and begin the 1.5 mile strenuous hike. We are the only idiots walking in that direction, and everyone else is walking down. It is one hell of a hike, with ankle snapping "steps" everywhere. No biggie. We kept on trucking. Got up there after the sun has already set (but still some light remained) and shot a few pics....



*note the mountains in the background for a later story...*

After shooting and BSing with a bunch of other photographers up there, it was already dark...and I mean dark...I mean pitch black, and we now need to hike 1.5 miles back to the Jeep. We said our goodbye's with the photographers and began walking back. I used my iphone flash as a flashlight, and my friend used his surefire to light up the distance (20 feet).

Things were going ok for about .5 miles then we got "stuck." The direction we were walking in took us towards a sheer cliff, so we knew that was wrong, so we went another way. After 10 minutes of looking we found the path and continued for another .5 miles. At 1 mile or so, we got really lost. I was trying to retrace our steps, but it was too damn dark. The situation has gone from haha funny to pretty serious. After not panicking and thinking, we eventually found our way back. I urge everyone to take this seriously...this is NOT a place you want to be lost in, do not attempt this hike near sunset and if you must, bring proper lighting with you. My stupid mistake could have ended pretty badly. Also make sure you carry a lot of water. It's very dry and the hike is serious. If you are stuck there for the night, you are going to need it.
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WOW! EMERGENCY STEAKS! I want to go hiking with you. And again, your photos are just breath taking.
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^ wow.....that is pretty serious. My uncle (moved to Maricopa, AZ from chicago) told us a story of a couple that hiked into the Grand Canyon before nightfall.....and the search party found their bodies after a week or so. Glad you guys got back ok. Still great reading!!!
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I just saw your jeep on wayalife's Facebook page! I was like, I know who's jeep that is!! Lol
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:09 PM   #44
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...While I was struck by the beauty, you guys have no idea what it's like to drive an undergeared vehicle up slopes like this. 2nd was revving nearly at 5000 rpm and the temps started to climb (although not overheating) and 3rd was too low to sustain forward movement. I was forced to sit in the right lane doing 35 (speedlimit was 65-70) with my hazards on.

33's and 3.21? I feel your pain. It was a trip last summer (in a Jeep Patriot) through the Rockies (to Leadville) than made me decide to get a Wrangler. I had the same experience, except my diffy overheated from going downhill.


Beautiful pics!
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:09 PM   #45
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Great Story! Love the pictures. Thanks for sharing!

Can you do Moab in a stock JK?
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:20 PM   #48
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WOW! EMERGENCY STEAKS! I want to go hiking with you. And again, your photos are just breath taking.
Wait wait wait...you mean to tell me you guys don't have a tow strap, extra d rings, a snatch blocks and emergency steaks in your offroad kits? You peeps are unprepared Im sorry to say.
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:22 PM   #49
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33's and 3.21? I feel your pain. It was a trip last summer (in a Jeep Patriot) through the Rockies (to Leadville) than made me decide to get a Wrangler. I had the same experience, except my diffy overheated from going downhill.


Beautiful pics!
Thats why all the 3.21 threads Im one of the ONLY guys in there trying to tell people not to do "it" and by "it" I mean either buy a Jeep with those gears (new) or upsize tires. It becomes nearly undrivable on hilly terrain, so unless you live in Florida with no hills at all, get the highest from factory or don't upsize your tires until you regear.
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After the buttclenching events from the previous night, we woke up with new vigor and were excited to continue the adventure. Before hitting Moab, I really wanted to stop in Colorado and hit the trails outside Ouray (Imogene, black bear pass, etc) but unfortunately those trails are closed through August or so, but my desire to hit a mountain pass remained...luckily, just outside Moab reside the La Sal Mountains (pictured in the background of the delicate arch photo above) and La Sal Pass takes us all the way to the top of them (almost) at 10,500 feet. So, excited, we set out on our little adventure.

We initially missed the turn and drove too far, and ran into a place called the hole in the rock....



This was originally a diner/truck stop during the times of the uranium craze in the Moab area, but was later turned into a private home of the couple that owned it...they blasted a 5000 square foot home into the rock, and the engineering in there is incredible. Perfect 65-72 degrees year round, fireplace, etc etc etc. I won't give too much away in case you guys ever make it out there, the tour is only $6 and is very interesting.

After the tour, we ventured back towards the La Sal Mountains in search of the pass. Now, the 4WD guidebook I was using recommended I do not run this pass in the wet, but my stupid though process was "this book isn't written for Jeeps, but for everyone, which includes 4wd subarus, X3s, etc...my Jeep will be fine."

So, we found the road, and ventured in...starting at 4000ft or so. I will upload my gopro video of the run later (takes time for Vimeo to decode) but it was quite a doozy.

The pass started off a 4 out of 10, with lots of rocks and shelf road characteristics. I was praying that my tires will hold up and not puncture...those rocks were REALLY sharp. Luckily, I was spared the pain of getting a flat tire on that pass. So, onwards...driving up this steep shelf road, I got an uneasy feeling, like I shouldn't be doing this....but my dumbass kept going. At around 6K feet, we begin to see signs of snow, but it was the remnants of the winter snow, and it was only splotches of it scattered around....no big deal. Now the rain has started to pick up, and the road was getting muddy. The Jeep started dancing when "exiting" from taller rocks, but nothing I was concerned with on this 6K foot shelf road.



