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Next Gen Wrangler Article (for what its worth)

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Makes sense. You can probably get 75% of the weight reduction by going aluminum hood/doors/tailgate and leaving the tub steel.

I hope they don't mess with the windshield rake or front end too much in search of lower wind resistance.

And while a diesel has some appeal, I'd be happier if they offered a 5.7 Hemi V8.
 
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It's been noted in several articles that the windshield will be fixed and aerodynamics moderately improved. That's going to be very difficult without adding at least 10-15º of rake.

The aluminum doors should make them easier to carry around but the tailgate might force the use of bumper mounted tire carriers for large tires. The hood will really be able to have some serious flutter. :D

This probably also means assembly will stay in Toledo.
 
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They're going to have to increase the windshield rake if they want to make fuel economy numbers. There's no way around it.

I'm sure a lot of people will be pissed off no matter what changes they make.

People have been pissing and moaning about changes to the Jeep since the CJ-3B high hood. I fully expect people to lose their mind when the JK2 comes out.
 
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They're going to have to increase the windshield rake if they want to make fuel economy numbers. There's no way around it.

I'm sure a lot of people will be pissed off no matter what changes they make.

People have been pissing and moaning about changes to the Jeep since the CJ-3B high hood. I fully expect people to lose their mind when the JK2 comes out.
Very true. There was a major uproar back when the JK was introduced, and Jeep fans threw a collective temper tantrum over the raked back front grill.

To me the worse design mistake was with the TJ. It wasn't until the very end that someone suddenly noticed that they forgot the parking/signal lights on the grill. So, at the very last minute, they had to tack them onto the fenders. :)
 
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hope they put that 8spd transmission on the 3.6...they have already on the dodge ram 1500. My boss has one and he is getting 12L/100km on average.
 
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JKs ride quality covers the whole spectrum, from mile to wild, from 2-door to 4-door, from Sport to Rubicon, from stock to Bilsteins, from street to mud treads, from 31-inch Goodyears to 37-inch Swampers, from 2-ply Wranglers to 10-ply Grabbers, from no-lift to $5,000 lifts.

Trying to categorize the "Wrangler ride" is pointless. Best we can do is describe what it is we have, and whether we like our particular setup or not.

Aldo
 
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I'll say this (because I know Jeep is listening intently anytime I speak) IF the MY2018 Wrangler ends up Steel Tub on a Steel frame with Alu-min-ium Doors, Hood and Tail Gate then..... as long as you:
- Don't dick anything up
- Rust inhibit the Steel Parts better than you do now
- Make sure the Metalurgists approve the "love" between parts
- Keep Everything that makes it a Real "Jeep"
- Improve some stuff (You pick)

I'm cool with it. :)

Like I said though, Don't Dick it Up.

Note: In an attempt at detante' because I know You are like French or Italian now, when I say "Don't Dick it up" what I really mean is..... it has another word that is four(4) letters and begins with a harder consonant and ends with a "k" and it means "Don't Fook" it up, ok?
You have a long history of sorta doing that so, time is now to make a Big Change and put on your Big Boy pants, drop the Double Frap0chino latte' grande supreme and

Don't F--K OUR Jeep Up, K?
 
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^ What he said - X10.

aluminum doors, door hinges, and stainless steel body hinges would finally fix the hinge bubbling issues.

They do not need to make it achieve high mpg numbers, they need to hit those numbers overall, which is why the little gas sipper cars are key to balancing it out. Not that I'd complain about better mileage, but there's a reason we bought Wranglers and not Renegades/Cherokees/Fiat/etc.
 
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I seem to recall reading about a Jeep engineer saying that they could build a solid axle for light vehicles that rode better than comparable IFS vehicles. I wish I could find that article now...
 
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