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Old 06-27-2013, 01:03 PM   #31
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JL is great stuff. A little expensive, but you get what you pay for.

I'm wondering how you guys got those JL speakers to fit when Crutchfield says they do not... did you have to do some fitting?

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Old 06-27-2013, 01:11 PM   #32
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I'm going to take a wild guess here and suggest that Crutchfield is once again wrong. I honestly don't know why people pay any attention to that company, they're expensive and their information is regularly duff.

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Old 06-27-2013, 01:22 PM   #33
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I'm going to take a wild guess here and suggest that Crutchfield is once again wrong. I honestly don't know why people pay any attention to that company, they're expensive and their information is regularly duff.
That's what I thought. They probably don't have the brackets for them... custom installer can make almost anything of the appropriate size fit in there.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:33 PM   #34
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The JL C2's can fit without a bracket. They can be mounted directly into the plastic on the soundbar. I made the mistake of listening to crutchfield and ordering the mounting brackets only to find out that the scosche ones they recommend dont fit the JL's and actually need to be widened with a dremel in order for them to fit around the back part of the speaker. I did without them and mounted them directly into the soundbar. Worked out fine.

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Never used it before. As far as I can tell it's just a bunch of 18awg wires inside a single sheath, might make for slightly easier install but other than that..... meh.

I'm not overly fussed about speaker wire quality in car audio installs. The difference it makes is insignificant.
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Never used it before. As far as I can tell it's just a bunch of 18awg wires inside a single sheath, might make for slightly easier install but other than that..... meh.

I'm not overly fussed about speaker wire quality in car audio installs. The difference it makes is insignificant.
Thats what I was thinking myself. A lot of people have the mindset that all the wiring should be replaced, where as Im thinking if you played two stereos side by side, same everything, one with fully replaced speaker wires and the other with stock wiring, you wouldnt be able to differentiate between the two.
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I just like replacing the wires so that I know they dont go through any unnecessary plugs or modules as they enjoy doing with the canbus systems. Straight, new 16 gauge wire from the speaker to the amp.
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Alright so quite a good bit of progress tonight on the speaker install. I got the front right speaker pod removed as well as the tweeter. I got the tweeter mounted and wires ran, and I got the JL C2650 installed in the speaker pod. I also lined the pod with dynamat as well as filled it with polyfill. I got the crossover mounted in the same place Lynskey put his, except is used extra strength 3m mounting tape instead of velcro.

On Saturday I plan to do the front left side as well as run the speaker wire around the frame, and install the amp and head unit. Head unit should be easy, the PAC RP4-CH11 harness is already wired to the pioneer harness and ready to be installed.

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Any trickery involved in fitting the C2650 in the fronts? Crutchfield says they wont fit.
Did youy need a bracket or anything?
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Any trickery involved in fitting the C2650 in the fronts? Crutchfield says they wont fit.
Did youy need a bracket or anything?
Nope no brackets needed, i mounted them directly into the stock soundhole. Crutchfield is high. The toughest part is getting the speaker pod/enclosure out of the dash, and even that wasnt too tough. That being said though, i got the majority done but got to a point where i didnt feel comfortable doing any more myself so its going to the local car audio place tuesday, should be bumping by tuesday night!
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What were you not comfortable doing? If you know how to use a wire stripper and a crimping tool then there's nothing you can't do yourself very easily.

No surprise that Crutchfield were wrong. They seem to have built a business out of giving people bad information and then charging a premium for the products that they recommend based upon said advice. It would be really quite impressive were it not so offensive.
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Everything is installed, sounds amazing, and im happy to be finished with it. I never want to install audio again.....ever.
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Old 07-16-2013, 01:45 PM   #43
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If i were to replace my soundbar 6.5's with the JL C2-650's and the dash speakers / tweeters with the JL audio component kit but i didnt use an amplifier, you think i'd notice an improvement over the premium sound package?

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If i were to replace my soundbar 6.5's with the JL C2-650's and the dash speakers / tweeters with the JL audio component kit but i didnt use an amplifier, you think i'd notice an improvement over the premium sound package?

