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Old 10-17-2012, 12:50 PM   #31
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What kind of rear axle does a 2WD JK have? A D30? What is the gear ratio on it? 3.21?

Leave it as is and enjoy...or sell it and buy a 4WD version.

What is the re-sale value on a 2WD JK converted to 4WD in someone's driveway?

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no one needs these stupid electronics anyway.

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I would imagine that the OP will lose money on trading.

The OP will lose value when a vehicle is significantly altered to non factory specifications. Conversion of a 2wd to 4wd is one such alteration. I wouldn't buy an owner conversion unless I knew the owner's work personally and had no intention of registering it as a street legal vehicle.

That said, time is money and the costs of the conversion assume that the OP has every tool needed, dedicated garage space, lifts, compressor, the necessary infrastructure, the knowledge, the personal experience, and the free time to do the work. All of these variables cost a lot of cash and factor into the equation.

Plenty of people start building dream vehicles and give up. Auto Trader magazines have plenty of abandoned dreams for sale.
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no one needs these stupid electronics anyway.
Many do if it is going to be registered and operated on public roads.
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Well to be honest, Im not looking for rock crawling of heavy off roading... I hunt and the land I go to does get pretty muddy and nasty and I need some sort of 4 Wheel drive... Am I to understand that there is a way I can lock the front axle in cheaper than doing a full transfer to 4X4?

Im sure you guys are throwing up right now at my posts lol Im not a hardcore off road guy, but am seeing the need for it so i wanted to get something..full disclosure...I got stuck on my hunting land...and had to get pulled out by a pickup...
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Well to be honest, Im not looking for rock crawling of heavy off roading... I hunt and the land I go to does get pretty muddy and nasty and I need some sort of 4 Wheel drive... Am I to understand that there is a way I can lock the front axle in cheaper than doing a full transfer to 4X4?

Im sure you guys are throwing up right now at my posts lol Im not a hardcore off road guy, but am seeing the need for it so i wanted to get something..full disclosure...I got stuck on my hunting land...and had to get pulled out by a pickup...
There is no front differential for 2wd JK's so there's nothing to lock up front. Basically, 4X4 or 2wd passenger vehicle. You can get a kit to lock the rear but then you basically have old school "posi". You can lock the rear but without the front pulling I think you're spending over 1K for no real benefit. It's not going to help as much as you think. Just admit you jumped in too fast and realize now that you need 4wd. So, sell or trade the 2wd and get something with 4wd, whether it's a JK, pick up or something else you might like. If you don't think a Wrangler is for you get something else. No hurt feelings. They're not for everyone. For what you indicate that you might use it for you most likely don't need front & rear lockers. 4WD should be fine. Good luck.
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Trade it to a dealer on a newer JK - they may not even notice it is 2WD. Seriously.

They will run the VIN. It will be noticed.

Dude, if you want 4WD, trade it and just consider the expense the price for a lesson learned,...and then enjoy your new Jeep...instead of living with regret for years.
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2 to 4wd conversions are done on a regular basis for full size vans. Quigley 4x4 is the largest provider of these conversions and they do Chevy, Ford, and Nissan. Going price is $10-15k, with warranty.

I'd estimate the cost of a do-it-yourself conversion to be in the $7k dollar range and you get no warranty, in fact you'll likely void whatever warranty it may have left. It isn't just the big ticket items (axle, transfercase, driveshafts) that raise the price. It's all the little crap you have to buy to do it right.

Interior trim pieces, transfer case linkages, shifter & knob, computer wiring harnesses, the entire front suspension is different so you'll need half of a lift kit, steering components, brake components, computer time at the dealership to get it to play nice with the dash lights, bolts, nuts, screws, fluids, etc, etc, etc.

It certainly can be done. Another option would be to buy a 4X with a wrecked rear half.

All of this assumes that you put no value on the original posters time, and it assumes that the OP has the technical skills to pull it off and can be without the vehicle for the 2-4 weeks or more of nights and weekends it would take to get it done.

My honest opinion is that if you don't understand the amount of work involved in doing the conversion, than you are way over your head. It could be a great learning experience, but you need the time (lots of time) to work through all the mistakes you'll make along the way.

Good luck whichever route you take.

