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Old 04-14-2013, 09:29 AM   #31
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Looking forward to all of this about the ORH top. Can you do something about this Wisconsin weather? I want to install the damn thing.
Man, I'm tellin you...the winter that just won't die. I've been on the road for awhile, and thought for sure when I got home we'd have some spring weather. Alas, the day I flew in we were having an ice storm.

Then the snow on Friday. WTF?

Tuesday I'm gone again. But when I come back, it better be warm. Or the dog gets it.
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Man, I'm tellin you...the winter that just won't die. I've been on the road for awhile, and thought for sure when I got home we'd have some spring weather. Alas, the day I flew in we were having an ice storm.

Then the snow on Friday. WTF?

Tuesday I'm gone again. But when I come back, it better be warm. Or the dog gets it.
Somewhere warm at least?

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Somewhere warm at least?
East Coast. VA, FL, D of C, NYC, PA. Florida will be nice, obviously. And VA's supposed to be 80 or 90 while I'm there.

Hell, give me 60 and I'm giggling like a slow kid with bubble wrap.
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Old 04-14-2013, 01:06 PM   #34
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I'm stillllllll waiting to install my ORH top. I've had it since January. Just took it out of the box last week to let it sit in the sun for a while in my spare bedroom. Hopefully that will help stretch it out a little. I hope to install it next weekend. It's cloudy windy and high 40's today in the great northeast!!!
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just started year 2 with my top and wouldnt trade it for anything
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I'm stillllllll waiting to install my ORH top. I've had it since January. Just took it out of the box last week to let it sit in the sun for a while in my spare bedroom. Hopefully that will help stretch it out a little. I hope to install it next weekend. It's cloudy windy and high 40's today in the great northeast!!!
It's not the sun you need, it's the heat.

And I know how awful it is to have the thing sitting there, uninstalled, mocking you. Calling you chicken. Telling you you're a wuss. Oh yeah, believe me, I know. Who says Jeeps can't be cruel?

For what it's worth, I installed mine in my garage in February, with a space heater running, and it was a beast. My ribs hurt the next day, and I'm no stranger to working out.

Garage temp was about 70º, by the way. Tops.

But once it was on...damn.
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To be specific, it's the top panels that you need to fear. Fitting the plastic strips into the center channel is what kills you, if it's cold when you do the install. No problem with the windows...

Now that I think about it, having a second pair of hands might make it much easier. Another person to stretch those bad boys. I used some clamps to keep one side of the top in place while I battled to fit the plastic into the center channel. Helped some...
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The included instructions are interesting to say the least. Am I crazy or is there a thread with a more detailed version that somebody kindly put together?
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I was looking at mine today and its 85 so I thought I might give it a try but instead I decided to install my safari side nets. I went to install the rear and then decided it would be better to install after the top. Looked at what looks like my rear tailgate bar, but only one hole instead of the two that are there for the Jeep. Am I missing something??
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The included instructions are interesting to say the least. Am I crazy or is there a thread with a more detailed version that somebody kindly put together?
You're being kind.

Keys to install, as far as I recall: keep everything loose...especially the hardware on the front, both driver and passenger side doors. I put about one good turn on the nuts for the front hardware, to leave me with max play. Don't even think about tightening them down till you've got the panels themselves completely installed. Also, you might wanna do the front panel last, which is (I think) opposite of what Tim tells you to do in his inadequate, horrible, retarded "directions."

See? F*** being kind.

If you don't have an extra pair of hands, try using a clamp to hold one side of either top panel while you wrestle the plastic strip into the center channel. Worked for me, though I broke a serious sweat doing it.

Here are a few links that should help you at least get an idea of how to install it:



Not sure if this will make things easier, but this is what I posted after I installed mine. IIRC, I included some photos of the finished product that might help...

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One other thing: don't be afraid to call Tim directly. I called him a couple times with install Q's. Hard part was getting him off the phone, frankly. Don't judge him by his sorry directions; he's a good guy, and has no problem helping you.
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You're being kind.

Keys to install, as far as I recall: keep everything loose...especially the hardware on the front, both driver and passenger side doors. I put about one good turn on the nuts for the front hardware, to leave me with max play. Don't even think about tightening them down till you've got the panels themselves completely installed. Also, you might wanna do the front panel last, which is (I think) opposite of what Tim tells you to do in his inadequate, horrible, retarded "directions."

See? F*** being kind.

If you don't have an extra pair of hands, try using a clamp to hold one side of either top panel while you wrestle the plastic strip into the center channel. Worked for me, though I broke a serious sweat doing it.

Here are a few links that should help you at least get an idea of how to install it:



Not sure if this will make things easier, but this is what I posted after I installed mine. IIRC, I included some photos of the finished product that might help...

