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Old 02-19-2014, 12:30 AM   #1
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Newbie here- tires/wheels or lift kit 1st?

I'm new to the Jeep world (came from an Acura sedan, yea sorry about that)... I have a stock 2011 sahara unlimited and looking to do a small lift and tires/wheels. Which should I do first or does it matter?

Lift- I'd like maybe a 2 or 3 inch, but there seems to be tons of options from 200 bucks to 500 bucks or so. What should I look for or stay away from? Mainly been looking on quadratec's and 4 wheel parts site since I've bought from them before.

Tires/Wheels- thinking of going with duratracs 33" 12.5 15's with black MB 72 wheels (if they even fit) or some 285/70/17's with AE wheels series 012 in black matte.

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33x12.50x15 will fit without a lift on your stock jeep. Unfortunately the mb72 is no longer in production but has been replaced with the level 8 tracker as a similar rim. (I just ordered that setup from discount tire direct) and yes 15inch wheels will fit as long as you have the proper back spacing. I believe it is 3.75" or less. Not 100% on that. 285/70/17 would be a similar size so they should work as well. Lots on info on those duratracs over in the JK pic forum with the title of something like "33x1250 duratracs install and pics" its a huge thread and should be close to top. although if you are gonna be doing any off roading you will probably rub without the lift from what I have read.

as for lift I don't know cause I don't have one. but there are plenty of threads that are talking about them.

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Is your warranty up? If no, dont touch; many if not most shops will void warranty in anything to do with driveline/suspension if your tires and/or suspension has been lifted. About the only thing they will generally let slide is a simple body lift.

Now, if you dont care about warranty; then the question becomes what are your plans as to what you want to do with your Jeep.
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If you are going to spend $500 or less look at the 1-2" spacers. The coil lift kits in that price range are mostly disposable and will cause more frustration in the future than pleasure in the present.

The Duratracs are a good all-around and very popular tire so you will probably be very happy with them. Find a good shop to install the lift if you are not going to install yourself.
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Is your warranty up? If no, dont touch; many if not most shops will void warranty in anything to do with driveline/suspension if your tires and/or suspension has been lifted. About the only thing they will generally let slide is a simple body lift.

Now, if you dont care about warranty; then the question becomes what are your plans as to what you want to do with your Jeep.
That may be your experience in Canada, but that is not the case in the US. We actually have laws here to prevent that from happening.
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I can only speak for myself and as such, i am going to install the lift and tires first on stock Rubicon wheels. Latter down the road Im going to get wheels. To me its more important to have the lift as its going to allow me a better stance and more capability....wheels are for looks only. At the end of the day, its up to you!!! Happy Jeepin'!
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Actually the wheels aren't for "looks only". The back spacing on stock wheels is an issue. If you are running wider tires on stock wheels you will need wheel spacers. If you go to smaller wheels you may find that the tire/wheel combination is actually less expensive than stock wheels with spacers.
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33x12.50x15 will fit without a lift on your stock jeep. Unfortunately the mb72 is no longer in production but has been replaced with the level 8 tracker as a similar rim. (I just ordered that setup from discount tire direct) and yes 15inch wheels will fit as long as you have the proper back spacing. I believe it is 3.75" or less. Not 100% on that. 285/70/17 would be a similar size so they should work as well. Lots on info on those duratracs over in the JK pic forum with the title of something like "33x1250 duratracs install and pics" its a huge thread and should be close to top. although if you are gonna be doing any off roading you will probably rub without the lift from what I have read.

as for lift I don't know cause I don't have one. but there are plenty of threads that are talking about them.
Thanks for the info I really appreciate it. I will check out those level 8 trackers.
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Is your warranty up? If no, dont touch; many if not most shops will void warranty in anything to do with driveline/suspension if your tires and/or suspension has been lifted. About the only thing they will generally let slide is a simple body lift.

Now, if you dont care about warranty; then the question becomes what are your plans as to what you want to do with your Jeep.
City driver with a hunting ranch that I take Jeep too during hunting season. Dirt/sandy roads, but no heavy off-roading. My warranty is up, but all I'm looking for is a little more height with some tougher looking tires/wheels.
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If you are going to spend $500 or less look at the 1-2" spacers. The coil lift kits in that price range are mostly disposable and will cause more frustration in the future than pleasure in the present.

The Duratracs are a good all-around and very popular tire so you will probably be very happy with them. Find a good shop to install the lift if you are not going to install yourself.
Thanks for the advice. This is exactly what I wanted to know. I was wondering if going with the coil lifts at this price was a mistake, and it sounds like it may be. I'll probably go with the 2" spacers.
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That may be your experience in Canada, but that is not the case in the US. We actually have laws here to prevent that from happening.
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City driver with a hunting ranch that I take Jeep too during hunting season. Dirt/sandy roads, but no heavy off-roading. My warranty is up, but all I'm looking for is a little more height with some tougher looking tires/wheels.

Then you're golden. Body lifts are often the cheapest; but of course they do nothing for raising the frame above the dirt. Tires; well, there's a myriad of opines to that really. I personally prefer rugged and not too much heavier than what is stock - Jeeps are not Sherman tanks, despite what we like to think on occasion.
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And to answer the OP's question.. For your budget and what you want to do, I also say budget boost or some type of leveling kit.
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Good info here. I was getting ready to post a similar question. So I'll post it here. Any suggestions on quality budget friendly lift kits? Also will a lift kit level my jeep or do I need to install a leveling kit as well?

Thanks for the helping us newbies.
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I just ordered a Teraflex 2.5" lift and will use Rancho 9000xl shocks with it. The kit (no shocks) was under $500. You can get it with shock extenders for just a few dollars more, which will work well for you if you don't do a lot of big time wheeling. At least until you can buy some new shocks.

ETA: the Teraflex kit (and most others, I think) will level out the factory rake.
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I have 33" Duratracs mounted on MB TKO wheels. I have the teraflex COIL leveling kit. Gave me as much height as neighbor who has 2.5" lift. Couldn't be happier (except maybe regretting not getting 35s....)
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