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Old 09-05-2011, 02:41 PM   #1
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Noob: Wheel Spacers?

New Wrangler owner here! Will post pics shortly ("Deeeeeep Cherry Red" - love to say that to the women).

So learning about the myriad of accessories and I run across "wheel spacers"

Cool? Do they make a difference in the look? Do they work? drawbacks? Anyone got 'em?

Very curious about these!!!

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Old 09-05-2011, 02:45 PM   #2
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Are you getting wider tires and keeoing your stock wheels?

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thinking about that, yes. I assume you need these spacers to facilitate that?

Does anyne just use them on stock tires anyway?
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Oh Boy! found a thread on wheel spacers!!!!!!

OK I get it now.
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thinking about that, yes. I assume you need these spacers to facilitate that?

Does anyne just use them on stock tires anyway?
They do, but they add wear and tear to suspension components, such as ball joints. YMMV.
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They do, but they add wear and tear to suspension components, such as ball joints. YMMV.
I keep hearing (reading) that Tom, but what's the difference between using spacers and wheels with less backspacing?
Either set up your pushing your wheels/tires out farther, correct?
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I keep hearing (reading) that Tom, but what's the difference between using spacers and wheels with less backspacing?
Either set up your pushing your wheels/tires out farther, correct?
you can get wheels with zero BS,, and yes regardless of spacers or BS you still put stress on the ball joints tie rods pitman arm , drag link... just up grade them plastic ball joints and you should be fine,,, yes its true the oem ball joints have plastic internals.
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I'm using Spidertrax 1.5" spacer(adapters) for over 2 years (10,000) miles/two rotations--no problemo

Whwn i did my regearing I put in Synergy (ZIRK) HD ball joints -

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Buy wheels with the correct backspacing instead of spacers. Much safer over the life of the use of them IMHO.
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That works if you can find the wheels with the correct backspace--


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Buy wheels with the correct backspacing instead of spacers. Much safer over the life of the use of them IMHO.
I couldn't buy ProComps16x8" alloys, with 3" backspace !!

SO, I use spacer (adapters)--No problemo !!

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JIMBO,

You are a maintenance fanatic! I am pretty much an appliance operator when it comes to vehicles but I do take it in for regular maintenance. I don't think most owners are as meticulous as you. For me and the average owner I would not recommend spacers because they require regular maintenance as stated in the materials that come with them. That is why they are not safe for the average driver.
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They really don't need to be looked at any more then your regular wheels do. They are nothing more an extra set of lugs. the lugs on them are no more at risk of being lose then any other lug on a tire. And more then likely they are better because most never torque their lug nuts correctly. But someone with spacer more then likely had them torqued correctly with a torque wrench and also probably had them loctite. The new hub centric wheel spacer are a lot better then the old styles where problem occurred because the spacer relied on the stock lug to support the weight while new hub centric rely on the center of the hub to support the weight.
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One manufacturer says don't use them on the road. The other says check every so many miles and I believe the number was 2000 miles. That is more than tire rotations in most cases. There is some fuzzy "Don't blame us" going on with the manufacturers of this product, most likely caused by law suits. They won't come out and say that their product is not as safe as a wheel with proper backspacing. So until they step up and say that they are just as safe in the literature that come with them and that they will assume any and all liability, I will use proper backspaced wheels and warn others off of making the choice to use spacers....everywhere I see the question asked.
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Pretty much true, I've had a lotta things that should require deaLer attention, but


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You are a maintenance fanatic! I am pretty much an appliance operator when it comes to vehicles but I do take it in for regular maintenance. I don't think most owners are as meticulous as you. For me and the average owner I would not recommend spacers because they require regular maintenance as stated in the materials that come with them. That is why they are not safe for the average driver.
I dothem, thats why I have no leaks/no oil consuption/nohardtop wind noise/no gas mileage probs/no power trouble and I don't subscribe to the dealer recalls. because just about all-especially the "hot oil" recall, involve computer reflash and I won't lettum touch my ECU programming !!

Independent--you bet !stubborn--you bet my tranny cooling/shifting/oil temps are all under my control--

Rics right, in 10,000 miles I've checked the spacers (adapters) three times, (two rotations and one on the rack, for regearing) NO nutloose or less that 95lbft !

Now my extreme alloy wheels are more prone to stud lug tension loss and since my JKUR is 95% off road, I check the lugs before and after each (MONTH) I use the jeep !

My schedule is free--I'm able to do just about anything I want to/when I want to !--pretty lucky, but it wasn't a gift, I worked for this !

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See what I mean JIMBO, at least you are checking them. It is when you don't that something bad can happen. A lot of guys wouldn't want their wife with the kidos in the jeep wandering around the planet with a set of spacers that may or may not be inspected. I myself would know to check if I heard something loose on one of the wheels. My wife on the other hand....has no clue. She would drive the engine dry if if didn't teach her and remind her to check the oil. She drove the transmission dry and $3,000.00 later, all fixed.

