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Old 02-17-2017, 12:45 PM
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New WARN VR8 winch on hard rock bumper?

Long term I might add a winch, never really wanted/needed to spend the ~$1K for a good winch.

This new Warn winch for $499 with steel cable caught my eye for occasional usage:

https://www.warn.com/truck/winches/vr8.jsp

I wonder if it's compatible within the HR bumper?

Not that I'm planning to buy right away...
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Please read the thread. If you still decide to purchase after reading it, then that's all that matters. As far as your question goes, i'm really not sure but hopefully someone can chime in.
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@new to jeep ... it might be over budget for you but theres a brand new warn zeon 8s for 829 on ebay.
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@new to jeep ... it might be over budget for you but theres a brand new warn zeon 8s for 829 on ebay.
Thanks, I just read your other thread, glad I did! I'm going to hold off for now until I can save up & decide I really need/want one....
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Thanks, I just read your other thread, glad I did! I'm going to hold off for now until I can save up & decide I really need/want one....
Yeah, I just want you to be forewarned. If I purchased that winch, I would've done some preventative maintenance prior to install.

-Reclock the wires
-purchase a longer bolt for the fairlead or purchase a new fairlead for synthetic
-upgrade the mounting hardware to higher grade bolts
-better bolts or rust proof the existing bolts
-3m the weak plastic cover
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Looking at a winch for my new tube buggy...it is pretty light so 8000 pounds should be plenty.

This model is pretty affordable. Did Warn set up a shop in China?

My Warn x8000i has performed flawlessly on my Jeep...for 18 years now. I have used it about 4-5 times.

Seems like all of the top buggies and crawlers use Warn.....based on watching youtube. if you spend over $50,000 what is another couple hundred to get a Warn instead of another winch?

Warn does have a limited lifetime warranty though I'm not sure what the provisions and exclusions might be. A receipt? After 18 years?

Knowing the mega disaster capability of being without a winch and frequently Jeeping by myself, I will likely buy another Warn. One thing I like is being able to secure myself when the rollover hazard is too high....most of the time.

Now if I could find the lowlife that stole all of my winching accessories.

I also recommend a snatch block/doubler while one is at it. Plus extra straps for extending the range of the winch etc.
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I don't know about the VR series, but I can tell you that a 10s platinum fit perfectly into my hard rock bumper. There is about a 1/8 to 1/4 inch gap between the bumper and winch. No cutting was required.
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I had a VR on my Hard Rock bumper for about a month. It fits, but I wouldn't spend my money on that particular winch.

As I posted on that other thread @dawhitesJKU refers to, this particular Warn winch is just not worth it. You may be better off paying LESS for a Smittybilt H2O or a 4WD Hardware winch with MORE features, and pocketing the savings, or stepping up to a real Warn winch if you can afford to.

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This model is pretty affordable. Did Warn set up a shop in China?

My Warn x8000i has performed flawlessly on my Jeep...for 18 years now. I have used it about 4-5 times.

Seems like all of the top buggies and crawlers use Warn.....based on watching youtube. if you spend over $50,000 what is another couple hundred to get a Warn instead of another winch?

Warn does have a limited lifetime warranty though I'm not sure what the provisions and exclusions might be. A receipt? After 18 years?

Knowing the mega disaster capability of being without a winch and frequently Jeeping by myself, I will likely buy another Warn. One thing I like is being able to secure myself when the rollover hazard is too high....most of the time.

Now if I could find the lowlife that stole all of my winching accessories.

I also recommend a snatch block/doubler while one is at it. Plus extra straps for extending the range of the winch etc.
Yes, I too have had my Warn 9.5cti for several years now and it just works and looks new still.

Winching myself a few weeks ago, Jeepers with other brands winches remarked how fast my 9.5 spools. I guess it does; that's all I've ever known.

But Warn is tarnishing its brand reputation by offering that VR winch. Then again, I bought a pair of Warn wireless fog lights a couple years ago and they were total cr*p, too.
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Pretty clear that a $500 winch had some corners cut compared to an $800 winch. At this point in time, I still remain unconvinced that the VR is not a generally satisfactory winching solution for the typical user. There are hundreds of reviews with ample time for users to air out their grievances.

Ordered one yesterday for my lightweight tube buggy. Will then be able to compare it to my 18 year old Warn x8000i.

