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Old 06-19-2007, 10:09 PM   #31
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just to be a wise a** isnt the rubicon t-case the same? heheh
ROFLMAO. Actually NO ITS NOT. It has a different input shaft spline count, CABLE SHIFT, and no stupid little ballancer thingie on the output shaft, no speedo sensor in the tail housing. But what do I know????

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Then if you don't like the advice you get, call your dealer. Sorry that the FREE advice that people are giving you just hasn't been good enough.
Its one thing IF the advise is VALID. If its not, then its worth nothing. Kinda like me telling you about how to adjust "V" belts on your TJ. Oh wait, they stopped that in the YJ. I dont think he was meaning to piss anyone off, but you have to realize here that people post up questions on the JK because they have a question they need answered. If your TJ is all you have Jeep experiance with, thats great. Just dont assume that it all pertains to any other Wrangler, wheather its a CJ, YJ or JK. This is one of the only Jeeps in the history to have a COMPLETE redesign with no sharing of parts. Not even the ZJ/WJ was this drastic. Its a new learnig curve for everyone, and will take time to learn. I own a JK, TJ, and a ZJ and an XJ right now. The only thing they have in common is the word "JEEP" on them. I really hope that people can understand just how frusterating it is to get/give incorrect information when you are searching for something. Its VERY rampant in the internet world right now, and because 80% of JK owners are new to the Jeep world, the info you give just makes everyone more confused.

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Old 06-19-2007, 10:56 PM   #33
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sure would hate to scratch your paint
Not afraid to scratch the paint on my JK. Lets meet up and run Die Hard or Axle Alley out here in PHX. You bring your TJ and I will follow in the JK. A fun day for all, I am sure!!! Just call me at the shop, and I can make arrangements to take the day off so we can wheel. I m sure there would be good pictures for all!!!


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Hey I found some things they have in common

Both have:

Tires
seats
engine
t-case (4wd models)
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Its one thing IF the advise is VALID. If its not, then its worth nothing. Kinda like me telling you about how to adjust "V" belts on your TJ. Oh wait, they stopped that in the YJ. I dont think he was meaning to piss anyone off, but you have to realize here that people post up questions on the JK because they have a question they need answered. If your TJ is all you have Jeep experiance with, thats great. Just dont assume that it all pertains to any other Wrangler, wheather its a CJ, YJ or JK. This is one of the only Jeeps in the history to have a COMPLETE redesign with no sharing of parts. Not even the ZJ/WJ was this drastic. Its a new learnig curve for everyone, and will take time to learn. I own a JK, TJ, and a ZJ and an XJ right now. The only thing they have in common is the word "JEEP" on them. I really hope that people can understand just how frusterating it is to get/give incorrect information when you are searching for something. Its VERY rampant in the internet world right now, and because 80% of JK owners are new to the Jeep world, the info you give just makes everyone more confused.

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No, he wasn't trying to piss any one off but to come to a discussion board populated by a bunch of people who don't get paid to offer advice and commentary and complain that "oh my god, you don't know everything" is asinine.
If you want guaranteed correct answers then take it to damn mechanic and pay money.
Almost every question in every forum on this site gets multiple answers, some are right, some are wrong, it's up to the person asking the question to sift through and find the information they need or ask more questions. That's the only price people are required to pay to get what usually ends up being very valuable information from a site like this.
I stopped being a grease monkey when they started putting computers in cars, I walked away and never thought to go back to it but I still have some information left in what's left of my brain, when I see something I think I know the answer to I try to help. Sometimes I'm right, some times I'm wrong, when I'm wrong somebody will come along and correct me in short order, I learn something and the original poster gets his or her answer.
I'f I'm right., I feel pretty damn good because I had a chance to repay some of the help I've received here.
It's how boards like this survive, because they damn well can't afford to hire certified mechanics to sit around 24/7 to answer questions.
I promise I will not respond to any more threads dealing with JK's since it's so very irritating to you folks that own them.
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I am new in here and don't wish to tick any one off but I would think that most people would know if you have a different engine the mods to the engine that other people have done wouldn't work...simply because it's a differnt engine not because it's a Jk, CJ, etc.
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Skeet, I agree, it was a dick move to post something like this. A mass whipping is never a good idea on a forum. But I also agree it's tough to wade through the wrong answers, especially when you're new to whatever you're working on.

Coming from the stand point of someone who's mechanical knowledge is limited to the few things I've done, I can say it is difficult when there are a thousand answers and only two that pertain to what I'm doing. But, of course that's the chance you take getting your information for free off the net.

