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Old 02-17-2013, 03:11 PM   #1
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Hey Jeepers. Love your site here. Well as the title says i'm new. I traded in my 2012 Acura MDX Tech for a 2012 Unlimited Sahara in flame red (soft top) with a long list of options from the factory (no leather seats though).

I'm loving it so far as it's more to my character. I'm going to use this thread as my official build thread too. Before i begin building though I have just a few questions that i couldn't get definitive answers to searching here and other sites.

First of i've added just a few visual touches (the crap)
1. Jeep front triangle bra
2. Jeep interior flame red trim pieces
3. Jeep fuel door

Here goes now:
1. I'm going to do a 2.5 AEV lift kit from Jeep Soft Tops, Jeep Parts, Jeep Accessories & Custom Jeep Conversions - FORTEC4x4 - Your Custom Jeep Parts Source for Jeep Lift Kits & Jeep Wrangler Parts or get it locally from them really. Should I add the bilstein Dual Steering stabilizers as well or is that not needed yet?

2. I'm on the verge of buying WORX beast 18 x 9, +18mm offset rims. can't get back spacing info. Based on that bit of information is that a good size and offset.

3. Relating to question 2. My first tire choice would be 305/70/18 (35") dick cepek fc ii. How much would this tire size stick out from the sides of the fenders? I really don't like the look of it sticking out too much. Flush or a little like 1/2 inch or something close to that is bearable. Do you guys recommend another tire size like say 285/75/18 or some other tire size that would be close to 35" or 35" but not bulge out too much from the fender? 33" with this lift will look too small or odd?

4. If it's not the tire and a matter of the rim size and offset i can always look at other rims. What would be the best combination rim and tire for a 18" wheel to not have it all out of the fenders.

That's it for wheels.
1. Do i need an AEV procal to correct for those wheels or is that something that can be done at the dealership?

2. Any other things i need to look out for with this initial upgrade process?

On my short list of soon to come upgrades:
1. JW Speaker LED headlights
2. JW Speaker LED fogs
The lighting on this vehicle is criminal to say the least!!
3. Upgrade stereo components.

Then get more ideas from here and see how it goes.

I won't build an offroad monster as this is a Daily Driver in Florida and will hardly see trails. But in due time it will be exported to my home country (Saint Lucia) where it will see some lovely time on the island. So i have to keep it somewhere in the middle of on road mannerly and wkend warrior status.

Thanks. Looking fwd to being part of your community.
1BLOOD. Family first.

PS: i'll include pics along the way.

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Old 02-17-2013, 05:51 PM   #2
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Welcome.

Skip the steering stabilizer mod. Keep your OEM unit unless or until it becomes inoperable.

You'll need the ProCal. The dealership can't help with 35" tires.

I'm looking forward to the pictures.

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Old 02-17-2013, 09:47 PM   #4
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Thank you for the responses. Anyone else have something to chime in about the wheels?

What's a good place to start looking for hard tops?
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Your wheels (offset) will determine how much sticks out past your fenders, if any. I've got 33-12.50 x 17 on vision warrior wheels (switched up from the factory 16") and they are nearly flush, if not slightly "inside" the fenders.
Also, I found that lift is not required unless I'm off roading. Of course it will look better with about 3", but as stated in an earlier post, you'll need a procal to correct your speedo.
Hope this helps, and welcome aboard!
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Your wheels (offset) will determine how much sticks out past your fenders, if any. I've got 33-12.50 x 17 on vision warrior wheels (switched up from the factory 16") and they are nearly flush, if not slightly "inside" the fenders.
Also, I found that lift is not required unless I'm off roading. Of course it will look better with about 3", but as stated in an earlier post, you'll need a procal to correct your speedo.
Hope this helps, and welcome aboard!
but what is the offset or backspacing or both of your rim?
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Everything I have seen says 4.5 offset on the rim. I am doing a similar project on a Black 2012 Sahara Unlimited 4 door (Heated Leather Seats).
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Everything I have seen says 4.5 offset on the rim. I am doing a similar project on a Black 2012 Sahara Unlimited 4 door (Heated Leather Seats).
Thanks. That but of information and your tire size kinda give me an idea of what to expect. Looking fwd to seeing what ur unlimited looks like.
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Everything I have seen says 4.5 offset on the rim. I am doing a similar project on a Black 2012 Sahara Unlimited 4 door (Heated Leather Seats).
^^ This, on the backspacing.

Generally, for clearing the suspension components that come with a lift, you need more backspacking (smaller #) than the stock wheels can provide. I believe with the AEV lift you've got a little more room than with most lifts, but if you're at 4.5" on the backspacing you'll be good to go.

Be aware, though, the lower your bs #, the more your tires will stick out from the Jeep. Sounds like you're aiming to avoid that.

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but what is the offset or backspacing or both of your rim?
Choosing wheels/tires for a Wrangler can be a headache, for any # of reasons. The first post in this thread will give you an idea of what you should be looking at; ignore the fact that the advice is for unlifted Jeeps...all the stuff about backspacing, wheel sizes and tire widths still applies. Largest tire on stock JK? Here's your answer!
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Skip the steering stabilizer mod. Keep your OEM unit unless or until it becomes inoperable.

You'll need the ProCal. The dealership can't help with 35" tires.
I agree with this info, too.

The stock SS is fine; however, if you do decide to go aftermarket, I'd avoid the dual SSs...they can cause steering issues. And a lot of folks say some of the gas-charged versions can introduce a "pull" in your steering.

I ran mine stock till I trashed it on something, then bought a cheap replacement made by Warrior that's been fine ever since.

Save your $$ for other stuff.

And welcome...
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Sorry, 1blood, been a busy week. All I can tell you is my new wheel/tire combo barely rubs my sway bar (now that they're on and I've been driving for a couple weeks). I don't remember the offset numbers for the new wheels, but I laid a straightedge across the old tire (still mounted to stock wheels) and compared to the new ones my new ones are 3/4" less to the hub- mounting surface. So my set-up now sticks out (at least the insides of the tires) 3/4 farther (each side) than before. I have considerably more tire width, they're flush with the fenders now.
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I agree with this info, too.

The stock SS is fine; however, if you do decide to go aftermarket, I'd avoid the dual SSs...they can cause steering issues. And a lot of folks say some of the gas-charged versions can introduce a "pull" in your steering.

I ran mine stock till I trashed it on something, then bought a cheap replacement made by Warrior that's been fine ever since.

Save your $$ for other stuff.

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X2 kbwwolf is right on the money. I am running completely without a SS and I have had no issues. Also you really want the 4.5-4" BS to clear lift components when wheeling.

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