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Old 08-07-2013, 08:36 PM   #1
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Not Digging the Tuffy Security Deck

Just installed it in my JKU and a few things are bothering me:

1) The nuts, bolts and brackets are very visible. Not so bad when the top is on, but when the top is off it just looks very exposed and unfinished. And, easy for someone to dismantle with just a wrench.

2) It seems that someone could pry the lid off with a crowbar and in process do some real damage to the Jeep.

3) If you lower the back seats, the panel is not bolted to the floor and not very secure. It seems that you could kick it in or use a crowbar to rip it off.

4) No tie down hooks on the lid. I know you can add them but that's even more money.

Maybe I'm expecting too much but for over $400, I'm somewhat disappointed.

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Hey Postmon, would you mind posting some pics of the exposed hardware? This thing is next on my list and I'd like to see what you're talking about.

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I can understand your disappointment, those seem like pretty obvious things that Tuffy should have probably addressed.

At the same time though, the crook who is cruising your street with a crowbar and a set of wrenches is probably going to bust into your truck and take your junk no matter what.

The idea is to deter the 'smash and grab' types. The safe-cracker types are always going to get your stuff unless you have sharks with friggin lasers.
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I agree just installed one today... Not to mention it rattles worse than an 84 caprice rolling on 24's with my 10" sub in there.. I feel nothing is ever truly secure and if someone wants to take a crowbar to it they clearly need my belongings more than I do. I was looking to stop the "crime of opportunity" which it does do. Gues I too expected more..

Any help with the rattle besides $150 worth of dynamat would be appreciated.. Because you know I am already working on this..
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At the same time though, the crook who is cruising your street with a crowbar and a set of wrenches is probably going to bust into your truck and take your junk no matter what.

The idea is to deter the 'smash and grab' types. The safe-cracker types are always going to get your stuff unless you have sharks with friggin lasers.
Yup
If you are someplace where crooks are walking around with crowbars and tools, it is probably time for you to egress to a new location.

The hinges to your doors and hood are on the outside of the vehicle...as is the zippers to your soft top windows. If they have the tools, and want your stuff that badly, they will get it.
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I agree just installed one today... Not to mention it rattles worse than an 84 caprice rolling on 24's with my 10" sub in there.. I feel nothing is ever truly secure and if someone wants to take a crowbar to it they clearly need my belongings more than I do. I was looking to stop the "crime of opportunity" which it does do. Gues I too expected more..

Any help with the rattle besides $150 worth of dynamat would be appreciated.. Because you know I am already working on this..
I have no rattles what so ever. (I only have the stock sub).

On time I loaded a bunch of stuff on the deck, and developed a rattle which pissed me off...but I fixed it by adding a little back of black tape to the slot where the "roller" (on the tray) slides in. But I'm guessing an aftermarket subwoofer will probably produce more rattles.
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I have no rattles either. I think it was kbbwolf that maybe tack welded (I have no clue if thats the right term, lol, but u get the idea) his nuts/bolts because he didn't like the security aspect either.
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I can understand your concerns, I had the same ones in the beginning. My thought on the security of it is this...

Its much better to have something guarding your things than nothing at all. It would be so easy for someone to zip down my side window and pull out my guitar. That would literally take 19 seconds.

But, if someone has the tools, time, and willingness to bust into your tuffy security box, all the while not knowing if anything of value is in there, then chances are they have the tools, time, and willingness to bust into any ordinary locked trunk in the parking lot.

I don't know this for certain, but I think if you have the right tools and know-how, breaking into a trunk really quick is probably an easy thing.

With all of that being said, I can understand that you have different thoughts on the subject and after paying 400 bucks you may not feel like you got what you wanted. Maybe looking into the Aries Trunk?
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I plan on spending an hour or so to try and come up with a solution. Moving the sub? I know that every bolt is tight.... Anything like dynamat that someone has used and can recommend? I see some options when I search but a forum recommendation would better.
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check out Mac's Custom trunk box... about $1100 but no run of the mill thief is getting into it.



