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Old 06-19-2007, 09:18 AM   #1
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I know that y'all are just trying to help but the JK is completely and totally different than the TJ/YJ/CJ. There ahs been alot of posts put on the JK threds about the other vehicles. Unless you know for sure the answer to a question that a JK owner or future JK owner is asking, please do not chime in. Case in point, I asked about a Cold Air Intake for my JK and somewhere along the line there were pictures about a TJ throttle body on the thread. It is all well and good to talk about your throttle bodies and how you bored them... just please take it to the TJ section for a couple reasons

1. different engines.. doesn't apply to this jeep
2. if there is someone looking for this info for a TJ, then they probably won't look in the JK thread for for an intake.

unless it is an opinionated question like what color looks best or something to that aspect please don't post a reply about your TJ/YJ

This is not meant as a shot at anybody, I just have to question my sanity everytime i ask a questions and i am getting answers about a TJ or a YJ.

JK owners can only share one part with the other jeeps and that is tires.... thats it.... JKs have totally different requirements than the other jeeps.

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Then if you don't like the advice you get, call your dealer. Sorry that the FREE advice that people are giving you just hasn't been good enough.
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Hope you handful of JK owners can help each other out. You may have just alienated the rest of the forum members.
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Don't be too hard on him guys. He is absolutely correct. The only part of the JK that's the same is the logo. Absolutely everything else is different. When Hackle, Joe, and I did all of the work on Joe's we just stood there for awhile looking at it on the rack and were amazed at how completely different it is. Then you move on to the ESP setup and you become even more bewildered. If Joe wasn't a mechanic and didn't have a his zoomy Snap-On scanner tool we would've been completely lost when dealing with the electronics at first.
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i am sorry if i came accross as i dick, that was not my intensions. It is just hard to read through all of the posts, and have to bypass have of them because they don't apply. When i pick up a TJ/YJ/CJ as a trail rig, i will be picking the heads of the same group of owners for answers. i have been around the 4.0 for about 10 years and nothing i know about it applies to my new jeep with the 3.8.

I do appreciate the advice, if i didn't then i wouldn't have joined and been asking the questions. It is just hard for a new guy to jeeps to look at a picture wonder why his part doesn't look like the one on the forum.

Again, i am sorry if i ticked anybody off

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Old 06-19-2007, 01:25 PM   #8
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Thanks, i just hope to have as much knowlege one day about the JK that the people that i pissed off know about theirs...
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:28 PM   #9
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Aww jeeze guys, play nice will ya?

One thing to remember on a message board is that people can't see your face and they can't hear the frustration in your voice. We have to wade through the words to find the meaning so I suggest a little tact when it comes to writing and remembering that for some reason, many times, we come off sounding a lot more hostile than was meant.

That goes for the whole board so I'm not pointing my little cannon at you simmersm. We all get our hackles up when there was no need.

(just be glad I never stumbled into any of your threads if your problem is bypassing responses )
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:42 PM   #10
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I suppose it would be like when the TJs came out and people didn't know what to think about the coils instead of the leaf springs. at least with that, they shared an engines.
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Matt,

I hope you realize that I typed out this really long response to your dilemma pointing out the so called "differences" between your precious JK and the thousands of other vehicles it derives its build sheet from. I read my reply again and decided against it due to my past "less than tactful" rambling. I only tell you that so I don't feel robbed against this thread.

Having said that I will just say I hope you have a wonderful day!
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:48 PM   #12
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Ya you have a good point but if people with tj's didn't give people with jk's help you would not get many answers to your ?'s because there arn't many people with jk's. Also they might be 2 different jeeps but there still is stuff that applies to both of them.
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That site might suit your needs a little better,its "JK all day-all the time"....when I was deciding what Wrangler to get...that site was very useful.
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I guess I should keep my mechanical education to myself since I have a TJ

J/K I know what you mean. A lot of these guys are technicians though, and can "Cross platform" since they have seen all this technology on other vehicles before. At the same time, there is a difference in a technician helping, and a DIY'er posting a pic of a homemade intake for a 4.0 to help with a seatbelt issue (just an example).

