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Old 12-09-2012, 07:52 AM   #31
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Busted! The first two photos are totally real...taken just down the road from my cabin. The interior photo is a composite of two images...the interior picture taken today and a photo of the Needles District in Canyonlands taken about a week ago. Actually, it's 3 photos...my girlfriend in the mirror was taken the same day in the Needles.
Pretty good photo shop though...but those would be the cleanest windows of all time if it was real

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Very nice Jeep. We go over to Moab every year since 1982 usually in the fall.We either wheel or ride dirt bikes. the Safari has gotten insanely crowded over the years. The trails have gotten much more challenging as well. Beautiful place.

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What brand LED light bar do you have on that bumper?
It's a 30-inch Rigid E-Series. The switch was mounted in the Daystar panel that can be seen in the interior photo between the shifters...great place to mount switches if you don't want to run wires up through the windshield.
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Very nice Jeep. We go over to Moab every year since 1982 usually in the fall.We either wheel or ride dirt bikes. the Safari has gotten insanely crowded over the years. The trails have gotten much more challenging as well. Beautiful place.
Yes..insane is a good word to describe the Safari anymore...but the vendor display at the arena is usually a blast. I stay off the trails at that time unless I'm out with Search and Rescue. We bring down one of the state highway patrol helicopters and a LOT of extra law enforcement (canine teams, etc) during the Safari. The problems are not usually with Safari participants but with other visitors who like to down a few beers and hit the trail. It's especially fun when the Safari coincides with Spring Break.

One reason many of the trails have gotten more challenging is that a lot of inexperienced people will spin their tires at obstacles rather than pick a better line and crawl over them...but then, Mother Nature has washed out quite a few also. For instance, I used to be able to do the Poison Spider Trail in 2WD all the way to The Waterfall...now 4WD is required a couple of miles earlier not far from the trailhead.

I've lived here since March of 1974. Back then, Moab was a sleepy little mining town. I've seen Jeeping evolve from simply a way to get to incredible and remote backcountry locations into a gonzo adventure sport where conquering the rocks is more important than the destination. For me, it is still all about the destination. If there is a bypass to an obstacle, I take it.
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Just thought I'd add an interior photo.
Awesome ! What mm FL did you use for this shot. Very cool idea.
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Awesome ! What mm FL did you use for this shot. Very cool idea.
Canon's 14mm rectilinear lens on a 5D3.
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Any idea how the KM2s you put on compare to the stock tires in terms of gas mileage and noise or say vs. an AT tire such as a 33" Duratrac?
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nope...but I'd bet there isn't a whole lotta difference. It's been over 2 months since I've driven the jeep...but I plan to break it out soon.
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...complete with the red accents!

I bought an original 2003 Rubicon when they were released. I just sold it (with only 23K miles on it) and bought the 2013. I was one of those purists who called the JKs "Foofoo jeeps". I had license plate frames made for my girlfriend's 2008 JK that say "Sally's Mean Green Foofoo Machine."

Well...now I'm kinda likin' the power windows and doors, auto AC, fancy interior, curvacious exterior, quiet ride, etc., etc. I haven't had a chance to get out on any trails with it yet, but I don't expect to be disappointed.

However...I wish I still had a CJ.

Took these photos on the way home this afternoon.
Nice captures of a slick-looking rig! Great area to be making your living as a shooter too!
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Newest addition...took less than 10 minutes to install this afternoon...no drilling.
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Newest addition...took less than 10 minutes to install this afternoon...no drilling.
Sweet. Why am I thirsty and hungry now. Lol
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Newest addition...took less than 10 minutes to install this afternoon...no drilling.
Now that's High Class Wheelin'! 8)
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Wow, that is great, my wife would love that. I have do everything I can to help her love the Jeep. Where did you find that or is it custom?
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Wow, that is great, my wife would love that. I have do everything I can to help her love the Jeep. Where did you find that or is it custom?

It's a 2002 Spottswoode Cabernet that's been in my cellar for 7 years...I'm sure it would make your wife very happy.

Oh...ummm...or were you referring to the table? It's an Outback JK Trailgater. I ordered it Tuesday from Rebel Off-Road, one of the WF vendors, and received it yesterday via FedEx.
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So I'm finally getting around to installing some of the audio gear that has been sitting around for the last couple of months...thought I would post a few pix of the sub install in the stock enclosure.

At this time, I'm just replacing the dash and sound bar speakers with Polks, and installing a Polk MM840D sub that will be driven by a 500-watt @2 ohm JBL amplifier. Depending on how it sounds, I may end up adding a signal processor and another amp to drive the dash/soundbar speakers.

