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Old 08-01-2013, 11:44 AM   #1
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I need help, can't make my mind on my own. And I've got some questions...

I'm a former motorcycle driver, love the open air. I currently drive a GMC Terrain SLT 4cyl FWD. I love to drive a truck/SUV but miss the open air. So I want to take the best of both world and get a Jeep Wrangler. I don't have budget restriction and fuel cost don't scare me. I live in Quebec, so we do have cold winter with snow and icy roads. But I get by with my FWD easy enough most of the time.

I'm not planning on going rock climbing. But I could get tempted to join a Jeep club and get messy on dirt roads and tracks. I do want my Jeep to be solid, let me explain : people around here (I don't know if it's the same everywhere) don't seem to care about someone else car. They don't know how to park and I've had my bumpers scratched on a couple of occasions and I also have door dings. So, the Jeep would be a sweet revenge, by having steel bumpers and rock guards.

The Jeep would be my daily driver and I don't mind a little bit of rough. I'm aiming for the 4 doors Unlimited model.

So... Here are the questions:

1) Sahara or Rubicon?

- When I go on the Jeep website, I build my Jeep and the Rubicon has a package that include the steel bumpers and rock guards. That option does not seem to be available on the Sahara.

2) Since it would be my daily driver, is there a big difference on the road between the Sahara and the Rubicon?

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3) How complicated is it to switch from the Hard Top to the Soft Top? I'm planning on using the hard top only during winter. Come spring, I'd install the soft top.

4) Is it possible to completely remove the soft top while using the hard top? I'd like to have space in the truck, so I'd remove the soft top when using the hard one.

5) Anything else I should know before buying a Jeep Wrangler? Surprise I should expect?

Thank you so much for any help you can give me.

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Old 08-01-2013, 11:59 AM   #2
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Well, I'll put in my 2 cents here

1) Sahara or Rubicon?
Basically, you get more comforts with the Sahara and a more capable off road Jeep with the Rubicon. You can modify either one as much as you like so they will be almost exactly as the other, so it's up to you. I have a Sport model and have modified it so much, it's almost exactly like a Rubicon.

2) Since it would be my daily driver, is there a big difference on the road between the Sahara and the Rubicon?
Not really.

3) How complicated is it to switch from the Hard Top to the Soft Top? I'm planning on using the hard top only during winter. Come spring, I'd install the soft top.
Couldn't say, I only run a soft top.

4) Is it possible to completely remove the soft top while using the hard top? I'd like to have space in the truck, so I'd remove the soft top when using the hard one.
You HAVE to remove the soft top when you run the hard top. You see both installed at the dealer only for transport. It will do damage if you leave both on for any length of time.


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Old 08-01-2013, 12:47 PM   #3
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1) Sahara or Rubicon?

The Sahara is just a little fancier with painted flares and high price tag. Rubicon is more "trail ready" with a high price tag.

2) Since it would be my daily driver, is there a big difference on the road between the Sahara and the Rubicon?

The tires that come on the Rubi make a little more noise.

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3) How complicated is it to switch from the Hard Top to the Soft Top? I'm planning on using the hard top only during winter. Come spring, I'd install the soft top.

It's not that hard at all. Then again, while I was in Alaska, I only had a soft top so I never did the winter top swap like a couple of my friends.

4) Is it possible to completely remove the soft top while using the hard top? I'd like to have space in the truck, so I'd remove the soft top when using the hard one.

Yes, it's possible and recommended too. As stated before, removing the soft top is very easy.

5) Anything else I should know before buying a Jeep Wrangler? Surprise I should expect?

Yes, it is called a JEEP not a truck and never, ever, a car. You can also use rig, ride, mistress, money pit, and an occasional four letter word.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:08 PM   #4
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It is rare that we see Sahara or Rubi. It is usually Sport S vs Sahara....or Sport vs Rubi.

From an interior standpoint, a Sahara and a Rubi are indentical (on the 4 doors), and have the same options available. The only difference is that on the 2 door models, power windows/doors/tint, ect are optonal on the Rubi.

So it will really come down to how you want to use the Jeep. The Rubi is better equipped for intense off-roading and modding (availble 4.10's, lockers, edisco's, 4:1 transfer case, D44 upfront, MT tires). The Sahara is better suited for light trails (mostly because of the plastic side steps) and on road (AT tires, available LSD).

Tough call. I'd rather have AT tires (over MT's) and LSD (over open dif/lockers) for winter daily driving......BUT....if you are going to mod it, I'd rather have a Rubi and go with different tires.

If I were you, I'd lean towards the Rubi...especially if you plan on adding a lot of steel, joining a club and hitting some trails.
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:10 PM   #5
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Being a newb I can only really help with this one-

3) How complicated is it to switch from the Hard Top to the Soft Top? I'm planning on using the hard top only during winter. Come spring, I'd install the soft top. We bought the Sahara with duel top and my husband and I took off the hard top together. I probably will not be doing that again. It was not hard really, but for me heavy, and I did not have to go far as a neighbor helped my husband move it to it's temp location. Also, we had a little bit of a problem getting to some of the bolts that sit beside the soft top off. You should not have to worry about this but once since you should not be running with both. To get the hard top into storage will probably require three people since it is in a bit of a tight spot. If you have a garage I have seen some REALLY great hoists people have made. Made me want to build a garage just for that.
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Removing the hardtop by yourself (without a hoist) is a no-no.

Removing the top with a friend is possible....but ackward. The top isn't heavy, but all of the weight is in the rear because of the glass.

Removing the top with a quality hoist in a garage isn't too bad at all, and can easily be done by yourself.

I say this often.... It is much easier to fully enjoy a Wrangler if you have a garage. It gives you a secure /dry place to park at night if you are naked.
It gives you a place to install a hoist, which makes swapping tops much easier.
It gives you a place to keep your doors.
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Are you planning to custom order or buy off the dealer's lot? I custom ordered mine, and it was like ordering a girlfriend just the way you want her. Needless to say, it was love at first sight. lol.

Post some pics here when you get it. The factory can be real slow with custom orders. Mine took almost six months from date of order to delivery.
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Old 08-02-2013, 12:02 AM   #8
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Thanks for all the information. I do have a garage, but it's not a high ceiling so I don't know if I can install a hoist. But I have extra arms to help me, so it might be okay. And I have extra storage space to keep the top while riding with the soft one.

Stupid question, what is LSD? And what's bad about the factory Rubi tires?

Thanks again!
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You dont need a hard top for the winter, the soft top can support the weight of snow on it...its not a big deal. But a hard top would be nice to have. You cant really open the back windows on a soft top in freezing temperatures without risking breaking them.

LSD is limited slip differentials. You dont need them but they'd be nice. And factory rubi tires are skinny and dont look as cool as 33x12.50s.

I wouldn't get the factory steel bumpers and rock guards personally. The bumpers are nice, i dont like the rock guards. Could get a better deal with more choices on aftermarket. Thats all.

I would reccomend against the sahara for two reasons. You're going to take the doors off a lot it seems. 1) Power windows are heavier. 2) Power windows do NO GOOD AT ALL if the doors are not attached, do they?

I would reccomend against a rubicon if you're going to do heavy mods, because you'll pay good money for a bunch of stuff you're going to replace anyway.

I would reccomend against a rubicon if you aren't doing some pretty serious wheelin also. You'll pay good money for a bunch of stuff you'll never use.

You would be amazed at the offroad capabilities of just a base model wrangler. In fact, that's what I have. I would reccomend you get air conditioning though. I don't have that....

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