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Old 12-02-2013, 12:13 AM   #1
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New Thief Trick -Power locks must read

My 2013 JKUR with hard top has been broken into twice in the last week. We couldn't figure out how, and they cleaned me out good. Well, I have an update, and you all may want to take notice.

I will start with last Sunday/Monday. On my way into work, I notice my jeep doors are unlocked/ and not closed all the way. Upon further investigation, my oakley's are missing from the dash, digital camera is gone. Nothing else. No damage to the jeep. They missed my SOG dive knife and keltec pistol in the map pockets. Don't grab the trucklite headlites, SPOD, or VIAIR system I haven't installed, but is sitting in boxes in the back. Lucky me.

I live in in a condo downtown, with a private, locked parking garage, completely closed in. Need a door code to open the garage, and jeep must've been locked...How did they get in?

Well, I call the cops and as I am waiting, ponder what happened. The best I can figure is this must've been the 1 time I didn't lock my doors. Cops come, I file the report. They tell me nothing much, good chance of recovering the high end camera at a pawn shop, yada yada yada. No evidence of forced entry. Nothing new.

I go to work, get off, buy a new camera. Make sure my jeep is locked. Continue life for a few days. Go home with the GF for the holidays, and parking her car, first thing I notice are my hood latches are unclipped. Then my doors are half-closed again. No way! ^%#$^%$^%

I call the cops, don't touch anything. Go up to the apartment wait maybe 20 minutes.

Cop comes, I lift the hood first. Right off the bat I notice two 9v batteries wired in series. With a + and - lead. Unfortunately not hooked up. But this time I am 100% sure my doors were locked. Last thing I did before leaving for the holiday.

Cop said it has happened a couple times the last month, they think thieves are "jumping" the lock circuitry on wranglers. Go get a hood lock. Mine is ordered.

They managed to find the pistol, knife, new camera, change cup, spider-balls for my shade. My new Viair, SPOD, and Tucklites. Even took my registration paperwork and insurance info.

As I am giving my statement, I realize I had grabbed the impact gun from Meghan's car, when I got out. (why, I don't know). Left it sit on the front bumper when I went upstairs to wait on the cop. I go to grab it so I can put it in the jeep, and its gone!

I tell the cop add that to the list, and say I have been robbed 3 times now. He tells me they stopped to kids on bikes before I came back down. Said they were suspicious, and had tailgated an other car into my garage. They had let them go though, as they said they lived here. We found them on the lower level. With my impact wrench and some assorted odds and ends from the beamer they were at. Still no word on the rest of the goods.

Anyone advice on how to break it to chrysler? IMO its a serious design flaw. Recall worthy for sure. However, I can see in my crystal ball. As soon as I bring it up, they will flag my warranty and 6 moths from now, when some electrical component goes out, it'll get blamed on the "jumping" of the lock circuit and denied.

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That sucks!! Glad I just leave my non power locks unlocked and have no chance of this happening. Also, I'm sure you have learned this, but never leave anything of value in the Jeep unless in a Tuffy type lock box. I have the center console insert and drop CC's, money and sunglasses inside. Never had a problem. Good luck!

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yeah, I assumed I was good in my garage. turns out not.
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BTW, anyone have a lead on a better price to pick up a mopar fuel door, cap, and hood lock?

I will cough up $300 if I have to, but seems a little steep.
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yeah, I assumed I was good in my garage. turns out not.
Is it community parking garage??
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That blows...

Hoodlocks were some of the first things I ordered.

But what about the alarm?
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Sorry to hear about that, but thanks for the heads up on how they are getting in. Never heard of that before. I guess when they jump it the alarm is turned off??

These $&@!$& are brazen, they will be back. Have you considered setting them up? Putting empty boxes of valuable items in the jeep could be the bait, set up a camera, have about four friends ready to pounce on these, uh people.

Just a thought. Good luck and sorry that happened.
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If anyone could provide technical details about how this is done, I'd be really interested to know. I'm not interested in breaking into anyone's ride, just interested in protecting mine.
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My very first additions to my Jeep were Rampage Locking Hood Latches and the Locking gas cap I had on my F-150 I traded it in for the Jeep.

Once you have been ripped off in any manner, your innocence about people is gone. And as said earlier, don't leave anything in your vehicle that you don't want stolen. It's like bait to a hungry animal. If they see it, they will try to take it from you.

Good Luck on getting some of your stuff back. I doubt if Chrysler is going to make this a recall. It's a not a safety issue, only a theft issue.
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thanks for sharing. I think I'm going to sticky this for the holidays. worth keeping it up top and keeping everyone informed.

keep us updated. I hope you are able to get your gear back. I'll be honest. I'm just devious enough to bait these little turds into trying it again. and I'd be lying in wait. with a side arm and the cell phone on speed dial to the cops.

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Remember you are 1 of 10 that day for the cop ... Record the serial numbers on anything valuable , it may be found years later at a pawn shop or drug house ... then brace your self for the day the thief gets arrested and gets a few days in jail for his non violent crime...
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best theft prevention technique known to man is not to leave anything of value in your vehicle.
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Sorry it happened. I hope you learned your lesson.

.....and NEVER leave a gun unsecured in a vehicle again.
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Sorry it happened. I hope you learned your lesson.

