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Old 02-17-2012, 06:12 PM   #1
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Well this is my first post. I currently do not own a jeep but I am in the process of buying one(I currently drive a 2005 Chevy Colorado). I am looking into the 2012 Rubicon unlimited. I do have some questions that I am hoping someone can help me out. First off, manuel or auto? I do not know how to drive manuel, no one in my family has a manuel currently, I never thought about driving with a stick until I looked into buying a Jeep. I have a friend who is willing to teach me but I don't know if its worth it.

Also what is the difference between the 430N SAT and the 730N SAT? Are either worth it in a Jeep?

The last question i have is about the top. I would love to have a hard top in the late fall/winter and a soft/no top for the spring/summer/early fall so would my best option be going with the dual top group? or is there another option? I am just going off of jeeps website. I haven't sat down with a dealer yet but I would rather hear what actual Jeep owners have to say because dealers just want your money. I appreciate any feedback!

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Old 02-17-2012, 07:56 PM   #2
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I think you get a manual either because you love it or because you want to save $1000. there are numerous auto vs manual threads here, but basically the conclusion for most people is it is a matter of preference. You will likely be harder on the clutch and gears as a new to manual driver - and that could cost you in repairs under warranty.

re hard top - it's tends to be cheaper to buy the dual top version then to try to buy a hard top afterwards separately

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Read, read, read, all the posts. This site is great for education and everyone is helpful. In the end, it'll be your jeep how you want it...not how we want it. I've had many manual cars and trucks but prefer the auto for my daily driver (DD), I looked at all the options available, read the posts on navigation like you're questioning and decided against it. I know where I'm going and if not, I grab the garmin I have. Also went for the dual-top group (soft and hard top) as it's cheaper during purchase and I wanted a hard-top for winter. Many different threads so if you have a question, search the forum as it's probably been asked. I spent about 3 months reading this and other forums before I bought and couldn't be happier.
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:20 PM   #4
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Thanks guys! I deff have learned a lot from reading these posts, I'm about a month or so away from ordering mine! thanks again
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How come you want to learn to drive a stick in a 4x4 truck? Thats usually for sports car people. Who would like to take advantage of the whole sports car feel.

The new 5 speed in the '12's are very nice. And they have an auto shifter that isnt bad at all.

Also you sure you need a Rubicon? Lockers front and rear? Thats kinda hard core.
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Also you sure you need a Rubicon? Lockers front and rear? Thats kinda hard core.
I would venture a guess that a very large percentage of the Rubicon's bought new are not NEEDED, but it is their money.
My own brother is looking at buying a new Jeep; guess what-- Rubicon--
for a mall crawler!! However; It is his money!! Oh, well!!
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Old 02-20-2012, 06:31 PM   #7
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Dual top is a yes.

Manual vs. Auto, you'll need to test it out. I love the manual transmission, and when I tested the auto I was shocked at how smooth it was. Still couldn't get the auto though
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:35 PM   #9
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If you are thinking about a manual, I would rent a car (or test drive) with it and see how you like it. Its not to hard to pick up but you still might not like it. I bought one because I enjoy driving a manual more but a lot of people don't enjoy the extra work especially in heavy stop and go traffic.

I went dual top because I knew I wanted a soft top and with the hard to the wiring and plumbing are already installed...lazy I guess.
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Well if you are the only one in the family that learns how to drive stick at least you'll be the only one taking the Jeep out.

Seriously, they are not hard to learn but get what will makes you happy. If you are the type that likes trying new things go for it.
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thanks guys i appreciate the feedback, looks like i have to take car of my senior year tuition before I can get a jeep but I have a feeling it will be well worth the wait
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How come you want to learn to drive a stick in a 4x4 truck? Thats usually for sports car people. Who would like to take advantage of the whole sports car feel.

The new 5 speed in the '12's are very nice. And they have an auto shifter that isnt bad at all.

Also you sure you need a Rubicon? Lockers front and rear? Thats kinda hard core.
When the zombiepocalypse hits you dont want to worry about missing a gear or getting stuck trying to climb that hill. Get the Auto Rubicon so you can get to the top and lay down some cover fire for all your buddies dumping there clutch!
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:09 PM   #13
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When the zombiepocalypse hits you dont want to worry about missing a gear or getting stuck trying to climb that hill. Get the Auto Rubicon so you can get to the top and lay down some cover fire for all your buddies dumping there clutch!
haha! good call!

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