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Old 10-01-2012, 01:37 PM   #1
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Need Winch Advice (Critera Listed In Thread)

I'm a noob when it comes to winches. In all reality I'll probably only use it a few times a year. None the less, when I need it..I NEED it as I don't often have others with me.

That being said, please help me choose a winch (2013 Rubi):

1) Dependability (When I need it, I need it to work)
2) Frequency/Use: 5 to 10 Times a Year
3) Price: $400-$1200
4) Remote
5) Synthetic
6) I'm scared of China..prefer USA

Not sure what other criteria factors in to it.

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I would check your surroundings of where you go and and see what is average distance to a hook up point. Such as trees near the road, average distance and then figure out length of cable and or straps and feet needed. Next I would consider pulling force in pounds. Me, I would consider 8000lb. As far as cable for winch, I would keep it short, not to long, as over time, it will most likely start binding and get stretched. Real expensive to replace I would assume. And some real good advice is find a local Jeep club and see what they say.

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I am a Warn guy, have had three over the last 30 years and never a problem with them. Had a 6,000 pounder on my CJ5, an 8,000 pounder on my TJ wrangler. When i sold the other jeeps i included the winches with the sale price. I currently have a Warn 9.5 CTI with cable on my JKUR and it was around $1200.00 i believe. Made in the USA. Warn does sale some 5 or 6 hundred dollar winches to compete with the other cheaper winches made in China.
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Warn M8000 or 9.5, hawse fairleed, snatch block, syn line. Don't think you need a wireless remote. Nice thing about the Warn's is that they are reliable and, if necessary, you can get parts years later. You'll want recovery straps and d-rings, it all adds up.
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I have a Warn M8000 on my Jeep I have only used it a few time just got it in August this year. I also have the same winch on my 02 Chevy truck and have used it thousands of times. I just changed my cable over to synthetic rope now I have it on both winches. Warn winches are made in USA. They have always been good to me and have always worked every time I have no reason to change. Most of my wheeling buddies use them also. There are some other good winches out there for me it's all about being able to get parts in 5-10 or 15 years Warn has been around forever and always will be. Get yourself a short strap for hooking your winch to a tree 10-15 feet long. This is my opinion I'm sure there will be others. Stay away from the cheap one's remember this is your ticket home.
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I have a Warn 9500 xp. I like the steel cable. I have had no problems at all. I don't think you would need to go above 9,500 for your use.
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:15 PM   #9
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I had the Warn 8000i on my TJ and currently have the Warn powerplant HD. It's rated at 12,000, and has a built in compressor, that has exceeded my expectations. I would say that any Warn winch at 8000 + capacity is probably a safe and reliable.

I have no problems recommending either of the one's I've had.
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Engo. Inexpensive, made in China, but out worked the Warn in the winch shootout. Let me know when Warn lowers it's outrageous prices.

I have a Recon. It is 10,500LB, synthetice line, waterproof, and came with 2 controllers (one wireless and one wired). Works everytime I wanted it to and was under $500.

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I've got a warn x8000i. Wouldn't buy anything but warn.
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Warn has been the top dog for a long time and is a great winch.

BUT

Engo which is pretty inexpensive actually beat Warn out in testing a while back. It was the only winch that was still working after the testing was done by one of the 4X4 magazine. There are vendors in the vendor section of the forums that advertise this winch and have great prices on them.

