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Old 08-15-2012, 06:33 PM   #1
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Need advice!

Hello everyone. I'm new to the forum. This is my first post. I've been doing a lot of reading on the forums. But sometimes it's hard to get answers to your questions. I have a few questions before making a purchase of a JK. I want to purchase a JKU sport or Sahara.

What are the pros and cons of a manual and auto transmission? I want to add a nice exhaust once I purchase a JK. I find it fun to have a manual with a nice exhaust. But I'm not sure how the wranglers drive on either transmission. Would be nice to get some input.

Is it true that if you put bigger tires and lift, that you have to change the drive shaft?

Is it worth spending the extra few thousand for a Sahara? Would it be better to get a sport with more options or a Sahara with less options?

What changes are there on the 2013 models compared to the 2012 models?

I appreciate the help. I'm sure these questions may have been previously answered but I can't find the answers. I look forward to joining the Jeep family.

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Old 08-15-2012, 07:34 PM   #2
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It's mostly depends on what you'll be using your new rig for. If you're commuting and doing mostly roads with some occasional easy offroading the Sahara may be for you. It's a bit more fancy with a few more creature comforts and painted fenders.
If you plan to offroad it often, save the money from the Sahara package and put it toward a Rubicon. If you want to build up your own offroad monster get the Sport and mod it up with the money u saved from the Sahara.
I, for monitary reasons bought the X model (equivilent to the Sport) but wish I had sucked it up and just bought a Rubi. But it's been fun doing a slow build.
As for auto vs manual, the few threads I've seen, it goes back and forth, but most agree that on the JK the auto is better than the manual. I like the automatic.
You would at some point need to change drive shafts, tracbars, probably LCA's if you go over 3" of lift.
The tires won't affect the shafts, but you may need to regear depending on the size tires. If you have stock 3.73 gearing you'd probably be fine at a 33" tire and losing some power at a 35". Over 35" you'll need to upgrade that front D30 diff to turn those big heavy 37" meats.
The possibilities are endless as will be opinions. Good luck.

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Old 08-15-2012, 07:46 PM   #3
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Depends. I have the 2012 JKU manual. It is my DD but I also go offroad. I have a bunch of options. Go with the max tow package. That gave me heavier springs and lower gearing. Bad thing about Sarahs are the fenders. They are painted to match the body. Great for mall crawling but who wants to scratch that up off road. Auto v manual is personal pref. I like to have controll over the engine plus I downshift to save on break pads (JKUs are heavy).

Here is what Ive found. Get a "package" like a Rubi and you are set BUT you are stuck with stock parts. The fun of a jeep is deciding your pref for lockers, armor, rails etc. Just my opinion.

Good luck. Have fun and welcome to the forum!
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Welcome to the Forum. There is a 2013 Wrangler information thread at the top of the this JK Forum, listing the changes over a 2012, and new colors. There does not seem to be any significant mechanical changes. Also, I like my stick shift, (5 Jeeps, all manuals), but as you will hear, it depends on how your Wrangler will be driven. I could see an automatic being better is certain situations.
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What's the difference between the 3.21 gears and the 3.73s? Do u get more pull?
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:14 PM   #6
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What's the difference between the 3.21 gears and the 3.73s? Do u get more pull?
More torque and more power. If you go to bigger tires, for example.. let's say from stock to 34s you'll need the heavier gearing.
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If i were to put 34 or 35" tires on with my 3.73 gears and 3.8L engine. Overdrive would be non existent. Never opt for the 3.21 gears. Mileage will be better but your low end torque will be less. get the tow pkg with 3.73 or (numerically) up gears.
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So 3.73 it is. I know there are several options out there on lifts, rims and tires. I would like to put 35" tires and a 2.5-3.0 lift. On average, how much do you think I good setup would cost for rims/tires and life? I'm getting excited out purchasing a jeep.
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So 3.73 it is. I know there are several options out there on lifts, rims and tires. I would like to put 35" tires and a 2.5-3.0 lift. On average, how much do you think I good setup would cost for rims/tires and life? I'm getting excited out purchasing a jeep.
Wow the prices will be all over the map depending on what you get. I would recommend staying away from Skyjacker. They are the cheapest but more for mall crawlers. They tend to sag after a bit I've heard. Take a look at teraflex and Old Man emu. Or go to quadratec.com and you'll see some price comparisons. For wheels and tires I'd consider dropping to 15 inch rims. You'll save both on weight and tire costs. Hope this is helping.
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i have a Sahara and I dig the look. Features are nice and I'll be honest mine is loaded to the gills. I think it is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over-priced for what it is and the quality......although I do love the hell out of my Jeep. And in my opinion....a manual transmission is the ONLY transmission for a Jeep.
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Just bought a 13 Sahara. My first automatic jeep. I feel like I sold my soul and I get a bunch of crap from a few of my buddies. But I drove 6 hours up and down the coast this weekend and didn't have to shift!!!!!!!!
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Wow the prices will be all over the map depending on what you get. I would recommend staying away from Skyjacker. They are the cheapest but more for mall crawlers. They tend to sag after a bit I've heard. Take a look at teraflex and Old Man emu. Or go to quadratec.com and you'll see some price comparisons. For wheels and tires I'd consider dropping to 15 inch rims. You'll save both on weight and tire costs. Hope this is helping.
Don't have the springs, but have been very happy with the Skyjacker Hydro 7000 shocks and steering stabilizer. I'm not a mall crawler or a rock crawler, but for general offroading they've been great and also have been very good for daily driving, not being too stiff. I think most of SJ's products are geared more towards the model TJ years, and haven't been widely accepted by the JK era because there are so many great products and companies specifically for JKs.
And, hard to go wrong with Teraflex.
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Don't have the springs, but have been very happy with the Skyjacker Hydro 7000 shocks and steering stabilizer. I'm not a mall crawler or a rock crawler, but for general offroading they've been great and also have been very good for daily driving, not being too stiff. I think most of SJ's products are geared more towards the model TJ years, and haven't been widely accepted by the JK era because there are so many great products and companies specifically for JKs.
And, hard to go wrong with Teraflex.


Skyjacker shocks were very popular in the TJ crowd. I ran em for years and loved them.

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