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Old 12-29-2006, 12:24 PM   #1
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Newbie questions on JK

I'm lookin at buying a new JK. I intend to use it around town as well as trips out to the desert. Maybe even some club rides. I have 2 questions oon a new JK.

1. Is Auto better or worse than Manual transmission. I'm leaning auto so my wife can drive the jeep down to the desert while I pull the 5th wheel for camping. She says she could learn a Manual but I'm not sure of that.

2. Buy a fully loaded Rubicon or a plain Jane X (2 door) and add my own add-on's (lifts, tires, etc.). I'm leaning to the X as the price difference is arouind $10K and I'd think that would cover upgrades. And I could get better quality after market?

Any ideas or preferences?

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Old 12-29-2006, 12:46 PM   #2
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As far as the tech stuff is concerned, others will have to answer you.

Personally, I think everyone should know how to drive a stick. If your wife is willing to learn to drive a manual transmission, go for it! I've had auto and manual transmissions and I prefer manual.

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I suppose the stick vs. auto is anyone's personal preference. Personally I do a lot of rock crawling so I love the auto for the deeper gearing and NO STALLING.

As far as the other stuff I think that there are a lot of advantages that the Rubicon JK has over that X. The Tcase is different, the axles are different and there are lockers front and rear also. I believe now it comes with 32" tires standard also. The JK platform is much easier to lift and put bigger tires on however that being said if you bought a Rubicon you would probably be already 90% to where you wanted it to be anyway. I don't know what the Rubicons are going for now, but I saw an ad for them in PHX today for 21 on the standard models.
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:03 PM   #4
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Thanks for the replies.

I went down to the stealer (oops, i mean dealer) and drove a Manual and an Auto. The Auto was soft (to me) and the Manual was much more responsive. So now I'm thinking Manual. It also seemed it would be easy to learn.

We do a little off-roading in the sand on a buggy and I liked the auto for the NO STALLING as well. Decisions?#&*!

I like the tires on the Rubicon and of course the lockers, etc. but I'm still thinking for $10K I could add as I need to the X.
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Thanks for the replies.

I went down to the stealer (oops, i mean dealer) and drove a Manual and an Auto. The Auto was soft (to me) and the Manual was much more responsive. So now I'm thinking Manual. It also seemed it would be easy to learn.

We do a little off-roading in the sand on a buggy and I liked the auto for the NO STALLING as well. Decisions?#&*!

I like the tires on the Rubicon and of course the lockers, etc. but I'm still thinking for $10K I could add as I need to the X.

Listen to 1BLKJP....there's more to it than lockers & tires. Might want to sit down with a catalog and add up modication costs -v- buying an upgraded model. With the Rubicon, most of what you want is there already or at least you have a good start.

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I suppose the stick vs. auto is anyone's personal preference. Personally I do a lot of rock crawling so I love the auto for the deeper gearing and NO STALLING.

As far as the other stuff I think that there are a lot of advantages that the Rubicon JK has over that X. The Tcase is different, the axles are different and there are lockers front and rear also. I believe now it comes with 32" tires standard also. The JK platform is much easier to lift and put bigger tires on however that being said if you bought a Rubicon you would probably be already 90% to where you wanted it to be anyway. I don't know what the Rubicons are going for now, but I saw an ad for them in PHX today for 21 on the standard models.
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There is ALOT more to differences than those. First off, If you get a Manual trans, you will have 3.21 gears. So what you ask??? Well there is NO aftermarket gears for the new axles right now, and also there is NO lockers available just yet. So, you will be wheeling a lifted, big tires JK for at leat a year before you get any lockers, however there should be gears before the middle of the year avail. As for the auto feeling "soft" did you turn off the traction control as you were driving it???? It puts the engine computer into a different control mode that lets the thottle be more responsive, because its not trying to control wheelspin. Trust me, try it. Mine is night and day different with the traction control OFF. Back to the drivetrain..... The NP231 is different also, so dont plan on putting in a tera low kit either. So, Spend the extra $$ and laugh at your friends when you disconnect your swaybar by pushing a button.....


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Old 01-19-2007, 09:23 PM   #7
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Thanks for the responses guy's.
I'm glad I didn't rush out and buy right away. There has
been a lot to learn.
I did not even think of "Traction Control" on the Auto. I will test it again.
I think you can get 4.10 gears and a Dana 44 rear axle with the tow group on an X.
It may be the Rubicon wins out. Getting one may be a bit harder though. I will most likely order through a local dealer. Same guy I bought my truck from. He's not pushy and seems fair. If thats possible in a dealer .
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See, I am so used to the "old" jeeps, I called the new case a 231. Correction, Its a NP241......(DOH!!!)

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The NP231 is different also, so dont plan on putting in a tera low kit either.

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