ORH top installed

One other thing: don't be afraid to call Tim directly. I called him a couple times with install Q's. Hard part was getting him off the phone, frankly. Don't judge him by his sorry directions; he's a good guy, and has no problem helping you.
Thanks for the tips! Hope the install will go smoothly. I plan on having a couple of buddies help me. It's amazing what my friends would do when u offer them 🍺🍺to help you out. Lol
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Just got mine fairly installed yesterday... I CANNOT get the back portion on. I'm going to let it all sit out in the sun today and see if that helps with it in the heat of the day. It lacked about a 1/4-1/2 inch of going in the channel.
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Def let it heat up as much as possible. It is tight but will fit once it's hot!
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Just got mine fairly installed yesterday... I CANNOT get the back portion on. I'm going to let it all sit out in the sun today and see if that helps with it in the heat of the day. It lacked about a 1/4-1/2 inch of going in the channel.
After 7.5 hours or so, temps at about 85 degrees, sitting in direct sunlight, and many cuss words later, I finally got my back panel on last year by sitting on the center rollbar supported roof section and getting a good mechanical advantage on it. Since then it goes on easy peezy.
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I just thought I'd share my experience. Dealt with Tim Allen on the phone to place order 4/2014. He was very pleasant answered all my concerns/questions. He told me 5-8 weeks and it came week 7/8...just within his window (seemed like forever...but he kept to his estimate).

The top came...it's a two-personal install. The material is VERY tight. Heat/Sun are NEEDED to install this. Lots of bad words and beers should be expected. I think we spent more time deciphering the instructions than installing the top. Instructions were very vague/confusing (to us). The initial installation was overall a pain in the @$$. I'm so glad that's done.

That being said...I LOVE the top! Quality is excellent, craftsmanship is phenomenal and it looks great. I'd buy it again. I can see this will be EASY to use and configure once the material has had time to break in. Looks great and amazingly functional for a 4-door (can expose top over all seats...that's what I was looking for with a fastback top).

ONLY downside = loss of cargo. I suppose the gain in top flexibility offsets the cargo limitations, but if cargo is a concern, get a non-fastback top. Hope this helps anyone else looking. Happy Jeep'n!
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About how long would it take u and would u be able to (store it)...
Have the two top portions off and I'm assuming u can roll them up and store it in the back of the jeep and let's say it starts raining, get it back installed quickly?
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Also what about leaks in the Heroes fastback? Any issues & has he changed anything on it from a year ago?
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The front section rolls up and stays at the header. The rear section u remove and can roll up n leave in rear. Only a few minutes to put it on. I did mine In a rain storm without issues.
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I have no leaks. I even had snow on it.
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I'd buy a rampage top before I bought this thing.
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I'd buy a rampage top before I bought this thing.
Revive! Haha.

I haven't seen the Rampage top personally, but I haven't been impressed with other products they make. I would put them on the same level as Smittybilt, or any other Chinese product. Also I prefer the factory style materials that Bestop or ORH use, versus the sail cloth that Rampage uses.

Also, I'm a fan of using American made products when I can. I have had enough fitment issues with Chinese products, so I'll spend the extra money.
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Revive! Haha.

I haven't seen the Rampage top personally, but I haven't been impressed with other products they make. I would put them on the same level as Smittybilt, or any other Chinese product. Also I prefer the factory style materials that Bestop or ORH use, versus the sail cloth that Rampage uses.

Also, I'm a fan of using American made products when I can. I have had enough fitment issues with Chinese products, so I'll spend the extra money.
Holy back from the dead Batman.

Anyway, I agree. I looked at the ORH top, but just hated the look of that thick piece running down behind the rear doors on the cargo top. I ended up with a Bestop Trektop NX. Great flexible use top.
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Holy back from the dead Batman.

Anyway, I agree. I looked at the ORH top, but just hated the look of that thick piece running down behind the rear doors on the cargo top. I ended up with a Bestop Trektop NX. Great flexible use top.
I've been researching (and just ordered) the ORH top, so I decided to revive this and share my experience as I install.

I will say for those interested; Tim Allen (owner of ORH) is a nice guy and usually calls back within the day. He is all caught up on inventory and apparently will ship mine out in a week.

Regarding your point - I have run the Trektop NX, and have installed a handful of them on other Jeeps. it really is a great product (the NX! the regular Trektop is garbage) and I would recommend it to others. But I wanted to try something different and I like that the ORH top is a little more modular. Fast back is an awesome look, but I want to try the cargo top with a basket over the rear for fuel cans or other things I don't want in the Jeep. So I got the combo so I can run whatever I want.
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I've been researching (and just ordered) the ORH top, so I decided to revive this and share my experience as I install.

I will say for those interested; Tim Allen (owner of ORH) is a nice guy and usually calls back within the day. He is all caught up on inventory and apparently will ship mine out in a week.

Regarding your point - I have run the Trektop NX, and have installed a handful of them on other Jeeps. it really is a great product (the NX! the regular Trektop is garbage) and I would recommend it to others. But I wanted to try something different and I like that the ORH top is a little more modular. Fast back is an awesome look, but I want to try the cargo top with a basket over the rear for fuel cans or other things I don't want in the Jeep. So I got the combo so I can run whatever I want.
Wow, he is caught up? That may be a first in his history. Good for him. Please, keep us/me updated on this. I really looked hard at the cargo, but as I said that rear section sort of turns me off. Still, I'd love to hear install/first impressions of the current models.
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Wow, he is caught up? That may be a first in his history. Good for him. Please, keep us/me updated on this. I really looked hard at the cargo, but as I said that rear section sort of turns me off. Still, I'd love to hear install/first impressions of the current models.

I will definitely post my experiences on here as I receive it and get it installed.

As for the Cargo Top... I'm not exactly sure how it will look either. But he was selling both tops for $950 a week ago, so I figured I didn't have much to lose on getting both.

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