Recently I saw a guy driving with a wobbly wheel that looked like it was about to come off of the car. I had to point it out to him...he had no clue. This is the type of driving, I'm sure, that give spacers a bad reputation.
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They have warnings on McDonalds coffee to protect themselves from people that don't drink coffee correctly or drive with a open cup telling them that if they spill it on themselves it will burn them. Warning is to protect from stupidity in most cases
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Heh Heh-thats OK jk'n wives are like that, mine thought the jeep was always in 4wd-thats why it's a jeep !!

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See what I mean JIMBO, at least you are checking them. It is when you don't that something bad can happen. A lot of guys wouldn't want their wife with the kidos in the jeep wandering around the planet with a set of spacers that may or may not be inspected. I myself would know to check if I heard something loose on one of the wheels. My wife on the other hand....has no clue. She would drive the engine dry if if didn't teach her and remind her to check the oil. She drove the transmission dry and $3,000.00 later, all fixed.

Recently I saw a guy driving with a wobbly wheel that looked like it was about to come off of the car. I had to point it out to him...he had no clue. This is the type of driving, I'm sure, that give spacers a bad reputation.
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They have warnings on McDonalds coffee to protect themselves from people that don't drink coffee correctly or drive with a open cup telling them that if they spill it on themselves it will burn them. Warning is to protect from stupidity in most cases
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They have warnings on McDonalds coffee to protect themselves from people that don't drink coffee correctly or drive with a open cup telling them that if they spill it on themselves it will burn them. Warning is to protect from stupidity in most cases
If your hot coffee suddenly comes unwrenched out of your hand, it is not likely that someone will die. If your wheel suddenly comes unwrenched from your vehicle, it is not only likely that someone will die, it is just a matter of statistics before it happens because of the forces involved. One of the reasons that I wouldn't have as much problem with a bumper for instance is that the bumper doesn't support the weight of the vehicle. Wheels have too much to do with safety in my book to even second guess that they will be OK.
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You can go you just about any manufactures legal notice site and they will list warning to protect themselves from something being installed incorrect and usually those statement are over stated. But wheel spacer can only cause a problem if you don't put them on correctly just like wheels will fall off if the lugs are not put on correctly. My fathers wheel came off last year after a tire shop didn't tighten his wheels correctly.

That the reason I say usually wheel spacer may be safer then most peoples wheels on the road because most that have spacers put on actually use a torque wrench to make sure they are safe. Most people that have wheels put on after a tire change can only hope the minimum wage tire changer checked the lugs after just using a impact gun and never using a torque to check if the lugs are on correctly.

Most people never check the torque on their wheels and that is a lot more unsafe then someone that put spacers on correctly. At least good spacers.
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Holy moly-what did I start here?
I jus left for a bit
Ok- so, inclined- jeep/auto conscious- spacers ok
Average Joe blow who gives two craps about their jeep/auto-spacers not ok :P
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Spacer alerts are one of my passions.

Can you tell?
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jk'n, did you see my post not to long ago, or did you already know, about--


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Spacer alerts are one of my passions.

Can you tell?
To start your JKU, you just insert key-turn to "IGN"-quickly, letgo of key and the ECU starts the engine, you don't haver to hold the key in the "IGN" position !!!but

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jk'n, did you see my post not to long ago, or did you already know, about--

To start your JKU, you just insert key-turn to "IGN"-quickly, letgo of key and the ECU starts the engine, you don't haver to hold the key in the "IGN" position !!!but

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Just an auto thing I presume?
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Just an auto thing I presume?
Just push your clutch all the way to the bottom, to close the
IGN" ckt--then do what they call the 'TAP SWITCH" movement--

Now, I'm not sure about your '07 though--tryit !

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Hmmmm.....no I didn't see this!

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To start your JKU, you just insert key-turn to "IGN"-quickly, letgo of key and the ECU starts the engine, you don't haver to hold the key in the "IGN" position !!!but

Everybody knows that

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It's part of why I love this place so much. I'm going to give that a try. My jeep is 3 years old and I'm still discovering little quarks that are nifty features. Thanks JIMBO!

Are you trying to distract me from spacers Hmmm?
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--NOPE-

Just push your clutch all the way to the bottom, to close the
IGN" ckt--then do what they call the 'TAP SWITCH" movement--

Now, I'm not sure about your '07 though--tryit !

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Oh i did but....

Was searching out long starts when I stumbled across that and tried it-no dice.
Every few starts (attempts) it would not start right away. From some reads it seemed common (?)

Another but...
Ever since my trip to the dealer (clutch)
Its been starting instantly, coincidence? Dunno-
Haveto try again 2mrw
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Hmmmm.....no I didn't see this!



It's part of why I love this place so much. I'm going to give that a try. My jeep is 3 years old and I'm still discovering little quarks that are nifty features. Thanks JIMBO!

Are you trying to distract me from spacers Hmmm?

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