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Old 01-07-2013, 12:38 PM   #1
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Need mod guidance!!

I've had my 2012 2-door Wrangler Sport for about 5 months and I'm finally about to be able to start my mods. Before I get anything done, though, I just wanna make sure I'm doing things the "right" way. It's completely stock right now.

I'm looking at doing 35" tires on 18" rims. Would a 3" lift provide good enough clearance? I was originally gonna do a 4", but decided that might be a bit much. If it's what I need, though, I'm all for it. I'm also doing nerf-steps (sides steps, step bars; not sure what they're called exactly) and the front XRC armor bumper. Is there a specific winch weight I should get? I'm currently looking at a 8,000lb.

I plan on eventually getting skid plates, but I gotta be able to afford them first. Until then, gotta stay away from the rocks, I suppose Haha. I'm also planning on getting a rear bumper to "match" the front bumper.

I want to give my Jeep some extra running noise. Is there a suggested way to do this? I'm looking at putting a FlowMaster on but I'm not sure that'll give me the sound I want. I don't want an obnoxious "truck" noise, just something that produces a sound. I feel like I'm driving a Prius; it's so quiet.

Also, with those wheels/tires/lift, what would my intake clearance be? I don't want to find out the hard way how to flood my engine.

Sorry about all the questions! I'm desperate and don't know any fellow Jeepers to ask. ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE A GREAT HELP!!!

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You might want to break your thread up- or reply by mentioning your first priority. I summed up- but each of your questions could be a long post/thread all on its own. Also use the "search this forum" tool. Most of your questions have already been broached and there is a ton of info. here.
Can't help you on the exhaust or the intake clearance.
What is your gear ratio? Manny or auto? If you add all that weight and the large tires it could affect your performance if you have 3.21s.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/3-2...st-209000.html

3" is plenty for 35s. Anything taller and you could be facing driveshaft issues. (One could argue you could have issues on a 3" lift). Remember to check any lift for actual height on a 2 door- my 3" lift is 3 1/2" on my 2 door Sport.
I'd suggest looing for a 9000 LB. winch just to be safe.
And you'll get flamed for 18" wheels. So I'll be polite and hopefully people will leave do the same- if you're actually planning on going off-road 18s are a questionable choice. You'll beat the crap out of them on your first run- and you'll pay more for the privelidge. Consider 17s or less. 15s are popular if you want a "bigger tire look" but its all a matter of personal preference/opinion.
(Oh- and I would consider under-armor to be a high priority. I lifted right out the gate and hit the trail all ready to rumble. Wait until your hit your first rock on your shiny new JK- you'll want skid plates sooner than you think).
Good luck and have fun! Welcome to the addiction.

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Agreed, if you want it done right then don’t run 18” wheels. I suggest 15’s or 16’s. The rubber alone for 18’s will cost as much, or more, than a set of 15 or 16” wheels AND tires.

Also, stay with 2.5” lift. Anything 3” or more, on a 2 door, will required things like drive shafts and control arms etc…Depending on budget I would suggest Rock Krawler 2.5” Max flex or Stock Mod and 15 or 16” wheels with 35x12.50R15 or 315/75R16 tires.

I wheel rocks and just have the stock skid plates. No need to avoid rock crawling, just know where to point your tires.

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IMO, to build a very capable off-roader, here's your order of priorities:

2.5" Lift -> 16 or 17" wheels/tires -> bumpers/sliders/armor/skids -> winch/recovery gear -> electrical system (sPOD) -> auxiliary lights.

good luck, have fun, stay safe!
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Well I would say it's a good thing I asked! Thanks!

It's an automatic. How would I know my gear ratio?
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Well I would say it's a good thing I asked! Thanks!

It's an automatic. How would I know my gear ratio?
Do you still have the window sticker stashed away somewhere? If not, there is a Jeep website that allows you to enter your VIN and pull a build sheet for your specific vehicle.

You definitely should find out your gear ratio before doing anything.
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Well I would say it's a good thing I asked! Thanks!

