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Old 10-16-2013, 02:27 AM   #1
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Nitto Trail Grappler vs. Terra Grappler

Ok so im looking for some help with buying tires. Preferably if you have personal experience with either tire. Im pretty much set on the Trail or Terra Grapplers, both 295/70/18

The Trails are obviously going to be much more effective for wheeling but Ill be completely honest, I dont go much. This is my daily driver. They look amazing and are far more aggressive. Where I'm buying them from they're only $164 more for a set of 4. ($1140 vs $976)

The Terras will probably get through all I can throw at them here in Vegas and snowboarding trips to Utah. The downside to them is that they're just not that aggressive looking, very "blah". Not sure if they'll give me the look I want

So now my question. Which one and why or what comparable tires in that price range and why? Ready GO!

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I've owned both...Terra's are awesome and will do 95% of what you ever need. The Trails are loud and tend to wander at highway speeds...they would be for that other 5%.

I will buy Nitto Terra's again and again....Trails would be only if I had a dedicated off road rig.

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I recently got my terra grapplers so no trail use yet, but I will say that, for a daily driver, they're not noticeably louder than stock tires and from what I hear get great tread life.

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Tooney, I'm having the same problem. I love the look of the Trails, but I know I will never need a tire that aggressive. The Terra's do have great tread life. I'm more worried about them being heavy, E-Rated tires. I've got a inquiry into Nitto for tire weights for both. Anyone have any pics of either?


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Get duratracs. They are the best of both worlds.
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Ditto on the duratracs. Light, aggressive looking, quiet on the road, and as a bonus, about as good as you can get in the snow
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Instead of being disrespectful and mention a tire not in the discussion (dura kool-aid), TRAILS get my vote. Their corresponding sizes have an identical load index number negating any advantage that the terra might have.
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Get duratracs. They are the best of both worlds.
I like the duratracs, but I dont want to change from a 18" to a 17" wheel right now to get the size I want (295/70r18 or 315/70r17). I know wheel spacers will cost me half of what new wheels will, but I can sell them later and recoup most of their cost.

295/70r18 Terra's (set of 5) ~$1200
295/70r18 Trail's (set of 5 ) ~$1400
Wheel spacers - $200
17" wheel Duratrac's (set of 5) ~$1200-$1400 depending on size comparable to 295/70r18
Wheels - $400 (stock 17's per craigslist average, with wheel spacers) - $500 (cheapest new set of 5 with correct offset)

One could argue that the lighter weight of the duratracs would save you the ~$200 in gas over their lifetime, but that is highly debatable and unlikely.



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I like the duratracs, but I dont want to change from a 18" to a 17" wheel right now to get the size I want (295/70r18 or 315/70r17). I know wheel spacers will cost me half of what new wheels will, but I can sell them later and recoup most of their cost.

295/70r18 Terra's (set of 5) ~$1200
295/70r18 Trail's (set of 5 ) ~$1400
Wheel spacers - $200
17" wheel Duratrac's (set of 5) ~$1200-$1400 depending on size comparable to 295/70r18
Wheels - $400 (stock 17's per craigslist average, with wheel spacers) - $500 (cheapest new set of 5 with correct offset)

One could argue that the lighter weight of the duratracs would save you the ~$200 in gas over their lifetime, but that is highly debatable and unlikely.



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Just to put things in perspective, my 315 duratracs WITH wheels (mounted, balanced, and shipped) come out to $1882. You can offload your stocks on craigslist or the forums, and make up the difference. Just a thought. You are going to spend $1400 on tires alone, then whatever it costs to mount/balance them (probably $125) so the difference really isn't that big.
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Terra's are 65lbs
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Thanks for the input. Looks like ill probably go with the Terra's. Ive looked into the duratracs but they're not the size I want and even at a smaller size they're still more expensive
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I put the terra's on mine last Friday so i can't tell you much on wear and tear. but I will say this they drive great and it actually seems to handle better IMHO. I like the look a lot also I went from stock 255 to 285/70/17.
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I went with the Terras as well and am very happy with them. Attempting to post a pic:
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I went with the Terras as well and am very happy with them. Attempting to post a pic:
Looks great. What size tires?
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Looks great. What size tires?
Thanks. They're 325x60x18
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On a slightly unrelated note, my fried put new tires on his 2010 F150. They are Terra Grappler 34" tires on his new 18" rims because he simply couldn't argue the price. Not TOO aggressive, but he says that they're almost as quiet as the Michelin's he upgraded from, but that the ride is very firm. Can be fixed with different shocks.. But the tires also slowed his truck down a little. Looking at them in his truck, they're pretty sweet. Can't go wrong either way IMO.
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Terra 295/70/18 here. Love them. Had to play with the air pressure to get the tread flat on the ground since I am running on the stock wheels, but once you figure that out, the ride really smooths out.
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I have Trails 295/70/17.... Look great, rides great and have no issues at highway speeds. They do hum but not loud and I like it. If I had wanted a quiet ride I would of bought a Prius.
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Raythom3 and NYJets, any chance for pics and pressures?


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I have the 305/70/17 Terra Grapplers and love them. Right now I have about 13,000 miles on them and they still look new.

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Raythom3 and NYJets, any chance for pics and pressures?
x2. Im keeping my stock Sahara 18s which are great looking wheels. No need to spend the extra $$ on new wheels
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I am running big trail grapplers and so far I really like them. They are quieter than my toyos and do really well in the mud. Just waiting to see how they hold up in snow.
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I have 2k miles on 305x70x17 Terra Grapplers with Rubicon Express 2.5" coil system. Tire weighs 60lbs. Great experience so far on and off road. Hope to get snow this winter!
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Terras do tend to last a while. I have a set of 285-55-20 on my duramax with 57,000 mi on them and I think I can get at least another 10k out of them. New, they were super quiet, now they do talk a little.
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3 1/2 Rubicon Express Lift and 295/70/18's Terra Grapplers on the stock rims.
As far as Tire Pressure goes, when I left Discount Tire's they had them with about 40lbs in them, when I got home I lowered to 35 and noticed that they were not wearing flat on the pavement so I started lowering them to find out where they would wear the best and found that 30lbs is about right. I do raise them back to 35-36 lbs if I am traveling any long highway distances to help with the MPG's but 30 seems to be the most comfortable ride. When out on the trails I lower them down to about 15 which makes the rocky trails out here a little more torelable.
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I have Trails 295/70/17.... Look great, rides great and have no issues at highway speeds. They do hum but not loud and I like it. If I had wanted a quiet ride I would of bought a Prius.
I got the same ones and riding on 33"... hum noise? Not this guy. Highway speeds aren't a bother. I'm actually looking to get into 37" and re-gearing to 5.13's. Gonna be the best mod ever.

My buddy has the Terra's and wished he bought the Trails. Nothing worse than buyer's remorse. Just saying...

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