I got the Tuffy Security Deck in the mail from Northridge4x4 and I think it will be perfect to keep away the "convenience thief" while I'm in a store, at a park, or other relatively safe public place. I don't expect it to keep my stuff safe in Camden NJ overnight on a quiet street but I don't think that's what it's for either. Take all of your valuables out of the Jeep when you will truly be leaving it for long periods in less then safe places and expect to use an insurance claim should some lowlife damage your vehicle looking for something worthwhile. That's how I look at it.
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check out Mac's Custom trunk box... about $1100 but no run of the mill thief is getting into it.



I got the Tuffy Security Deck in the mail from Northridge4x4 and I think it will be perfect to keep away the "convenience thief" while I'm in a store, at a park, or other relatively safe public place. I don't expect it to keep my stuff safe in Camden NJ overnight on a quiet street but I don't think that's what it's for either. Take all of your valuables out of the Jeep when you will truly be leaving it for long periods in less then safe places and expect to use an insurance claim should some lowlife damage your vehicle looking for something worthwhile. That's how I look at it.
Mine is a hardtop, but I've heard some of the soft top guys say effectively that if you have to park it outside overnight, just take everything you care about out of it, and leave it unlocked - This way they can rifle through all your nothing without wrecking your truck.

I don't know if thats good advice or not, but in a way it makes sense.
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It's interesting this thread came up, I'm starting to look at them. Glad to hear some neg input. Next question is it water proof?
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It's interesting this thread came up, I'm starting to look at them. Glad to hear some neg input. Next question is it water proof?
Nope, it isn't water proof. It will keep most of your stuff dry, but rain will run down the sides in the corners.

If you are looking for "theft proof" system against a thief that has a crow bar, tools and time....it isn't going to happen.

I have no problem throwing my backpack with my work laptop in the back when I have to run to the store/gym/bar after work topless.
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Mine doesn't rattle. Never noticed exposed hardware, but I'll look. A thief with a crowbar and wrenches is likely to get into most anything on the Jeep, so I'm not sure that's a reasonable test of security.
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Mine doesn't rattle, and it's actually rather hard to dissemble. I had the same concerns that it'd be easy to take apart, but it really isn't. Granted, I haven't tried to kick it or crowbar it.

On the flip side, there are much easier grabs... think of all the women who leave their purses in plain sight in their vehicles. A simple smash of the window and the thief knows they'll end up with a bunch of cards.

I am a little peeved that the hardware provided aren't stainless steel or something equally water proof. A couple of the bolts have developed a coating of rust on them on mine.
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^ x2 on the rusty bolts
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No rattles on mine either. My biggest issue (although it might be a security thing) is that you can't remove the lid without also removing the back plate.
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No rattles on mine either. My biggest issue (although it might be a security thing) is that you can't remove the lid without also removing the back plate.
Do you have the longer/4 door version?
If so, you can remove the lid without removing the back plate.

Open the tailgate door.
Pull the lid towards you.
Lift up.
The push the lid all the way back.

It is set up so that you can't lift the lid without the tailgate door being opened.
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Some good points and issues here, but I've got to say the obvious that the Tuffy enclosures are equally if not more secure than any regular trunk found on most sedans. SUVs like my GC don't even have trunks so the Tuffy in a Wrangler is better than just window glass in an SUV.

Unless you want to run around in an up-armored Hummer or Abrams M1A (with door/hatch locks), a vehicle is not a very secure place for valuables. The resourceful thieves in Chicago would probably even be able to jack or strip an M1A in short order if given half a chance.

I've got the small Tuffy enclosure for the 2-door JK and it's tougher than the trunk of any vehicle I've owned. The small and large Tuffy enclosures are good enough security for running around topless/doorless, IMHO. It's all a matter of perspective.
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Do you have the longer/4 door version?
If so, you can remove the lid without removing the back plate.

Open the tailgate door.
Pull the lid towards you.
Lift up.
The push the lid all the way back.

It is set up so that you can't lift the lid without the tailgate door being opened.
Yes, it's the full enclosure on the four door. I've tried your method, but when I tilt it up to clear the front lugs, the back of the lid drops down too far to slide it past the back plate. I've spent ages trying to figure it and I can't get it to work.
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I've been happy with my smaller security enclosure in the 2dr. It's not hard to get in and out of the Jeep and it doesn't have any exposed fasteners. It's a good deterrence for the smash-and-grab thief but keep in mind it's only protected by a factory key lock in the tail gate. Those aren't hard to get through if you've got the tools and really want to get in.
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I have had this for 3 months now and love it. Yes, tie downs would have been nice. I just put some on myself and where I wanted them.