I think us TJ owners are still getting a little used to being the "old jeep" now, thats all
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So basically JK's aren't real Jeeps and those of us with real Jeeps shouldn't talk about em because people who buy Jk's can't tell the difference between a real Jeep and a JK? got it.


Seriously, when I come here I usually just hit the "todays topics" link, it takes too long to surf forum by forum but it also makes it a little more difficult to know what forum you're in. If you don't want replies from poeple who don't have JK's make sure you point that out in your post or at least put what rig you own in your siggy.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:35 PM   #16
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i actually am a member of both forums and post most of my questions on both to try and get answers faster and out to more people that might not have thought of the question yet. i hope that people think that i only care about the JKs.. This is far from the truth, i was eyeing up a CJ7 and a YJ this weekend for my trail rig.
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We are playing nice, this could have gotten pretty ugly if we weren't.
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Seriously, when I come here I usually just hit the "todays topics" link, it takes too long to surf forum by forum but it also makes it a little more difficult to know what forum you're in. If you don't want replies from poeple who don't have JK's make sure you point that out in your post or at least put what rig you own in your siggy.[/QUOTE]

I figured i was safe puting my questions about JKs in "JK Thread"... guess not guess i'll have to put model in signiture block.. taken my JK offroad is one thing but i put an hour a day driving backa nd forth to work and can't take the chance of breaking what gets me to work and get paid and i have to park in a parking garage so i am limited to the lift... I am looking for a dedicated trail rig that i can do without if it goes down. Mr. Clifford, it would be like taking your kick ass rig and driving it through washington DC traffic... you just wouldn't do it..
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Well, when I found out he is a STEELERS fan, all is forgiven.

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just to be a wise a** isnt the rubicon t-case the same? heheh
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I helped Joe @ Absolute Offroad lift his JK and was there last week to help install the gears. Everything in the JK is controlled by the computer. We were not even sure that the gear change would not throw it into a limp mode. A JK will do some cool stuff. Like put your foot to the floor on a dirt road the traction control will not let it spin out (for the most part as I am sure you could but you have to work at it).
That said they are very different then the TJ's and YJ's we are all used to. If you take your JK in to have some work done I would suggest you make sure they have worked on a JK before and at least have some understanding of the electronics involved.
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Mr. Clifford, it would be like taking your kick ass rig and driving it through washington DC traffic... you just wouldn't do it..
We won't know if its a kick ass rig til he gets it on a trail.
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Mr. Clifford, it would be like taking your kick ass rig and driving it through washington DC traffic... you just wouldn't do it..
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Hey, come to think of it...

Pardon me while I hijack your thread...

What ever happened to SoCalChef and his kickin build?
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Hey, come to think of it...

Pardon me while I hijack your thread...

What ever happened to SoCalChef and his kickin build?
He hasn't signed in here since March. Pretty much finished his build up. Plus all those Socal guys now pretty much hate me because I told Robert Yates the truth about spending so much money on building up his 4.0.
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I helped Joe @ Absolute Offroad lift his JK and was there last week to help install the gears. Everything in the JK is controlled by the computer. We were not even sure that the gear change would not throw it into a limp mode. A JK will do some cool stuff. Like put your foot to the floor on a dirt road the traction control will not let it spin out (for the most part as I am sure you could but you have to work at it).
That said they are very different then the TJ's and YJ's we are all used to. If you take your JK in to have some work done I would suggest you make sure they have worked on a JK before and at least have some understanding of the electronics involved.
To add on to what Hackle was stating I just read today that a JK owner locally here in AZ had some gears done at a well known shop in town. Looks like they broke a sensor when they did it and now his locker light just keeps flashing. It's an 800 dollar part they are going to have to replace and the dealership won't do it because it now has aftermarket gears.

Now I'm not saying the shop isn't going to make good on it because they are and have an excellent reputation. But I would bet that's the first set of gears they did in a JK and just didn't know the intricacies of the axles.
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He hasn't signed in here since March. Pretty much finished his build up. Plus all those Socal guys now pretty much hate me because I told Robert Yates the truth about spending so much money on building up his 4.0.
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