Not saying you shouldn't get a Warn, they are great but way over priced. Just saying there is an alternative that seems to be doing quiet well for itself. If I have to get another winch in the future, I will probably get an ENGO myself
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I just bought a Warn 9500XP-S for my 2013 JKUR , it was not cheap by no means , But one of the Best 9500lb made and fastest line speed under load. The last think I want is my JK stuck cause a cheap China winch let me down, Like stated above by mcgee10, "It's your ticket home" .
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:52 PM   #17
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E auto grilles on eBay if you search jk bumper with winch comes with bumper that has got goo reviews lately and a 9500lb winch for I believe $650 or less
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I recommend getting a snatch block regardless of which winch you decide to go with. It'll double the pulling power of the winch you get, or allow you to pull from various angles if straight ahead is not the best option. Best of luck with your decision
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Massive Multi-Winch Shootout - Four Wheeler Magazine Better read the facts on the winch shoot out. Looks like the Engo stalled at 12,000 pounds and the Warn stalled at 16,000 pounds which puts the Warn pulling 4,000 pounds more that the Engo to start with. Sure the Warn would not work after the 16,000 pound pull but the Engo did not get there to start with. The Op can read the facts and form his own opinion but Warn did win in this shoot out according to the judges.
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The Warn did win best overall because of it's speed and it made it to 16,000lbs but then too it quit working after pulling past it's 9500 lb stated limit. The overall award really didn't count if they still worked or not which was sad because it should have had more weight in the overall score. The 9000lb ENGO was slower and didn't pull as much over it's weight but it still worked after the stall. So if you are looking at reliability, it out paced all but one other winch. Plus, do you really want a 9K winch which as a 9K cable on it pulling too much over the cables max? One of the biggest danger in winching is the cable snapping. Very dangerous.

The ENGO won best value in the group. You really can't say it didn't get there just because a 9K winch didn't pull as much as a 9.5K winch. Both pulled over their limit and the Warn pulled a lot but still quit working afterwards, maybe it should add a stall before 16K. I would rather a 9K winch stall at 12K but still work then one that will go to 16K and not. But that was just one test so who really knows, but I would take either on my Jeep, but if your looking at value, one was $330 and one was $1485
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I have a Superwinch on my ATV and it is very nice. I'll be putting either a Superwinch or a Warn on my 2013 JKU Sahara when it comes in.

When I installed the Superwinch on my ATV, the control switch was an exact duplicate of the factory Warn part. They probably share some of the same suppliers in China.

Both manufacturers offer limited lifetime warranties on the upper range products.
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Warn M8000 on my JKS. Old school, Made in USA with sourced parts I've heard.
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Damn, you all are gonna have me convinced I need to get a winch.
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johnpmcelroy "Damn, you all are gonna have me convinced I need to get a winch."


I personally feel a winch is a better first mod than new tires or a lift. Just be sure you learn how to use it properly. They are a great tool, but are also inherently dangerous.

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Damn, you all are gonna have me convinced I need to get a winch.
It's one of those rather have it and not need it then not have it and need it things
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Damn, you all are gonna have me convinced I need to get a winch.
If you ever go wheeling alone your going to need a winch or you'll be sleeping in that jeep or maybe worse walking.
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The winch that I currently have is a hand winch and three 30foot straps. Did not have it when I slid sideways into a snow bank. I never felt so screwed in my whole life. I probabley could have gotten out if I had disengaged the sway bar, but did not think of it. I've made it a habit to use the sway bar more.
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I have a Superwinch on my ATV and it is very nice. I'll be putting either a Superwinch or a Warn on my 2013 JKU Sahara when it comes in.

When I installed the Superwinch on my ATV, the control switch was an exact duplicate of the factory Warn part. They probably share some of the same suppliers in China.

Both manufacturers offer limited lifetime warranties on the upper range products.
A few weeks ago I had 3 jeep tied to mine trying to get it off a ledge that I had goten hung up on. Two Warn winches and one Superlift. Guess wich one had the drum bend on it.
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But that was just one test so who really knows, but I would take either on my Jeep, but if your looking at value, one was $330 and one was $1485
You can buy 3 additional Engos at that price difference, or in my case I'd get ACE Rails, Dually D2's, and Safari Straps to go with the Engo Winch, and still be under $1485. Wow, now that's value!
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Ya wanna know something, you might want to go with a real heavy duty winch. Reason being, you might want to climb a tree. Ha, get it. Oh that is so retarded.

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