Once we crossed 7000 feet, it began to snow. It caught me offguard, but again, I kept going. At about 8000 feet, it was starting to get worse...now there was actual snow on the ground....



It didn't look too bad, and I kept at it, trying to reach the summit. Determined, onwards I went....at 8500 feet, I could no longer see the trail, it was snow covered completely with about 6" of snow. The trail also had a number of splits where I went the wrong way and ended up on a dead end, having to back up back to the split (not fun.) Finally, after another hour or so, I reached a very steep hill at 9200 feet right past a snow melt creek.....after crossing the creek, my front axle immediately dropped...for those that read my Canada winter Jeep thread, getting buried there, I learned that feeling and knew immediately that if I cross this creek Im SOL. It was the off season for this pass and the chance of someone else coming up there would be zero. I got out of the Jeep to survey the situation, stepped right into a freezing cold creek, and saw that the snow on the other side of the creek was 3 feet deep...coupled with a damn near 40 degree slope, I knew it wasn't going to happen. I finally made the call to give it up and turn back. Sadly I don't have photos of this, but I do have my gopro run (up to 8300 feet, then the card filled up (dammit) ) so I'll post that a bit later.

Lesson of the day....take the hint...some things just are meant to be left for another time. I gambled, and didnt lose, but it was a stupid gamble, and not one I would risk again. Fun? Absolutely. Dangerous and stupid? You bet your ass.

We then decided to come down the mountain, and try another pass (geyser pass) which was the easier side of the mountain, so down we went....Jeep looked pretty muddy after this descent.





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Well again, i'm glued to the edge of my seat And your photos, there epic. Some of the best pictures I have ever seen with a Jeep. Just amazing.
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Delicate arch is a pain to get back from in the day time. I have done the hike many times day and night it is amazing. Glad to hear you made it back to the jeep safe.

You got further up La Sal pass than i did, skechy snow on the switch back area. when did you run it? we tried EJS week.

Great trip report!!! Thank you for sharing.
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Delicate arch is a pain to get back from in the day time. I have done the hike many times day and night it is amazing. Glad to hear you made it back to the jeep safe.

You got further up La Sal pass than i did, skechy snow on the switch back area. when did you run it? we tried EJS week.

Great trip report!!! Thank you for sharing.
I ran it last week!!!!
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Geyser pass didn't turn out to be much better. Although the road was MUCH easier and fun, it was still pretty covered in snow.



Not wanting to deal with the La Sal pass conditions, we turned around and headed back to Moab.



It was now getting late, so we decided to grab dinner, and call it an early night, hoping for a more fulfilling and less stressful day tomorrow....

Since our location (cabin) was very close to Gemini Bridges, I decided to swing by and check them out. It was a pretty quick drive there, but the views are amazing. We stumbled across a few other Jeepers there, but this was one of the few times we encountered anyone else on the trail with us.



The bridges themselves (you can't tell it's two of them)



Canyon view


Now the Gemini bridges have a reputation for stupidity. These are basically two "bridges" and there is a gap between them about 5-6 feet long. Many tards try and jump the gap, except there isn't much to catch you on the other side, so numerous people have fallen to their deaths here.

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Well again, i'm glued to the edge of my seat And your photos, there epic. Some of the best pictures I have ever seen with a Jeep. Just amazing.
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Might I be so bold as to recommend the inclusion of a Garmin Foretrex 401 in your kit? There's a reason damn near every green tab on Bragg goes out of pocket for one - extremely handy bit of kit.

Lots of great photos - a bit sad to be living that all vicariously. Too bad you couldn't compare your Duratracs back to back with some MT/Rs. I vacillate when it comes to that particular choice.
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Might I be so bold as to recommend the inclusion of a Garmin Foretrex 401 in your kit? There's a reason damn near every green tab on Bragg goes out of pocket for one - extremely handy bit of kit.

Lots of great photos - a bit sad to be living that all vicariously. Too bad you couldn't compare your Duratracs back to back with some MT/Rs. I vacillate when it comes to that particular choice.
I was actually talking to my buddy about my Duratracs during the trip. Everything I threw at them....2200 miles of highway, mud, snow, sand, rock, they never even flinched. Aired down to 16psi they didn't once give me ANY issues and exuded NOTHING but confidence. I would buy them again in a heartbeat. Are they better than a dedicated M/T? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. However, unless you are doing the narliest wheeling, the Duratracs deliver the goods IMHO.
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great pics!!! do u plan on moving to colorado? i moved from ny 6 years ago. you can pm me if u want any info.
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Loved your write up, and those are some beautiful pics. I know what you mean about driving in the mountains with a vehicle thats not geared for it: i drove to Vail in the early 80’s in an Aries K, and it was brutal! I LOVE Vail: been skiing there a number of times. By any chance, did you have dinner at Red Lion Inn?
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For the rest of the two days, we were going to random trails and checking out some cool sites. Saw a few petroglyphs....




Driving around somewhere I think it was in the Top of the World/Onion Creek area. (forgive me, I forgot which trails were which on some of the photos)















Trail during sunset....place is truly stunning...





The last day we went to check out Fisher towers and the delores river overlook...both were really beautiful places...

Entering delores river overlook area...


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