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Old 01-04-2013, 08:00 PM   #1
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I am thinking of going with the nemesis aluminum skids. I have a 2013 2dr so I know I will be waiting awhile but that's ok.
I want to know your thoughts on aluminum vs steel. I know that it will be pricey but I think the weight difference could be worth it.
So what are your thoughts.

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After bashing up the factory gas tank skid on my first outing and looking at the oil pan carnage on another 2012, I am definitely going to order a set of skids that covers the gas tank and the oil pan. There are a number of threads here and around other forums about steel vs. aluminum. I won't rehash all of those posts, but I will throw up the reasoning behind my choice. I want to build a daily driver that I can take on longer trips (think expedition light) while still running trails with my friends on the weekend. I don't plant to bomb through KOH in my rig though. So, I did a lot of reading, emailed, and called a few companies, and I narrowed it down to two choices.

Nemesis -
Full aluminum system with a gas tank skid -100 lbs - $1750 retail - durability shown in testing vid

Synergy/PolyPerformance -
HD steel with gas tank skid - 200+ lbs - $1450 - kick @$$ durability

For the build I have in mind and the way I plan to use my Jeep I think the Nemesis system should fit the bill. If you are going to slide over mile after mile of rocks every weekend, I think most people will recommend a set of steel skids.

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You have to be honest with yourself about how you are going to use your jeep. I went with aluminum skids and regret it. But I put my jeep threw hell and yes its fixen to run the KOH corse the week before the race. I will be swaping over to steal some time soon, but for most folks aluminum works great.
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Thank you for your response and insight. I wheel some fairly rough trails each weekend, that I have time. Living in Colorado I have a ton of choices.

I go to Moab at least once a season and we run BFE and several hard trails out there. I am not a fan of the skinny pedal style of wheeling so I do not abuse my jeep.
I carry a lot of tools and spare parts which get very heavy, about 250lbs. So my thought is save weight where I can.
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You have to be honest with yourself about how you are going to use your jeep. I went with aluminum skids and regret it. But I put my jeep threw hell and yes its fixen to run the KOH corse the week before the race. I will be swaping over to steal some time soon, but for most folks aluminum works great.
What has happened to your skids that you regret?
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What has happened to your skids that you regret?
Where in east Texas are you from?
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They are geting beat to hell from being slamed against rocks and such.
When dragging them against rocks with sharp edges they tend to dig in sometimes.

I live close to Nacogdoches.
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I have the river raider aluminum skids. The build quality and hardware details are not good, but the system does the minimum of what I bought it for.
Like many, my needs have changed a bit so if I were to do it again, i would still use an their aluminum oilpan skid (tucked up there, the real concern for me was errant branches and the odd pointy rock). The trans pan and tcase skids should be steel, I have had to remove, repair n reinstall the aluminum ones a few times after rock hits.
I have seen online where guys have added a welded steel plate section to the stock skids, that is what I would do next time. The added aluminum does nothing the stock doesn't. (except adding coverage at the gap at the front).
With RROR, 3 (i think) of the bolts feed into standard supplied washers/nut that you put into existing holes in the frame rails. Other makers may do the same. The problem is that it is extremely difficult to get a wrench on the inside the frame rails. I did not have time to special order tabbed nuts, so I had a welder put tabs on and I retapped them. Now I don't need a wrench to spin them on and off.
So if possible, whichever system you use, call the manufacturer and find out the size/method of the frame rail bolts/nut and look into ordering some tabbed nuts. And have some anti-sieze on hand for the install.
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I have the river raider aluminum skids. The build quality and hardware details are not good, but the system does the minimum of what I bought it for.
Like many, my needs have changed a bit so if I were to do it again, i would still use an their aluminum oilpan skid (tucked up there, the real concern for me was errant branches and the odd pointy rock). The trans pan and tcase skids should be steel, I have had to remove, repair n reinstall the aluminum ones a few times after rock hits.
I have seen online where guys have added a welded steel plate section to the stock skids, that is what I would do next time. The added aluminum does nothing the stock doesn't. (except adding coverage at the gap at the front).
With RROR, 3 (i think) of the bolts feed into standard supplied washers/nut that you put into existing holes in the frame rails. Other makers may do the same. The problem is that it is extremely difficult to get a wrench on the inside the frame rails. I did not have time to special order tabbed nuts, so I had a welder put tabs on and I retapped them. Now I don't need a wrench to spin them on and off.
So if possible, whichever system you use, call the manufacturer and find out the size/method of the frame rail bolts/nut and look into ordering some tabbed nuts. And have some anti-sieze on hand for the install.
Very good information, thanks.
I spoke with Nemesis and they will be developing a thin skin to cover in certain areas. Not real sure how that's going to work.
I am fairly certain I will go with Nemesis, I like the fact that they are a local company who invited me to come in and see the entire operation. Very impressive set up.
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Thank you for your response and insight. I wheel some fairly rough trails each weekend, that I have time. Living in Colorado I have a ton of choices.

I go to Moab at least once a season and we run BFE and several hard trails out there. I am not a fan of the skinny pedal style of wheeling so I do not abuse my jeep.
I carry a lot of tools and spare parts which get very heavy, about 250lbs. So my thought is save weight where I can.
250lbs is like adding a passenger to the ride. It's not too bad.

Personally, the Nemesis skids look pretty well designed and well reenforced regardless of the material. Granted, I don't have a set of my own to take out and beat up so I'm just commenting on the design.

For those with aluminum skids, did they puncture or something that made you regret getting them? I saw that some had to take apart and reinstall, anything other stories like that?
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Mine are dented in and sharp rocks will "dig in" causing them to be not as slick. They also have a lot of groves in them. But keep in mind mine have been threw hell and have worked great, they are just not going to last forever for me.

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