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Old 10-15-2013, 07:01 PM   #1
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Northridge Bolt Upgrade Kit, Is it worth it?

I keep reading that the bolt upgrade kit is a MUST, thing is I don't have unlimited funds. But I was reading through a thread and a guy was talking about the stock bolts had wallowed out his stock track bar bracket bolt hole. Now my Jeep is a 2012, but I plan on keeping it forever, so I don't want to run into this problem down the road. So my question is, is the Northridge 4x4 bolt upgrade kit worth the $40? All replies would be appreciated, thanks.

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Old 10-15-2013, 09:17 PM   #2
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I bought it. I felt that for $40 it was a pittance compared to any problems that might arise down the road. Now I just have to install them.

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Old 10-16-2013, 02:31 AM   #3
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Definitely worth it. Installed this when I put my lift on.
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:33 AM   #4
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I just ordered the Synergy kit after reading through various threads here. I would say go ahead and get the Northridge kit if you have any concerns. It is cheap peace of mind in my book.
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:11 PM   #5
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Ya know you don't have to order the whole kit $$$$$$ You can get quality Grade 8 bolts at your Local Industrial Supply like Fasten All, And online at McMaster Carr hardware.
As long as you know what sizes your looking for... This way you can piece meal the upgrade and do a few bolts at a time....
Ace Hardware also sells grade 8 bolts as well as any good NAPA auto parts store.
Just be sure your buying Quality USA made bolts..... ASK !!
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:31 PM   #6
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Ya know you don't have to order the whole kit $$$$$$ You can get quality Grade 8 bolts at your Local Industrial Supply like Fasten All, And online at McMaster Carr hardware.
As long as you know what sizes your looking for... This way you can piece meal the upgrade and do a few bolts at a time....
Ace Hardware also sells grade 8 bolts as well as any good NAPA auto parts store.
Just be sure your buying Quality USA made bolts..... ASK !!
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It's not that easy. My local Ace Hardware, at least, didn't carry one of the sizes needed. I also priced out what it would cost me based on what they had and it was cheaper just to go with the Northridge kit. Those grade 8 stuff isn't cheap.
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:49 PM   #7
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Doesn't have to be Ace Hardware or your local auto parts store (both are expensive); check the YellowPages for a local fastener or industrial hardware store...cheaper, better selection, higher quality.
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:53 PM   #8
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Got over 30k miles on my lift with the original bolts and no issue. Only time I have seen something wallow out is when it wasn't properly tightened and have never seen a bolt break while on the trail.

We wheel level 7&8 trails frequently so the system does get stressed.

40 bucks is a cheap price to pay for peace of mind.
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:58 PM   #9
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Like DAK says properly tightened NOT Required.. like a lot of upgrades we do are over kill NOT Required but cool to have.

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Ya know you don't have to order the whole kit $$$$$$ You can get quality Grade 8 bolts at your Local Industrial Supply like Fasten All, And online at McMaster Carr hardware.
As long as you know what sizes your looking for... This way you can piece meal the upgrade and do a few bolts at a time....
Ace Hardware also sells grade 8 bolts as well as any good NAPA auto parts store.
Just be sure your buying Quality USA made bolts..... ASK !!
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My local Fastenal wants $40 just for the bolts. I'd say you'll have a hard time finding a better price on the whole kit.
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A source at AEV told me that the bolt kits were "snake oil"! The factory bolts, properly torqued, will do the job just fine, according to AEV.

I re-used my factory bolts and they all torqued just fine.
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A source at AEV told me that the bolt kits were "snake oil"! The factory bolts, properly torqued, will do the job just fine, according to AEV. I re-used my factory bolts and they all torqued just fine.
Yes and no on snake oil Yes "grade 8" They are not stronger than your factory bolts. Standard 10.9 is the same tinsel strength as metric grade 8

No because the stock holes are not 14mm (the size of the bolts) and there's slop.
Also the threads eventually eat your bushings. More so when put to the stresses off road. Don't believe me - pull off your track bar and take a look. The grade 8 bolts are 9/16 to help fill in the slack and shouldered to protect the bushings,

These two things alone save your bushings in the long run. There's way to many cases of DW-on stock jeeps mind you, why? Because of these smaller bolts eating the bushings.

