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Old 01-06-2010, 07:17 AM   #31
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Newbie question - does the use of a flashpak, etc. have any impact on the factory warranty? Thanks for any input.

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Newbie question - does the use of a flashpak, etc. have any impact on the factory warranty? Thanks for any input.
Manufacturers and dealers are doing their best to make money; this includes saving money where they can.
Part of their approach is to discourage shadetree mechanics, mod-fever, and any other activity that blemishes their perfect design.
In fact, it's illegal to mod your vehicle like we do in most other countries ---- and the manufacturers love that...

So, ask yourself that question again.
The short answer is that each dealer will look at it differently. Some will cover you and some won't. It all depends on how they word the work order and what their dealer-culture is all about.

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Old 01-06-2010, 10:11 AM   #33
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this has been one of the funest threads to go through! thanks for all the vidio Bill, I was taking notes!


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Has anyone tried the Sprint Booster or a Superchip or a engine mod of any kind to help wake this engine up?
I have a SuperChip, bought it after putting 33 inch M/Ts on my 09 unlimited. Running the 93 octane program gives me more power then I had with the stock 31 inch tires. In town I have plenty of acceleration, but on the highway even slight hills make my autotrans drop out of overdirive. I have 3.73 gears and am in the process of re-gearing to 4.56 gears.
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:20 PM   #34
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It's a jeep, it will get there when it gets there. Slow down and enjoy the ride is my motto!

Besides, the ticket money you save will help pay for gas!
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:46 PM   #35
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Besides, you don't know slow until you've caravanned or wheeled with Unimogs.
I wheel with these two guys often and they call me a gazelle and they're elephants...



Here's a youtube of some mogs:
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:44 PM   #36
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Newbie question - does the use of a flashpak, etc. have any impact on the factory warranty? Thanks for any input.
The key is how crooked is your dealer!! A tuner should only void a warranty if the tuner caused the problem and it is up to the MFG to prove that the tuner caused the problem. I have been through this with a tuner on my Diesel truck and GM told the dealer to fix my truck under warranty even though the dealer did not want to. This is the same thing for any mod we do to our vehicles, it can void the warranty, but the mod had to cause the problem...
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Old 01-07-2010, 06:23 AM   #37
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Super. Thanks to all for the warranty input!
I'm fine with it around the city and most times. On trips through the hills the constant downshifting and engine noise can become exhausting, though...
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:24 PM   #38
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It's been two weeks now and I quess I am getting use to the 2010 Sahara. The engine power doesn't seem too bad now. I've been using it to go to work 30 miles in one direction and getting about 17 mpg traveling at 70 mph. Of course its all highway miles. Its a lot better than the 11 mpg I was getting on the H2. The thing looks so pretty just sitting there is hard not to love it. I'm amazed at the quality of the paint job as well as the fit and finish of the body. Who said Americans can't make a quality product.
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Old 01-09-2010, 06:26 AM   #39
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I see you are on your way to becoming a true convert! Give it a few more months, you'll see that you'll even begin to love your jeep for it's flaws too!
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It's been two weeks now and I quess I am getting use to the 2010 Sahara. The engine power doesn't seem too bad now. I've been using it to go to work 30 miles in one direction and getting about 17 mpg traveling at 70 mph. Of course its all highway miles. Its a lot better than the 11 mpg I was getting on the H2. The thing looks so pretty just sitting there is hard not to love it. I'm amazed at the quality of the paint job as well as the fit and finish of the body. Who said Americans can't make a quality product.
when I bought mine, I was very impressed with the quality paint job and fit and finish of the body. My favorite vechicle to drive of the many I have owned.
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I have had my '10 Rubicon 6 spd for about a month now and really like it This Jeep is underpowered by about 10-15% if you ask me, one would think that a simple exhaust mod and a few other simple/cheap tweaks would do the trick. An extra 15-30 hp would go a long way. This is a Jeep and is not supposed to go fast, in fact it is quite possible that this is done on purpose....but I agree it does need a bit of a boost for the highway passing/hills etc.

This is kinda hilarious...I have had my share of cars over the years, from supercars all the way down to the original Suziki 4x4. My favorite was my old '87 VW Syncro 4x4 pick-up truck, and this thing was so underpowered I had to time my passing from waaaay back (like 20 car lengths) just to get by. On the other hand I have taken that damn thing into spots where a mule could not get in/up.
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Old 01-17-2010, 04:24 AM   #42
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I have had my '10 Rubicon 6 spd for about a month now and really like it This Jeep is underpowered by about 10-15% if you ask me, one would think that a simple exhaust mod and a few other simple/cheap tweaks would do the trick. An extra 15-30 hp would go a long way. This is a Jeep and is not supposed to go fast, in fact it is quite possible that this is done on purpose....but I agree it does need a bit of a boost for the highway passing/hills etc.

This is kinda hilarious...I have had my share of cars over the years, from supercars all the way down to the original Suziki 4x4. My favorite was my old '87 VW Syncro 4x4 pick-up truck, and this thing was so underpowered I had to time my passing from waaaay back (like 20 car lengths) just to get by. On the other hand I have taken that damn thing into spots where a mule could not get in/up.
I have been used to downshifting one gear and trying to pass and have been left wanting to get by the intended car to be passed. As I have gotten to know my jeep better, I now tend to downshift two and punch it and it does get up and go. It is no speed demon and that is not why I own it but I have been happy with it's power and also with it's economy, given what it has for a power plant. Would it have been nice having a larger engine? Yah, but I don't think it was in the cards given the fleet fuel economy goals at the time. Given the drive to decrease pollution across the board on all manufactures, I don't think we will see too many gas guzzling muscle cars like we have seen in the good ole 70s (circa).
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This is a short video of us and some friends last weekend. See if you can guess which JKs were reageared, especially the big red one toward the end.
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