I must say that my experience with Chinese competition is that it often becomes a race to the bottom for prices....and quality. I have literally given up on modern technology and electronics. Too much great looking, beautifully packaged crap that works perfectly for one day.

Warn is taking a lot of heat for their plastic cover for the VR winch. It is... Chinese crap. After reading the reviews, think I'll use an old gym bag instead of that garbage with Warn's name on it.

Why did I buy a cheaper Warn? Too much to do and unable to afford going first class on everything. The 30 year old tube buggy is for punishing country that rips fancy, expensive 4WDs apart for breakfast. Plus the last owner said that he never got stuck and it doesn't need a winch. I plan to keep an undented TJ for the rest of my life.


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Yes, I too have had my Warn 9.5cti for several years now and it just works and looks new still.

Winching myself a few weeks ago, Jeepers with other brands winches remarked how fast my 9.5 spools. I guess it does; that's all I've ever known.

But Warn is tarnishing its brand reputation by offering that VR winch. Then again, I bought a pair of Warn wireless fog lights a couple years ago and they were total cr*p, too.
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Found a big reason for the reduced price. There is some assembly required needing a few wrenches including a 13mm metric, 1/4" allen wrench and a pair of vice grips.

Shipping in a smaller box with better protection and less labor could be the entirety of the answer. Then again....they may some slipped some Chinese electronics in the solenoid box. Also....there are no Warn forklift battery type disconnects. The cables go straight to the battery. Warn disconnects are about $50. Their accessories are outrageous.

It took a bit more head scratching to assemble than I may have expected. Would be very easy to do it.....a second time.

My first Warn, an x8000i, was pre-assembled and literally just slipped into the 2" receiver. Think I paid the same amount...18 years ago.
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Interesting....they are certainly not Grade 8 bolts. In fact, I broke one....after some abuse. To be fair, Warn states that this winch is designed for the casual user. We should not expect a low price and the highest quality.


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Yeah, I just want you to be forewarned. If I purchased that winch, I would've done some preventative maintenance prior to install.

-Reclock the wires
-purchase a longer bolt for the fairlead or purchase a new fairlead for synthetic
-upgrade the mounting hardware to higher grade bolts
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-3m the weak plastic cover
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Warn had to do something for the $500 and under market.
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Buy once cry once when it comes to a winch. Might end up using it often or might be years between uses. I have used my current Zeon winch twice in four years. Both times to help some else out. Point being for a few extra hundred dollars move up to the Zeon, you get solid peace of mind knowing it will work even after years of non use exposed to mother nature and the ravages of DD.

I look at a winch like auto insurance, when you need it, you need it, best to have more than the required minimum coverage.
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Eh.....I might do it again. Then again....I might not. It was a chore getting the Warn disconnects ordered and installed. Doing it right involves a hydraulic crimper and shrink tape. With the disconnect installed, I can operate the winch from the front or the rear receiver.....with 20' of extra cable with Warn disconnects. I like to be prepared....and have needed to operate the winch from the rear receiver.

I think the winch is fine for the driver who may use it a few times/year. I'm pretty sure *most* of the parts are the same.

Just be prepared to spend a couple hours assembling it...if you need to save some bucks.
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I had the Warn jumper cables that used that disconnect on my Defender - might look into those for your setup if you haven't already.
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At $120/set those are geared for the professional.

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At $120/set those are geared for the professional.
Considering folks spend over $700 for headlights that replace existing ones, $120 seems like a bargain
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You need Warn disconnects on both sides of your extra cable....to run from both front and back.
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You need Warn disconnects on both sides of your extra cable....to run from both front and back.
I'm not sure what you are saying. I was just suggesting if you personally have the disconnects mounted F/R for winching, you get the jumper cable and it is a lot more convenient to jump from the F/R, no need to open your hood. I had mine mounted under my Def 110's drivers seat, as the battery was there as well.
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Suppose you could. Though using clamps to transfer power while winching could be an electrifying experience.


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I'm not sure what you are saying. I was just suggesting if you personally have the disconnects mounted F/R for winching, you get the jumper cable and it is a lot more convenient to jump from the F/R, no need to open your hood. I had mine mounted under my Def 110's drivers seat, as the battery was there as well.

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