One of the best mods you can do to your jeep IMO. That rep is smoking something funky
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Yes and no on snake oil

Yes "grade 8"
They are not stronger than your factory bolts. Standard 10.9 is the same tinsel strength as grade 8

No because the stock hole are not 14mm (the size of the bolts and there's slop.
Also the threads eventually eat your bushings. More so when put to stress off road. Don't believe me - pull off your track bar and take a look. The grade 8 bolts are 9/16 to help fill in the slack and shouldered to protect the bushings,
These two things alone save your bushings in the long run.

There's way to many cases of DW. On stock jeeps mind you, why? Because of these smaller bolts eating the bushings.

One of the best mods you can do to your jeep IMO. That rep is smoking something funky
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My local industrial store also would've been more than the kit.
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:16 PM   #14
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Alright, thanks. I may just go ahead and order them, I know $40 isn't that much, but hey when you're emptying every pocket on the thing, every penny counts.
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This "upgrade" was not even on my radar until last night. I was upgradeing the steering stabalizer to a Fox ATS. This also relocates the mount by changing out the passenger side track bar bolt. To get the factory bolt out I had to ratchet it out completely (back it out through the nut and the bushing).

Found the bushing to be scored completely by the bolt threads. Now, I'm not an engineer, but even I don't think that is right.

Oh ya, and my JK is a 2013 JKUR with a whopping 2,100 miles on it.

I ordered the bolt kit today!
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:44 PM   #16
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I just ordered from Poly Performance.

With shipping it was just under $100.
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Has this been resolved on the 2014s??
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:31 PM   #18
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Northridge has a special for the bolt kit right now coupon code bolt, makes it $35 just saw it in the e-mail
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Anybody have an idea on price of install at a dealer or shop?

No, I'm not that lazy, but I'm a total amateur and want to make sure it's done right. (also, my tool collection stinks)
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Anybody have an idea on price of install at a dealer or shop? No, I'm not that lazy, but I'm a total amateur and want to make sure it's done right. (also, my tool collection stinks)
It's so easy. You don't even remove the tires. All on the ground. Remove a bolt and replace it. Leave loose until you are all done. Give the jeep one last shake and torque to spec
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Has this been resolved on the 2014s??
I believe this sounds like it has been an issue for the entire current model run (07 - .......).

So I would say, No.
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A source at AEV told me that the bolt kits were "snake oil"! The factory bolts, properly torqued, will do the job just fine, according to AEV. I re-used my factory bolts and they all torqued just fine.
I honestly would agree. I've had 2 different lifted JK's with over 50k miles and no problems with the original bolts. No death wobble or anything, so I'm fine with them.
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can anyone tell me the markings on the stock bolts? I bought a used jeep and don't want to order bolts or track down a torque wrench to pull the ones I've got just to check if they've already been replaced.
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I did mine yesterday. The factory bolts have a hexagon with an M stamped in the middle and 10.9 stamped underneath.

Perhaps the easiest way is just to take a quick look. The factory bolt heads have a shoulder (meaning the head/washer are one). Also, look at the front of the driver side rear lower control arm. The factory used a nut that had an arm on it that locked when you tightened the bolt.
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Properly tightened has nothing to do with it. The bushings are rubber, and flex/move. Even if the bolt is "properly tightened", the bushing still moves, so over time, the threads of the bolt will chew the bushing (rasping at it) making it bigger and bigger. Problems are inevitable....it just might take 5 years. For the amount of money it costs, I wouldn't even think about it.
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No, and I doubt it ever will be fixed.
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Can someone please link me to the bolt kit on Northridge site? I can't find it anywhere on Northridge.ca

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Has the kit been updated to include all the necessary bolts? I know at one time they were missing one for the 2012s or something.
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Can someone please link me to the bolt kit on Northridge site? I can't find it anywhere on Northridge.ca

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Has the kit been updated to include all the necessary bolts? I know at one time they were missing one for the 2012s or something.
Yes, the kits include a 14mm bolt needed for the frame side of the front trackbar.

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