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OP I'm in the same boat as you. I bought a JKU and knew that it was 2wd but realized I would be doing a lot of miles for school (out of state college) so it was good for my needs. In my opinion you can get through mud just as well as a 4wd in 2wd if you know what your doing. I have a RK 2.5" lift and 33s now but before I was all stock with highway tires (here's a before and after) I went to my buddy's house and he lives out in the sticks. His driveway is .4 miles long and all dirt. It rained the night before and had no trouble getting through it. (Louisiana sloppy mud) I'm getting an LSD for my next add on but here's a pic of me after I got through it and back home. Didn't get stuck and basically crawled through in 2nd gear cause I didn't wanna mess up my suspension. I would get a locker (ARB or Elocker) and some mud terrains and call it a day. Just my .02. Good luck and keep us updated!
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OP I'm in the same boat as you. I bought a JKU and knew that it was 2wd but realized I would be doing a lot of miles for school (out of state college) so it was good for my needs. In my opinion you can get through mud just as well as a 4wd in 2wd if you know what your doing. I have a RK 2.5" lift and 33s now but before I was all stock with highway tires (here's a before and after) I went to my buddy's house and he lives out in the sticks. His driveway is .4 miles long and all dirt. It rained the night before and had no trouble getting through it. (Louisiana sloppy mud) I'm getting an LSD for my next add on but here's a pic of me after I got through it and back home. Didn't get stuck and basically crawled through in 2nd gear cause I didn't wanna mess up my suspension. I would get a locker (ARB or Elocker) and some mud terrains and call it a day. Just my .02. Good luck and keep us updated!


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Isn't a brand new base with 4 wheel about 22.5K?
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sell it to someone on craigslist, no one will know its 4x2
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The term 'easy' can have vastly different meanings on a forum like this. For a mechanic, this is an easy swap because there is nothing to be machined, honed, milled or fabricated... it's just bolting stuff together. But, that doesn't mean it won't take a good deal of time - and your lack of knowledge means you'll either have to pay to get it done right, or have some drunk buddy do it, then take it somewhere and get it paid to be done right.

For a late-model like yours, I don't see the cost-benefit making any sense. To mess with a clunker for some fun, maybe... but you are going to end up with something no one will want to buy...
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I got a sweet deal on it... 2009 unlimited X with 54K miles for $15,000...Lady getting rid of her ex-husbands car after a divorce. So you guys figure more than 3K to change it over?...if so ill probably just trade it for a 4x4 model
Sell or trade it and use the money to fund a 4x4.
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Isn't a brand new base with 4 wheel about 22.5K?
Seen them for 19.5 at a dealer south of Boston.
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sell it to someone on craigslist, no one will know its 4x2

Wow! 15 meaningless posts within 16 minutes, you're a busy lil' troll.

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The term 'easy' can have vastly different meanings on a forum like this. For a mechanic, this is an easy swap because there is nothing to be machined, honed, milled or fabricated... it's just bolting stuff together. But, that doesn't mean it won't take a good deal of time - and your lack of knowledge means you'll either have to pay to get it done right, or have some drunk buddy do it, then take it somewhere and get it paid to be done right.

For a late-model like yours, I don't see the cost-benefit making any sense. To mess with a clunker for some fun, maybe... but you are going to end up with something no one will want to buy...
Not all my drunk buddies mess stuff up when working on it.
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Not all my drunk buddies mess stuff up when working on it.
Can we trade? Buddies I mean, not Jeeps...
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Wow! 15 meaningless posts within 16 minutes, you're a busy lil' troll.

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you need 15 posts to post on classifieds, and define meaningless? like your comment saying mine is meaningless....?
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you need 15 posts to post on classifieds, and define meaningless? like your comment saying mine is meaningless....?
And to get the ability to post something for sale you make a post suggesting someone pull some shiesty shit like trying to slip a 4x2 past a buyer because they might not notice?

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sell it to someone on craigslist, no one will know its 4x2
So your post wasn't meaningless. You just wanted to give everyone a heads up by saying "hey I'm an asshole and will rip your ass off if I can."
Good job and GL with your sale,



To the OP, sell it and buy a 4x4 if you want. Much less hassle than trying to go that route. I had an auto to manual swap done in a BMW years ago and not only was it pricey it just never seemed to be right.
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Holy crap there is so much wrong info in this thread

To make a 4wd bare minimum you are at 1200 if you do all the work yourself and use used parts and it is pretty straight forward

No electronics involved

But while you do have a loose axle you Should go ahead and beef it up ( which will bump up your price ) , ball joints , sleeve and gusset and regear , you will save a lot on labor since you have a loose axle
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