I have no noise. Like mentioned above. If someone really wanted to get into it they will. I have locked my guns in it and felt good about it.

May be a little high in price. But now I don't have to worry about things I leave while topless or with the soft top on.

Well worth it for me.
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Yes, it's the full enclosure on the four door. I've tried your method, but when I tilt it up to clear the front lugs, the back of the lid drops down too far to slide it past the back plate. I've spent ages trying to figure it and I can't get it to work.
Odd.

I'm looking at the instructions, and when you look at the side mounting panels (#5 and #6), the lid should not drop down at all while pulled forward.
https://www.tuffyproducts.com/images...st/275INST.pdf

Are you pulling it all the way forward...as far as it will go? It should move a good 5 inches. Once it's all the way forward, I lift my end up about 6 inches, then I start to push/slide it back a few inches until that back end is free.

It takes some twisting and manuvering to get the lid out (it will not come straight out, you have to angle it), but it does come out without removing the back panel.
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Its actually pretty nice.. Ok so the sub box was up against the Forward cargo wall that is right behind the rear seat. Pulled more towards the rear and I am good to go. Now that I know I have to change the hardware to stainless still not real excited but this is a great unit for me.

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anyone find black bolts to replace the chrome ones.
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I installed mine yesterday and was surprised at the exposedness (and obtrusiveness) of the hex nuts... (See my other post this morning at http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/wha...ml#post4088947) I'm thinking I may replace them with rounded head Torx or something a little more difficult for your average passer-by thief. Since the brackets are now solidly tightened in the correct configuration, it should be easy to take off the brackets intact, then replace one bolt at a time without throwing it out of adjustment, ensuring the externally exposed parts are all Torx heads with the hex nut on the other side (ok, yes, a thief could use a flat wrench but it's trickier). The 8mm bolt to the tub lip could also be a Torx or secure Torx.
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Has anyone tried painting the nuts and bolts black? I may try that.
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I replaced the bolts that attach to the top of the tub lip with 4 black torx bolts that I found at my local ACE. I haven't swapped out the others yet.

With that said, I'm continually disappointed with the quality of the security deck (given its price point) compared to the less expensive tailgate enclosure. While I enjoy being able to lift the lid of the deck and its greater storage capacity, it's just miles behind the security and overall fit of its cheaper little brother. Mine rattles and leaks to the point where I've purchased yards of weatherstripping from Home Depot to make it less susceptible to water and noise. Still, I expect more for a $450 product.

For what it's worth, someone posted a link to the new "JK Unlimited Security Tailgate Enclosure" (JK Unlimited Security Tailgate Enclosure Jeep Wrangler, JK 2011+) in another thread-- it appears to be a deeper version of the half-depth tailgate enclosure, and perhaps that perfect combination of security and storage space that I've been hoping for.
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Security enclosure questions

I have a soft top on my Jeep during the summer months. Then I put my hard top on during the winter months. I do this because I enjoy running in the summer with the top off. I live in a descent subdivision without much crime, but my Jeep has been broken into twice First time doors were unlocked. Second time doors were locked, so they cut the back window out of my soft top to gain entry. I now leave my doors open without anything at all in my glove compartment or console. I saw this security enclosure for sale and thought it might be a neat idea somewhat, but expensive for my budget. The I seen one on Craigslist for $30. I seems like is would really be something that would give thieves a harder time or at least take longer. It is kinda hard to notice with the seat up unless you drive a Jeep and just know. I am going to use it to keep my tire changing tools, flashlight, and stuff like that in. If a thief wants something bad enough, they will be able to get into even more secure locations than this. My question is that I did not get any paperwork with it and would like to know how it mounts into the back. Do you have to drill bolt holes in the floor or side panels? Anyone that can help me with this or has a picture, I would appreciate it. I tried to attach a picture to show you what I have. Thanks

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No drilling. Call Tuffy or check their website for instructions.

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