It's an automatic. How would I know my gear ratio?
Check your build sheet/sticker from your window when purchased. You'll either have 3.21s or 3.73s. You can order a build sheet from Jeep by registering and contacting them. However the owner log-in doesn't appear to be working at the moment.
My Jeep: Official Jeep Owners website - Warranty, Vehicle Specs, Service Contracts, Financing, Dealers
Maybe someone has a better link?...
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18" wheels are fine for "most" off roading situations. A case can be made that in some instances more sidewall can be better, but if you like the looks of 18's, go for it. Here's my 35's on 18" wheels..

Flame away. I'm a big boy and can take it
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I'm sure I have the window sticker somewhere, but I have no idea where. I'll have to find it. What exactly does the gear ratio tell me?

I like the 35s on 18s. I've seen it set up that way on other Jeeps and I just like the way it looks. I want to keep practicality in mind, though. I don't want to end up having to buy new wheels the first time I do anything serious because I went more for aesthetics than function.
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18" wheels are fine for "most" off roading situations. A case can be made that in some instances more sidewall can be better, but if you like the looks of 18's, go for it. Here's my 35's on 18" wheels..

Flame away. I'm a big boy and can take it

Nice! No flaming from me. I think on a 35" tire 18s still give you enough rubber for the road so to speak. Like anything else- all a matter of personal preference.
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I like the 35s on 18s. I've seen it set up that way on other Jeeps and I just like the way it looks. I want to keep practicality in mind, though. I don't want to end up having to buy new wheels the first time I do anything serious because I went more for aesthetics than function.
I wheel mine with no problems. I don't get super crazy, and try to avoid situations where I might end up with body damage. I don't think my wheel size has ever been a limiting factor in the trails I run...
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I'm sure I have the window sticker somewhere, but I have no idea where. I'll have to find it. What exactly does the gear ratio tell me?

I like the 35s on 18s. I've seen it set up that way on other Jeeps and I just like the way it looks. I want to keep practicality in mind, though. I don't want to end up having to buy new wheels the first time I do anything serious because I went more for aesthetics than function.
I rock-rashed a new wheel on my very first trail. (Just the rim/bead- make sure to look for wheels that aren't flat faced). I paid $100/piece- and figured I'd beat them up at some point-so I didn't panic. But that's partly why others mention a smaller wheel size. I agree 18s look good- but you'll have more exposed wheel and less rubber- and you'll probably pay more. But like Whetstone says they're fine for a lot of off-roading. Just depends on your needs and pocketbook.
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Okay. I'll just keep looking around. I won't be able to afford it all for probably another two months or so, so I have time to browse. Just trying to get it planned out before I walk in the door to get it done. I'm looking at not-cheap wheels, so it's probably a better idea to get smaller (cheaper) ones. Thank you, guys.
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18" wheels are fine for "most" off roading situations. A case can be made that in some instances more sidewall can be better, but if you like the looks of 18's, go for it. Here's my 35's on 18" wheels..

Flame away. I'm a big boy and can take it
not saying it looks all that bad just that rubber for 18's or 20's is far more expensive for 17's on down. However if I had 18's, they'd be shot to $hit. AZ trails are unforgiving on things like body panels, wheels, undercarriages...

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I myself have a 3.5" rough country lift running on 35" tires and 18" rims. But then again i only use it for hitting the sand dunes at the island!
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I myself have a 3.5" rough country lift running on 35" tires and 18" rims. But then again i only use it for hitting the sand dunes at the island!
Nice setup, if I may ask what wheels are those?
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IMO, to build a very capable off-roader, here's your order of priorities:

2.5" Lift -> 16 or 17" wheels/tires -> bumpers/sliders/armor/skids -> winch/recovery gear -> electrical system (sPOD) -> auxiliary lights.

good luck, have fun, stay safe!
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I myself have a 3.5" rough country lift running on 35" tires and 18" rims. But then again i only use it for hitting the sand dunes at the island!
Chrome too! Nice.

I went on my first trail / rock climbing run this weekend and scuffed up 3 of my 2013 Rubicon wheels. I die a little inside every time I think about it since I wanted to sell them. Ah well...
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You forgot stickers.
LOL, damnit, you're right! I've read that every new sticker is +5hp and +1.3mpg!
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Nice setup, if I may ask what wheels are those?
The wheels are "Moto Metal" and Nitto mud tires i love them

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