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Old 11-17-2013, 08:25 PM   #1
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Official Expedition and Overland Rig Talk Thread

There are a lot of guys on the forum that are building their rigs more for adventure travel and exploration rather that muddin' and crawlin', so I fugured we should have a thread thats dedicated to those rigs, but in particular (besides the build of the actual jeep itself) all the expedition gear, including storage bins, drawer system, refrigeration methods, water carrying, shower systems, cooking systems, etc etc etc. This would be a great place to share what you have experienced works, doesn't work, etc. Any cool thing that you have seen that would benefit being out in the bush, and generally anything that has to do with overland travel. I will add my own experiences are they come in regards to products (as well as products that I have already used) so this will hopefully be an ongoing thread. My current project is going to be an "open water" source shower system/dishwashing system.

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I've always wanted a gobi rack and a trailer with a pop up tent. Does that count. I like expedition rigs better than rock rigs most of the time. This thread should be a fun one!

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The last time the wife and I were camping, after dinner, I had a bunch of dirty cookware (pans, tongs, etc) so I want to have a water system without a tank, like pumping for a creek. Im going to add a heat exchanger just so that if necessary, I can have hot water as well, and install a Y valve with one end coming out straight, the other into an inline water filter so that we can have safe drinkable water if necessary. Im just drawing up a plumbing diagram and starting to source parts. Trying to keep this under $300 and don't want to pay $500+ for a "kit."
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Go to YouTube and search "bug out trailers". They have some great ideas even if you choose not to tow.
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Yeay! awesome. I'm a member of expedition portal, but its great to to have a thread here . I was at Vermont Overland Rally 3 weeks back. I'm building my JK for long trips/expeditions. I'm in MA, btw.

I'm saving up for a gobi rack as my next big purchase. So far I only have ace sliders/grabars on my 2013 JK. No lift planned I don't need it as yet.
I loved your orange? jeep build NYC.

Have you looked at front runner tanks for water storage. Also check out roadshower.
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Yeay! awesome. I'm a member of expedition portal, but its great to to have a thread here . I was at Vermont Overland Rally 3 weeks back. I'm building my JK for long trips/expeditions. I'm in MA, btw.

I'm saving up for a gobi rack as my next big purchase. So far I only have ace sliders/grabars on my 2013 JK. No lift planned I don't need it as yet.
I loved your orange? jeep build NYC.

Have you looked at front runner tanks for water storage. Also check out roadshower.
Ive researched a lot of shower systems and they have one flaw (in my eyes)...they all use tanks. Im trying to avoid using a tank, I want to pump natural water (unlimited water) but figuring out how to heat it is going to be the challenge. One thought I had was wrapping a good chunk of the exhaust in copper coil piping, (like a kegorator, only to heat instead of cool). While constant pumping of creek water wont get it hot, it may just be enough to make it warm. It would be nice to tap into the OEM radiator/cooling system to sap the heat from there, but I haven't been able to figure out a workable system with that method.
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Ive researched a lot of shower systems and they have one flaw (in my eyes)...they all use tanks. Im trying to avoid using a tank, I want to pump natural water (unlimited water) but figuring out how to heat it is going to be the challenge. One thought I had was wrapping a good chunk of the exhaust in copper coil piping, (like a kegorator, only to heat instead of cool). While constant pumping of creek water wont get it hot, it may just be enough to make it warm. It would be nice to tap into the OEM radiator/cooling system to sap the heat from there, but I haven't been able to figure out a workable system with that method.
Okay.. I can't remember the brand name. Something from H and goes into the engine bay.
The other one is Eccotemp tankless water heaters. This is propane though. Are you leaning towards engine heat or electrical or propane?
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Okay.. I can't remember the brand name. Something from H and goes into the engine bay.
The other one is Eccotemp tankless water heaters.
Yea I may need to go that route if i cant figure out a way to do it off the Jeep itself. Ideally, I want to use engine heat, its there, its free, and less stuff (propane) I need to carry with me. Will also be looking at some solar power, as well as a genesisoffroad dual battery system.
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I do like my Trailgater from outback Adventure products.

No drilling at al and stainless steel and a cuting board. Take some minutes to install

All the things on picture will fit when closed.





Some video I made with the table



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I do like my Trailgater from outback Adventure products.

No drilling at al and stainless steel and a cuting board. Take some minutes to install

All the things on picture will fit when closed.

I definitely like that table. Thats on the list as well. Love the slideout cutting board. How is it when stored away? Does it rattle a lot?
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great thread!!!!
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This is something that me and the wife would like to do. Does anyone know of overland tours or groups, similar to Jeep Jamboree possibly, that operates in the US. I saw a thread a while back about the Vermont Overland tour, which looked fantastic, but could not find anything else when I searched the web. Thanks
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Thanks for starting this

This is what I am building my Jeep for. Been following other adventures and looking forward to doing some. Got a couple of different set of friends that are also in to this, biggest problem there, is they work and I retire in 4 months. But I/we do have some big & small trips planned. Looking forward to Alaska next year and maybe a northern AZ trip. 2015 expedition expo with north AZ and some of Utah added in. Then who knows what else might be in the cards.