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yes, most definitely.
I have them in the back and only got the tweeters in the front so far and the tweeters were worth the money alone. Had to turn down the treble a bit but much clearer and crisp.
Will update when I get the front woofers in this weekend, but wouldn't be surprised if some bass is lost by doing so, going by past experiences.
But I plan to install my old JL 12 in the back so it wont matter.
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my plan for right now is to buy the C2 component kit and the C2 coax speakers and just replace them while maintaining factory wiring. I dont have time to be messing around with amping them up quite yet. I dont plan on touching the sub at all. Do you think I should be concerned with the resistance rating of the JL's vs the Alpine's that are currently installed there?
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your plan is the exact thing I did. I did replace the head unit, but that wouldn't matter as all the power is coming from the amp. I wouldn't worry about the ohm difference. If anything it would be a bonus if they were a little more "underpowered" because then the sub would be able to catch up with them. Seems to me the factory sub does very little at all stock form.
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make sure to get some polyfill. Many say it really helps. Not too sure but I did it anyway.
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kickass, the component kit and coax kit are insanely cheap on amazon, im going to get them and be able to swap them out relatively quickly. i'll keep the polyfill in mind too, thanks overboosted!
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Yeah thats where i got them from too. Hard to beat the price. They also have the wire adapters if you dont want to cut your factory stuff.

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I went with JL c2's all the way around and love it. I've not added a sub yet because I'm busy spending all my extra dough on the rest of the jeep but the speakers alone are great sound quality.
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I went with JL c2's all the way around and love it. I've not added a sub yet because I'm busy spending all my extra dough on the rest of the jeep but the speakers alone are great sound quality.
did you lose bass when you replaced the front woofers?
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A little bit but not worried as when the sub goes in it will make up for it
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I know i didnt lose bass, but it almost sounds like it because the C2's tweeters were so harsh so i dialed the frequencies in and it sounded a lot better.

Speaking of subs im thinking about going go the jeep parts department at my dealership to ask about ordering one of the 8" sub panels that come with the premium audio system. I dont even know if thats possible but if it is i was thinking about putting in a JL 8w7 or putting on a spacer to fit a JL 10w6.

Wanting to use the premium audio sub enclosure to save space in the back. Any suggestions?
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I know i didnt lose bass, but it almost sounds like it because the C2's tweeters were so harsh so i dialed the frequencies in and it sounded a lot better.

Speaking of subs im thinking about going go the jeep parts department at my dealership to ask about ordering one of the 8" sub panels that come with the premium audio system. I dont even know if thats possible but if it is i was thinking about putting in a JL 8w7 or putting on a spacer to fit a JL 10w6.

Wanting to use the premium audio sub enclosure to save space in the back. Any suggestions?
I stuffed a W3 in the stock "sub-tub" and it eventually rattled something fierce. I tried to deactivate the rattle with sound deadener but in the end it won. I yanked the stock sub panel, replaced with a factory flat panel and did an aftermarket box. No rattles. And I made it removable in the event I need the room.
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Fair enough!
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Thinking about installing a JL audio C5-650X component set up front...should be no problem, right?

I checked out the woofer's physical dimensions and they are approximately equal to those of the C2's...which we all know fit.
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It's a 6.5" speaker so it should be fine, but the 650X is a coaxial. The 650 is the component set up, don't order the wrong thing. Depth isn't an issue in the front pods.

Be aware they're not worth the money, though. You'll get speakers every bit as good for half the price, and in a Jeep people won't even be able to see the evidence of your extravagance.
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:14 PM   #58
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If there is any interest I took out my jl audio w3 micro sub and jl audio 300/1 amp. Fits perfect behind the seat and sounds great with a hardtop. Not looking for much dough either.
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well I answered my earlier question. my custom downfiring 2-10 jl closed box from my tj is a tight fit behind the back seat in my 2dr but it fits. now to get it hooked up.
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It's a 6.5" speaker so it should be fine, but the 650X is a coaxial. The 650 is the component set up, don't order the wrong thing. Depth isn't an issue in the front pods.

Be aware they're not worth the money, though. You'll get speakers every bit as good for half the price, and in a Jeep people won't even be able to see the evidence of your extravagance.
+1. This has been my experience with jl full range speakers. Subs & amps are top rate but coaxial and component speakers are not worth the premium in my opinion. Good stuff but other stuff I'd install instead.

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