I'm well aware that the audiophile solution to the Jeep sound system would be to replace the head unit, amp, wiring, etc. But I want to keep the head unit with the UConnect and all the steering wheel controls. So I will be content with a non-audiophile solution...but should have substantially better sound when the project is completed. I won't be sitting down with a glass of wine and doing critical listening in the Jeep. That is reserved for the 5-figure sound system in the cabin complete with 30-year-old, 135-lb Polk speakers capable of reproducing 16Hz organ pedals with stunning realism.

The MM840D is tailor-made for the stock JK sub enclosure, both in dimensions and box volume. However, the mounting holes do not line up, which required the fabrication of an adapter. I could not think of any way to just drill new holes in the stock housing and have the sub be securely mounted. So I made an adapter out of 1/2 inch plywood. Six holes had to be drilled in the adapter to mount it to the housing, and another eight holes for mounting the sub to the adapter. You could also buy a pre-made 1/2-inch spacer and drill it. (The sub fits without the adapter...but as I said, there is no way to securely mount it).

The enclosure has been lined with Dynamat and loosely filled with Acousti-fill. See photos.

Photo 1: Just the adapter
Photo 2: Dynamatted enclosure
Photo 3: Adapter installed
Photo 4: Acousti-filled

The back of the adapter was dynamatted and it was installed with the stock screws. After it was installed, I drilled the holes where the sub-mounting screws will go through the plastic (the holes were already in the adapter). The sub will be mounted with deck screws into the plywood and through the plastic of the stock housing. It will be bombproof.

Another problem that had to be solved was how to protect the sub. The optional Polk grill is a wagon wheel design that offers virtually no protection and also requires the sub to be spaced out substantially from the stock housing because of the grill's larger diameter. I settled on a metal grill made for Rockford-Fosgate speakers that will provide complete protection. Some tiny screws will mount the grill to the material filling the Polk's mounting bracket...might decide to put a few spots of glue on it too.

So the hardest parts of the sub mount are now finished. I just have to wire and mount the sub, then install the amp. I will splice into the sub wires near the rear passenger door for high-level amp input...and then just have to run a heavy-gauge hot wire to the battery and ground the amp. The amp has a signal-sensing circuit so I do not need to run a remote turn-on wire. Will post pix some time in the next few days of the finished install.
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Anxious to hear what you think of what you hear. Have the same desire to keep the stock head unit, but give a bit more oomph on the output end on a reasonable budget. If you have the detail on the amp, that would be great too.

As for your cabin system, I loved those Polks back when. Locked into a set of Axiom Audio out of Canada these days, and love 'em.
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The sub is installed...now I just have to hook up the amp, a JBL GTO-501EZ mono amp. The sub is wired for 2 ohm resistance. The grill is a Rockford Fosgate P2P3G-8 woofer grille. I attached it with low-profile velcro and a couple of small screws. I was a little worried that the grill might hit the Trailgater table, but it does not as you can see. With the amp, sub, grill, subwoofer cable, amp install kit, dynamat, and acousti-fill, I've only got about $325 in it.
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The sub/amp combo is hooked up. Holy crap...it is very hard-hitting, tight bass. Sounds good. The stock woofer is laughable in comparison. The Polk sub has VERY good low frequency extension. I've had to turn down the bass in the head unit to minus 4 and the gain on the amp is only at about 2 on a scale of 1-10.

I may even try wiring the sub at 8 ohms and see what happens. There's certainly no lack of power. But I think I'll wait until I have the doors and top off since I may have to crank the bass up a little under those conditions...but at this point, it sounds like it could shatter the windows in the vehicle next to me.

Some have said they had rattles when putting an aftermarket sub in the stock enclosure. I do not. I think the dynamat may have solved that problem.

To be honest, I'm really surprised at how good it sounds. Now I just need to find the time to replace the soundbar and dash speakers.
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The sub/amp combo is hooked up. Holy crap...it is very hard-hitting, tight bass. Sounds good. The stock woofer is laughable in comparison. The Polk sub has VERY good low frequency extension. I've had to turn down the bass in the head unit to minus 4 and the gain on the amp is only at about 2 on a scale of 1-10.

I may even try wiring the sub at 8 ohms and see what happens. There's certainly no lack of power. But I think I'll wait until I have the doors and top off since I may have to crank the bass up a little under those conditions...but at this point, it sounds like it could shatter the windows in the vehicle next to me.

Some have said they had rattles when putting an aftermarket sub in the stock enclosure. I do not. I think the dynamat may have solved that problem.

