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Old 08-30-2010, 09:41 PM   #1
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Need help with choosing a model

Hi, my wife and I are thinking of buying a Jeep Wrangler. We are in Canada, so the only available models are Sport, Sahara, and Rubicon. In terms of off road capability - where (what kind of trails) are the limitations of the cheapest Sport model (may be with a limited slip rear differential as an added option)? From reading on the Internet it seems to me that the Rubicon is designed for more serious riding than we intend to do (fire roads, unmaintained or poorly maintained rural roads, may be a 4x4 trail on a vacation in Utah). Would a Sport be able to navigate roads that are ridden in 4x4 pick up trucks? Thanks!

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Your off road use is very similar to what I intend to do so I did not see the point of a Rubicon but wanted the nice stuff on the Sahara. I'm happy with it and it works fine in the AZ desert roads I drive on. I would think that a sport with the upgrade package and limited slip should work well for you.

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Old 08-30-2010, 10:54 PM   #3
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sahara edition is my choice
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:56 PM   #4
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i have one it's great I lifted it made it into a rock crawler and it goes ANYWHERE!! it has the best options and is jeeps best edition because it's builtbfor rough conditions
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:09 AM   #5
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Sahara is more the "street styled" version, Rubi was designed to give folks a "head start" with a few of the most common mods people do to make their jeeps more capable, and sport is the "blank canvas" base model.

The base model Sport without any mods is a more capable vehicle off road than any 4X4 truck on the market. If a 4X4 truck with light mods can handle the terrain you're lookng at, then a completely stock sport will handle it easily I went from a lifted silverado running 35's to a stock JK Sport, and the difference was ridiculous.

The only issue you will have in the situation you are describing is the stock tires. I've put holes in two of my street queen stock tires already. The stock Rubi tires are much better, but the difference in price to get tires isn't enough in my opinion by itself to warrant a Rubi. Base Sport with the tires upgraded to a good A/T or M/T tire, even in stock size, will suit your needs with no problems.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:37 AM   #6
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There's one other reason for the purchase of the RUBICON, even if you don't plan on using all the extras, that is

If you think you'll be selling within 5/7 years for an upgrade, or another jeep and that is

Resale value is 15/20% higher for the Rubi VS any other jeep of the same year !!

I doubt that Canada would make any difference in that !!

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Old 08-31-2010, 10:11 AM   #7
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Yea, but they cost 15%-20% higher to begin with.....
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:16 AM   #8
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Not if you know how to shop and then, if you are financing it--


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Yea, but they cost 15%-20% higher to begin with.....
You can make some money !!

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Old 08-31-2010, 10:20 AM   #9
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I have a 2010 Sport and love it. Its more capable then you will probably ever need it for esp if you get some better tires. Its like buying a motocycle a 600cc is more than enough, in fact most wont EVER come close to using a 600 to its max potential but they still buy a 1000cc because its a 1000cc. same with the Rubi, great Jeep VERY capapble but really when will most of us need a front and rear locker, sway bar disco. etc..... Most of us will never wheel our DD that hard
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I did a lot of research before I bought my wrangler, and for light off-road user ( weekend desert camping) I decided to get the sahara unlimited.
It lacks a bit of power , but much quite on urban roads extra 2 doors for ur friends/camping cargo and very good off-road ability

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You can make some money !!

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LOL. I agree. I looked at Rubicons, but I couldn't get them to budge on price. 2% below invoice was all I could get them too.

The Sport on the other hand.....Let's just I will never be close to upside down. haha
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Sport with upgraded tires will be more than enough for your needs IMO..

Jeep seriously needs to make the Rubi wheels/tires an easy and fair priced standard option on the Sport. I see so many people wanting to upgrade wheels/tires, but not deal with selecting and buying new tires after delivery and then needing to sell the standard ones. Some dealers will swap them, but at a non competitive price. Some dealers initially say they can't or make it a pricey PITA to swap wheels/tires upon delivery
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And for the record, I would have loooooved to have a Rubicon, but I just didn't need it at all for the places I go. I don't off-road for fun. I go off-road for fishing holes, and hunting spots, and rarely need 4wd, much less a Rubicon.
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A fully loaded Rubio goes for 35k plus. sorry wayyyy to much for me. Give me a Sport for 22k or so. I can add an ARB airlocker for 900 new tires for 900 to 1000. And I can go MANY MANY places! And I am still 10,000 less than a Rubi loaded
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I'd put a Rubi to use if I'd gotten one, but I wanted RHD more than I wanted the options, and I'm comfortable enough in the garage to add my own upgrades.

There's nothing wrong with the base model and it will easily handle the off roading situations that most Jeepers will put it in
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If you can only afford the sport make sure you get the limited slip otherwise your going to wish you did, if it is not an option for the sport then bite the bullet just a little and spring for the Sahara.
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I agree aelwero. most will never use it to its true capabilty because either they lack the skills or they just dont go on the trails that require it.
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A fully loaded Rubio goes for 35k plus. sorry wayyyy to much for me. Give me a Sport for 22k or so. I can add an ARB airlocker for 900 new tires for 900 to 1000. And I can go MANY MANY places! And I am still 10,000 less than a Rubi loaded
Agreed, the Rubicon I wanted was right at $35K. That is lot. Ended up out the door with my Wrangler Unlimited SPORT with 3.73's, limited Slip, Tow package, Power windows/locks, freedom top and the 17" wheels and tires, 18 miles on the ODO for under 23K. That is a huge difference.

3 to 5K and I could justify it, but 12K? Not so much.

And testing her out on day 1

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LOL. I agree. I looked at Rubicons, but I couldn't get them to budge on price. 2% below invoice was all I could get them too.

The Sport on the other hand.....Let's just I will never be close to upside down. haha
2% below invoice is good.....
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t.j.k that is HUGE! 12k is nothing to sneeze at. And for what really? I am no expert but would most of you agree that you would prefer an air locker rather than electric lockers like the RUbi has?
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t.j.k that is HUGE! 12k is nothing to sneeze at. And for what really? I am no expert but would most of you agree that you would prefer an air locker rather than electric lockers like the RUbi has?
absolutely

TJK... watch them tires... I'm running on a plugged rear with a plugged spare

them stocks are so thin that my 6 year old actually got a reamer into the spare when I was plugging it!
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I have only had one plug. Oh well, I am ready to start the modding anyway and these tires are history!

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