So, to the JKers, cut the rest of us a little slack, since we're just trying to help. Put your waders on like the rest of us have to and don't think that you're going to be immune to getting the wrong answers. And to the rest, realize it's a different beast and understand the frustration since we've all felt it at one point or another.
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The one thing that shines above a lot of other forums here, is the simple fact that people do try hard to answer questions. And they do so without smart remarks. No one gets flamed for being a newb, and so on. Personally, I know I have answered questions, before I noticed what type of Jeep the person had. I have been corrected before, and I am sure I will make more mistakes down the road. The main point I am trying to make, is that it is easy to answer a post, without seeing the category it is in. Especially when you just hit the "New Posts" tab. You have to at least give this forum an "A" for the effort everyone puts in to answering posts. There are so many places to get the answers to any question, here on the Internet. Research has become one of the easiest things to accomplish, due to the net. From a personal side, I know I wouldn't have asked any questions on here, when I built my YJ. That would just be silly, even though I have learned that there are people on here, that are very knowledgeable, in that area. But here again, when it comes to my stuff, I do my own research, and get the results, I want, instead of getting someone else's results. But that is just me, I am very head strong when it comes to my own stuff.
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I am new in here and don't wish to tick any one off but I would think that most people would know if you have a different engine the mods to the engine that other people have done wouldn't work...simply because it's a differnt engine not because it's a Jk, CJ, etc.
Specific mods may not work but the concepts behind them usually translate.
Internal combustion engines are internal combustion engines whether they are I6 I4 V6 or opposed 4, they still work on the same principles.
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That's what you get when you start bitching about only certain people who own or work on certain things should answer. I'm pretty sure Bluevikng could give a reasonably intelligent answer to the question. Most of us here have seen or taken part in the discussions of drop pitman arms and can give reasonably intelligent answers but hey, the JK's have nothing in common with TJ's or YJ's do they?
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I am almost sure that Blueviking could have as well, I was not asking for people that don't own JKs to not answer questions. I asked people that don't have experience with this model or know the answer to the question about this model to not post what is needed on other models. For example, and i am sure someone will correct me if i am wrong... With the prior models, you needed to lift your rig to clear 33in tires. with the JK Rubicon, i can clear 33s with no lift. 2in, get me 35s. Unless you actually knew the answer, your TJ comparison wouldn't apply.

I know that basic cumbustion engine principles apply. As well as other basic principles but after that, i would just like to see answers to questions be answered for JKs not with what was done on a TJ or a YJ cause they are different jeeps with completely different parts.

Again, I am not trying to piss anybody off and i am sorry that I did.
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Don't worry about me, I'm not pissed at you.
I just think you're cutting off a source of information when there's absolutely no need.
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No, he wasn't trying to piss any one off but to come to a discussion board populated by a bunch of people who don't get paid to offer advice and commentary and complain that "oh my god, you don't know everything" is asinine.
If you want guaranteed correct answers then take it to damn mechanic and pay money.
Almost every question in every forum on this site gets multiple answers, some are right, some are wrong, it's up to the person asking the question to sift through and find the information they need or ask more questions. That's the only price people are required to pay to get what usually ends up being very valuable information from a site like this.
I stopped being a grease monkey when they started putting computers in cars, I walked away and never thought to go back to it but I still have some information left in what's left of my brain, when I see something I think I know the answer to I try to help. Sometimes I'm right, some times I'm wrong, when I'm wrong somebody will come along and correct me in short order, I learn something and the original poster gets his or her answer.
I'f I'm right., I feel pretty damn good because I had a chance to repay some of the help I've received here.
It's how boards like this survive, because they damn well can't afford to hire certified mechanics to sit around 24/7 to answer questions.
I promise I will not respond to any more threads dealing with JK's since it's so very irritating to you folks that own them.

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I think you spelled asinine wrong.....two s's.....ass..

I think all owners of TJ's,YJ's and CJ's should mind your
own business when it comes to the JK's.
Apparently this automobile is way too technical with all it's computer parts,etc,etc,etc........for the
common folk...........stick to whatcha know..........
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I think you spelled asinine wrong.....two s's.....ass..
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Or were you calling me an ass?
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SMOOCHIES....hahahahaha....

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Well hell at least this thread is getting some major attention to the JK Forum.

The basic TJ principles for the DPA don't apply for the JK either. The steering box is different, the steering setup is also different. It's actually more of a hi-steer setup with a full tie rod.

First time I saw a JK DPA, I kind of did a double take until we got it on the lift and were able to study it all.
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I can honestly say, I'm glad I don't own a JK. Since the seats fall out, the trans' leak like a sive, the computer controls every thing and I can't even lift it to put 33's on it.

I do have to say I'm glad my TJ is so simple and everyone figured out all its faults before I bought mine.
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[QUOTE=4point;94313]I can't even lift it to put 33's on it.QUOTE]


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im new in the wf town, but in my humble opinion simmersm, i think your just unnecessarily burning bridges.

i mean i understand where your frustration is coming from, but this wasn't really necessary. Just ask a question, and if you get an answer from a non jk owner, check your jeep, see if its the same, if its not, then both of you learned something, and everybody wins. on the other hand, it could be the same (im sure not EVERYTHING has changed on the jk, im sure a lot has, but every little thing... i dunno) and now you got a quick answer.

im just saying relax a little, read the replies from other members, if it doesnt pertain, say something like "oh thanks, but on these new jk's, its totally different. thanks anyway though" or something. i dunno...

i just want us all to get along!
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The guy made one frustrated post and half of you are all up his caboose. He apologized for it and you still have your panties in a wad.

I am new Jeep owner and I’ve been lurking here for a couple of weeks soaking up info. I thought this forum was better than the rest friendlier and informative until I came across this thread. I own a JK and I could give a rat’s ass who responds to a question I might have; you never know when the info given in that answer might come in handy.

And for the love of Pete take some midol and stop shoving a group of owners in to the time out corner because one post made you feel your feedback was not appreciated. That’s total Jr. High crap.
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I'm starting to feel like any usefullness this thread originally had has gone by the wayside. And I personally don't see the need for it to go on much longer.

Also, if anyone here thinks this forum is just like the rest of them - sorry, you're wrong. Try posting something like this up on any other forum and you'll see why we're different. We won't all get along all of the time but we damn sure get along better than 99% of the other forums you'll find out there.

In case you couldn't tell...my vote is to lock this one down.
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I'm all for "No one waves" topic of conversation,at least we were all in agreement on that one.
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I'm in agreement. This threads usefullness has been worn out.

I'm closing it.

TJ/YJ owners can get along with JK owners in the same manner that we had back in 96 when the TJ was introduced. Everyone may now return to their regular happy existence on Wrangler Forum.

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