To be honest, I'm really surprised at how good it sounds. Now I just need to find the time to replace the soundbar and dash speakers.
Very cool to hear. Ordered the same sub. Do you think I could get away with less amp power? If so, any specific one you would look at Brand/Model?
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Very cool to hear. Ordered the same sub. Do you think I could get away with less amp power? If so, any specific one you would look at Brand/Model?

You can definitely get by with less amp power...the JBL is probably too much amp for the Polk. It's pushing 500 watts RMS at 2 ohms....and the Polk is rated at 180 RMS/500 peak...which is one reason why I may rewire the sub to 8 ohms where it will probably be closer to 200 watts. You don't really need the dual voice coil model of the MM840. The SVC model would give you 4 ohm impedance. Something around 150-200 watts RMS would probably be plenty for the Polk sub.

There are 2 channels going to the stock sub...one for each voice coil. Both of those are hooked into the JBL amp and there is just one 12-ga. output wire going to the sub...no real need for that second voice coil. It just gives you more choices in wiring for a different impedance. I didn't even have to cut the wires going to the stock sub...just spliced into them.

I don't remember what other amps I was looking at when I bought the JBL. I would highly recommend an amp with an auto-turn-on circuit so you don't have to run a remote turn on wire....and one that accepts high level inputs so you just have to splice into the existing sub wires. It probably took me less than an hour to hook up the amp. Most of the time was spent making the adapter and prepping the stock sub enclosure.
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I had a friend build a custom floor/deck to cover the area where the rear seat would normally be when folded. I was amazed at what I was able to fit underneath.

If I ever want to re-install the 91-pound rear seat, I just have to remove 5 bolts and the one-piece floor/deck will pull right out. The recovery gear, jump starter, Viair 450P compressor and other things that aren't accessed very often are stored under the frig. I have so much storage now that the Jeep is starting to feel like a minivan.


I also installed the absolutely totally AWESOME Tuffy #275 Security Deck and the Bestop 2-piece soft doors last week. I'll post some photos of those two items (and comments) later this week.
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Oh I think I like that alot!
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The sub is installed...now I just have to hook up the amp, a JBL GTO-501EZ mono amp. The sub is wired for 2 ohm resistance. The grill is a Rockford Fosgate P2P3G-8 woofer grille. I attached it with low-profile velcro and a couple of small screws. I was a little worried that the grill might hit the Trailgater table, but it does not as you can see. With the amp, sub, grill, subwoofer cable, amp install kit, dynamat, and acousti-fill, I've only got about $325 in it.
Excellent write up. Forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean when you say the sub is 'wired for 2ohm resistance'. Crutchfield says it's a 4 ohm speaker...
Thanks in advance for the info. I've already changed out the tweeters and dash / soundbar speakers and it sounds great, except for a lack of bass at speed with the top down / doors off...
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Excellent write up. Forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean when you say the sub is 'wired for 2ohm resistance'. Crutchfield says it's a 4 ohm speaker...
Thanks in advance for the info. I've already changed out the tweeters and dash / soundbar speakers and it sounds great, except for a lack of bass at speed with the top down / doors off...
The single voice coil MM840 is 4 ohm. Each of the 2 voice coils in the MM840D is 4 ohm. TheMM840D can be wired for either a 2 ohm or 8 ohm resistance depending on how the wires are attached to the sub. The single voice coil MM840 can only be wired one way. If I had it to do over, I probably would buy the single voice coil model. I think re-wiring it for 8 ohm impedance may make it a better match for the JBL amp.
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thanks. So I assume the documentation that comes with the sub mentions how to wire for 2,4 or 8?
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thanks. So I assume the documentation that comes with the sub mentions how to wire for 2,4 or 8?
Yes...the SVC model is 4 ohm only. Dual can be wired 2 or 8.
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Hey Moab. I know you said that you were going going to do a full write up on the back of the jeep. Are you still planning on that?
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Do you have any other pics showing the trek armor seat covers on your front seats? That's the coyote color, right?
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What is your front bumper you have?
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Bumpers are Poison Spyder...powdercoated to match the stock Rubicon wheels. Black bumpers are so...ummm...black. I don't like black wheels either...but that's just personal preference.

Lowerumble: I will try to post photos of the interior back later this week. The Tuffy #275 deck is fantastic! Highly recommended...especially since the top or front can be removed so easily if necessary. GREAT design.

Pup: Will also take a few more pix of the seat covers. Yes they are TrekArmor Coyotes. Photo below of right after installation....factory wrinkles still included.

I will also post some photos of the Bestop 2-piece soft doors and a few comments. I like them...but they have their drawbacks.
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