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Old 10-23-2011, 07:04 PM   #1
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Near nightmare: check the ring!

SO after an hour perusing my local Auto Zone for a decent deal, I wind up buying six quarts of Casstrol Syntec. Deal is, buy 5 qts, a filter too, get the whole shebang for $30 plus tax, minus a rebate- whatever. The extra quart is about $9. I pick up a new large open oil pan too.

I drive back to my house, and proceed with the oil change. 13mm wrench, check- and out she comes full force.


The stock filter is on like it has abandonment issues, so I break out the same filter wrench I used for the HD and get it off.

No worries- screw on the new filter, fill it up- and fire it up.

I hear this "Psssshhhhh!"- then nothing.Eh, this Jeep makes lots of noices. Smiling like a champ, knopwing my baby now has some fresh, good ol' synthetic erl.

I go to spray the excess oil off of the front axle- and notice oil EVERYWHERE.

I call my tech bud thinking maybe I've busted a hose- and his first words rang true:

"The gasket from the factory oil filter never came off." I look at the spent one.. ...and sure enough, there's no filter ring.

In 24 years of ol changes I've been lucky. Never had it happen. Well, today I was lucky too- all I lost was about $30 of Syntec. Had to buy another "deal".

Here's the culprit:



Lesson learned. Champ to chump in seconds. I hope the next guy (or girl) reading this checks the filter to be sure the gasket is off. I've never had it happen before in lots and lots of oil changes.

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Old 10-23-2011, 07:45 PM   #2
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I'm glad everything worked out for you. Atleast you noticed before any engine damage could occur.

I've been in your shoes before, on my old '82 Dodge. Blew out all five quarts. Luckily, like you, I caught it before any engine damage occured.

So it can happen toa nyone at any time. When it happened to me, it was probably the 20th oil cahnge I had done on that truck.

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Old 10-23-2011, 08:07 PM   #3
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Same thing happened to me last year changing the oil in my duramax. It sucks but good thing you caught it before taking off.
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:09 PM   #4
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changed my oil for the first time today on my jk got lucky dont know why but just happened to look down in the engine bay with might light saw the gasket ring sitting there took it off couldnt belive it was still on there never had seen that before.
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:42 PM   #5
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Did my first oil change on mine last week. I always match up the new and old filters just to make sure they're the same. I noticed the old one was missing the gasket. I found it in the dain pan later. First time its ever happened to me.
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Old 10-23-2011, 10:07 PM   #6
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Good post. This is very important. I never thought about it much until it happened to my boss. I check every time now. And then double check. And then let it run and look under the Jeep again.
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:15 AM   #7
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Since you're always supposed to run a film of oil around the NEW filter/gasket, with your finger---you will always know, of its presence--right ??

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Since you're always supposed to run a film of oil around the NEW filter/gasket, with your finger---you will always know, of its presence--right ??

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He had the new gasket on. The problem was that the old one was also on. He doubled them up on accident.
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Since you're always supposed to run a film of oil around the NEW filter/gasket, with your finger---you will always know, of its presence--right ??

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thought i was the only one that did that lol
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:55 AM   #10
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That happened to me - once - in about 1985 on an old Plymouth Horizon TC3... (watta POS!) Anyway, the memory stuck of cleaning up all that flippin oil stayed with me and it's not happened again!!!
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Since you're always supposed to run a film of oil around the NEW filter/gasket, with your finger---you will always know, of its presence--right ??

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He had the new gasket on. The problem was that the old one was also on. He doubled them up on accident.
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thought i was the only one that did that lol
SOP. That film of oil is to make the gasket "slide" when you hand tighten it and to make sure it comes off when you remove the filter.
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:13 AM   #12
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As kool mentioned, I did (and always) oil the new one. Apparently, that's a step skipped with the OEM.
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:41 AM   #13
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To be honest, I open up the oil filter box while still in Auto Zone. I also look at spark plugs for broken porcelins while being rung-up. Here's something else that is NOT uncommon. When you open the oil container and there's a plastic ring remaining from the cap--that ring can fall inside the oil-fill opening while you are pouring.
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:52 AM   #14
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Jondalar, do you read Jean Auel???
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:59 AM   #15
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Yes, all of her Cave Bear books are so well written. What a sight it must have been for Jondalar to see Aila riding the lion. A Jeep would have done them a lot of good!

Just to stay on subject. The pal that lost that oil container plastic ring wrote a complaint to the company and was sent a check for $150.00 to have a shop remove it.

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