.....and NEVER leave a gun unsecured in a vehicle again.
I missed that part. Yikes. Probably the number 1 reason we can not keep guns out of the bad guys hands.
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Sorry it happened. I hope you learned your lesson. .....and NEVER leave a gun unsecured in a vehicle again.
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Absolutely reckless leaving a gun unsecured in a vehicle- furthermore a Jeep Wrangler. Now that gun is in your neighborhood on the street...SCARY. Sadly, you knew the risks the second time and decided to gamble on it again with the firearm
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I missed that part. Yikes. Probably the number 1 reason we can not keep guns out of the bad guys hands.
That IS the #1 reason. In all of our classes, we strongly suggest handguns are kept on your person and never loose in a car. IMO, that is irresponsible and lazy. Carry it or don't.
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Is there not a plunger under the hood? I have not tried, but I would think that lifting the hood would trigger the alarm.....if not....that is pretty whack on Jeep's part.

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Absolutely reckless leaving a gun unsecured in a vehicle- furthermore a Jeep Wrangler. Now that gun is in your neighborhood on the street...SCARY. Sadly, you knew the risks the second time and decided to gamble on it again with the firearm

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As I am giving my statement, I realize I had grabbed the impact gun from Meghan's car, when I got out. (why, I don't know). Left it sit on the front bumper when I went upstairs to wait on the cop. I go to grab it so I can put it in the jeep, and its gone!
This quote taken from his first post, Not exactly a handgun people.
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This quote taken from his first post, Not exactly a handgun people.
Better take another look
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There is a plunger on the driver's corner. And if anything but a sentry fob tries to unlock the Jeep it will set off the alarm. I am betting his horn is disconnected too.
The fob in the video is laying right there in close proximity
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Is there not a plunger under the hood? I have not tried, but I would think that lifting the hood would trigger the alarm.....if not....that is pretty whack on Jeep's part.

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Maybe it's different on later years but on my 07 the alarm did not trip when I opened my hood to add a quart of oil.
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Maybe it's different on later years but on my 07 the alarm did not trip when I opened my hood to add a quart of oil.
Hopefully it is different on newer models.

If not, what the good is the plunger? Just to tell me that my hood when you can look at your hood from the drivers seat and see it isn't latched?

Maybe the theives did unhook the horn.

OP - does your horn work?
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Hopefully it is different on newer models.

If not, what the good is the plunger? Just to tell me that my hood when you can look at your hood from the drivers seat and see it isn't latched?

Plunger especially comes into play when you have factory remote start. JK will not remote start if the plunger (on the switch) is not depressed.... as in the engine compartment hood is open. Obviously, this is a safety feature.
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[QUOTEIf anyone could provide technical details about how this is done, I'd be really interested to know. I'm not interested in breaking into anyone's ride, just interested in protecting mine. ][/QUOTE]

Whisky Tango Foxtrot!!! Are you effing retarded CaptainDick?

DO NOT post detailed instructions on how to break into newer Jeep Wranglers.

Jesustapdancingchristonacrutch, thieves worldwide search auto forums for exactly this type of information.
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Is it community parking garage??
Not a community garage. only three doors in. Two garage doors and a pedestrian door, kept locked.



As to How/ does the alarm go off?

I don't know. No witnesses when it happened. However, the alarm DOES NOT go off when the hood is opened. As to when they jumped the locks, IDK.


To COStrider, Captain Ahab, and the rest...
To the comments about an unsecured gun, I really wouldn't call an unloaded pistol, trigger locked, dissassembled, and put away in a traveling case which was also locked irresponsible or unsecure. Especially inside I locked vehicle in a "secure" parking facility. PS: It has a broken firing pin. Not exactly gonna light up the streets.

I also started to thread to educate the community on a potential security threat. Not to be bashed by your uninformed opinions on a something unrelated. Go hijack another thread, and let the rest of us focus on finding a solution.
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My horn does work, at least when i remote lock my jeep. Took it out today and checked out all the electricals. Everything seems to be working fine. IF the jolt were simulating a lock button being pressed, or perhaps the remote reciever triggering the door unlock feature, I wouldn't expect to hear a horn anyway. Also keep in mind that the garage is off an alley surrounded by brick buildings, and the thieves apparently struck later in the evening (several other residents have reported incidents now, from the past week). It is not out of reason to believe the alarm went off for several minutes without anyone being alerted.

Plan on contacting chrysler as soon as my insurance claim is all squared away about further investigating how they are doing this. If i get any answers, I won't post how its done, but I will certainly post how we can prevent it. For now, I am banking on the Mopar hoodlock that just came in today. Putting it on tonight.
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If a vehicle has power door locks, the sentry device engages and will set off the horn a beeping if something puts a key in the door (in the case the electrical trick), it will go off every time any door is opened. The plunger is a part of the remote start package. Nothing to do with an alarm. I know this one for a fact. I have had to unlock the door with the key when the sentry device fails to respond to the button press. I have to put the key on the switch and turn it on to silence the horn,. (2009 JK).

The Sentry, (SKREEM) will trigger the alarm if anything other than the unlock button is used to unlock the door.

Not saying what happened to you is bogus. Just trying to figure out how.

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