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Plan is to build a trailer for the longer trips, adding a lite roof rack (nothing like a Gobi), I like this Road Shower - uses the renewable energy of the sun
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Some more pics of the Vermont Overland Rally Workshop, if anyone is interested.
https://picasaweb.google.com/1087657...w&noredirect=1

Also, the below thread from expedition portal(forum registration needed).
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I definitely like that table. Thats on the list as well. Love the slideout cutting board. How is it when stored away? Does it rattle a lot?
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A little bit expensive, but stainless steel is great for food and and it is easy to clean in the field because it has no edge in the front. And no drilling

Do not rattle at all.

When stored (folded), some space for plates and cutlery and food in between





A nice picture from the web

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If You have problem with space look at smaller items like Helinox chair.

To the left, new gears

Expeed sleepingmat
Lighter sleepingbag
Helinox Chair

To the right, the same order.

If You are four, multiply with four and You will save a lot of space.



"Old" chair to the left, Helinox to the right.



GSI Outdoors Macro Table and Helinox chairs, alot of space saving.

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Good recommendations!
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If You have a 2 door You can put alot off stuff in the Bestop saddle bags



The raingler net is very good for sleeping bags etc. Tall adults can not sit in the backseat with this net.

From the net.




My picture



Trasharoo bag, great way to store clothes in.



In a 2 door with the backseat up You can fit a small fridge/freezer like Waeco CDF 25.



Between the 6 bolts and the hardtop in th rear You can use this as tie downs



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I like Smittybilt seat covers with al the bags. The cover itself do not have the best fit, but I can leave with it.



This is great, (12101.52 Rugged Ridge Roll Bar Sunglass / Storage Holder) and (11250.08Rugged Ridge LED Interior Light Roll Bar Mount Jeep Wrangler)

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If You have problem with space look at smaller items like Helinox chair.

To the left, new gears

Expeed sleepingmat
Lighter sleepingbag
Helinox Chair

To the right, the same order.

If You are four, multiply with four and You will save a lot of space.



"Old" chair to the left, Helinox to the right.



GSI Outdoors Macro Table and Helinox chairs, alot of space saving.

Awesome products, and I'll definitely check out those chairs! Those would save me a lot of space!
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Wow those chairs ain't cheap...wasn't ready for that
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Perfect! I have messed around in mud and rocks but found that i am way more interested in expedition overlanding. By the way, dave, i recently watched a video fron "ExpeditionOverland" on youtube and they had the exact water setup you are looking for. They took a long hose and dragged it to a water source and then it would pump to a spicket.

On to my rig...
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Truck lites and rigid amber floods
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Yea I may need to go that route if i cant figure out a way to do it off the Jeep itself. Ideally, I want to use engine heat, its there, its free, and less stuff (propane) I need to carry with me. Will also be looking at some solar power, as well as a genesisoffroad dual battery system.
One possibility would be a radiator with built in tranny cooler (not being used of course) you coul put quick connects on the in and outs that you could quickly connect your houses to and have it pump through the radiator/transmission cooler, would cool the motor fairly well as well in the heat exchange.
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I'll be watching this thread

I've already seen a few things posted here that i plan to add to my new Sahara. The Raingler interior overhead net and the tailgate table. When i get serious about taking extended trips, i plan to add a FrontRunner roof rack. Rotopax carriers/attachments. I'd like to get some type of interior rack for a 2 door with the rear seat removed.
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I saw a home made water tank built into a roof rack once. It was black painted metal. They guy drained it when driving but had a water pump and filter system. He would fill the tank when parked at a camp site. It would heat the water in the sun for hot showers. I didn't have time to check out his full setup but the water pump was in the engine compartment.
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I saw a home made water tank built into a roof rack once. It was black painted metal. They guy drained it when driving but had a water pump and filter system. He would fill the tank when parked at a camp site. It would heat the water in the sun for hot showers. I didn't have time to check out his full setup but the water pump was in the engine compartment.
I just have so many projects I need to tackle my head is spinning. I still need to do my "kitchen lighting" which is basically everything in and right outside the tailgate opening. My kitchen setup will be similar to the one posted above....that tailgate table with my coleman grill on it, but I want lighting there so I can see what the hell Im cooking. I also need to find some quality bins that work very well in the JK (perfect measurements to maximize space)...right now all my stuff is in duffels and sports bags, but bins are much more space friendly.

Also, Im a sucker for cool gadgets and this is as cool as it gets....free power, and unlike solar, works at night. Reading reviews on it I see that an 8 minute burn gives nearly 20% battery power for an iphone, which is damn impressive.

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