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Old 03-06-2012, 12:18 PM   #31
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Maybe someone can can experiment. Take the cover off of the stock filter housing, block or cover up the air inlet to it, and see how it performs opened up like that. Having not looked inside, if the stock filter is held in place by the cover itself, then try same with an after market filter that fits directly into the intake tube in the filter box and just leave it all open. Based on the pic. in this, other than fanciful claims of proprietary specialised 'membrane' material used in their filters, the whole idea appears to be nothing more than exposing the filter and intake 'zall:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/air...ml#post2072593
It will perform worse. The s2000 has a similar intake setup. Removing the cover adds a nice noise, but heatsoaks the intake air, and thus, a DROP in power.

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Old 03-06-2012, 12:20 PM   #32
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They all call themselves cold air intakes, and in most cases they are not. This unit does have a higher flowing filter however, but you could save money by just buying a drop in with a higher CFM rating. You may get an 8 HP gain, but I think you'd have to add a more free flowing exhaust to go with it. At least they've toned down the HP gains a bit in their claims. I remember some claiming 25 HP gains.
Agreed. Many manufacturers claim big horsepower gains, but fail to mention all the supporting mods, such as headers, exhaust, etc.

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Old 03-06-2012, 12:25 PM   #33
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As well as all the particles that will contribute to early engine wear, but who cares? You got an extra 10 HP right?
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:34 PM   #34
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It will perform worse. The s2000 has a similar intake setup. Removing the cover adds a nice noise, but heatsoaks the intake air, and thus, a DROP in power.
Because it's not cold air right? So how do these other intakes make the air cold?
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:42 PM   #35
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CAI are considered voodoo on WF, so I wont even attempt to discuss any further.
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:58 PM   #36
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If not voodoo, then how else can you explain the air suddenly becoming cold? And why don't I gain 10 HP in the winter?
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Its only voodoo if there are claims backed by no demonstrable...oh yeah, right.
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If not voodoo, then how else can you explain the air suddenly becoming cold? And why don't I gain 10 HP in the winter?
LMAO.....leave it to you.
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I read this and decided what the hell. I got the Dremel and removed the top section of the airbox to allow better airflow. I drove down the street and definitly notice a slight kick. Than I figured what the hell. I had the the dremel out and my cutting torch so I cut the exhaust off and running no muffler. Again, more airflow, less restriction. Man does this thing make some noise now !! And the power, holy heck, I bet I added 25 horsepower for sure.
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Because it's not cold air right? So how do these other intakes make the air cold?
I don't know what your laughing is supposed to mean, but cold air intakes DO NOT have to be mounted low down to deliver "cold air." Furthermore, cold air intakes (a term not used by serious gearheads in over a decade) does not mean an "AIR COOLING INTAKE." As long as the filter is positioned in an area that that gets a decent amount of outside air (near the front grill for instance) then the outcome can be increased power. Furthermore, the piping of OEM intake systems is often crude. If you can smooth out the air delivery, then again, you can increase efficiency of the air being delivered, and thus, more power.
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:36 PM   #41
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As well as all the particles that will contribute to early engine wear, but who cares? You got an extra 10 HP right?
Particles that make it past a good quality filter will cause no damage to your motor. If 300,000 mile, supercharged 11.0.1 compression motors have no problems with a K&N, then I assure you, neither will the Wrangler.
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:38 PM   #42
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If not voodoo, then how else can you explain the air suddenly becoming cold? And why don't I gain 10 HP in the winter?
You fail again. Have you ever dynoed a car? You will absolutely gain power with the SAME PARTS, if the outside air is 34F vs 85F. You do gain power in the winter. Don't believe me? Dyno your Jeep in august, and then do it again in January.
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I read this and decided what the hell. I got the Dremel and removed the top section of the airbox to allow better airflow. I drove down the street and definitly notice a slight kick. Than I figured what the hell. I had the the dremel out and my cutting torch so I cut the exhaust off and running no muffler. Again, more airflow, less restriction. Man does this thing make some noise now !! And the power, holy heck, I bet I added 25 horsepower for sure.
A more freeflow exhaust might be something you want on a Honda, but not on a Wrangler. The backpressure is what gives you your low end torque. Removing backpressure will give you a higher peak output (more power) but it will near redline, while you may LOSE power down low, where most Jeepers want it.
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run your intake into the cab.. turn on A/C
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run your intake into the cab.. turn on A/C
Now you might be onto something here....
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I have read enough, this subject has been beat to death numerous times.

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