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Old 04-16-2013, 07:39 PM   #91
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Got the cargo top portion installed. Holy Moly was the "duster" portion a tight fit with the tuffy deck installed and less than 80 degree temps. But, it is on and looks good. Well worth the wait and cost.



and with just the lower soft doors

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Got the cargo top portion installed. Holy Moly was the "duster" portion a tight fit with the tuffy deck installed and less than 80 degree temps. But, it is on and looks good. Well worth the wait and cost.



and with just the lower soft doors
What kind are your soft doors.. They looks real nice with the top.

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What kind are your soft doors.. They looks real nice with the top.
They are the Bestop JK soft doors, you need to futz with them a bit to get a good fit but there aren't a lot of options for doors you can fit in the back once you get to the trails. Here it is with the uppers in.

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Looks good! I like that cargo top. I think that's how I will be running mine most if the time (once I get it).
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They are the Bestop JK soft doors, you need to futz with them a bit to get a good fit but there aren't a lot of options for doors you can fit in the back once you get to the trails. Here it is with the uppers in.
Damn bro.. Your JK is dope.. If you don't mind sharing what did you pay for the complete door setup?
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Man that's the first time I've actually seen soft doors with the cargo top. Looks great. How is the noise with full soft doors and ORH top?
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Damn bro.. Your JK is dope.. If you don't mind sharing what did you pay for the complete door setup?
They were about $830. You can get them here:Bestop Part No. 51798-35 - Soft Hard Doors front and rear Bestop Part No. 51799-35 - Soft Hard Doors or Quadratec will match pricing. Would love to have factory half doors but that is about 4 grand.

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Man that's the first time I've actually seen soft doors with the cargo top. Looks great. How is the noise with full soft doors and ORH top?
The soft doors are way noisier than the top. The top alone is a touch more noisy than my factory soft top but the doors require some real work to quiet down. This video has the best explanation/recommendation for how to make them fit better and quiet the flapping on the driver door panels.

But, given all that driving it with the soft doors is like old CJ I had. There is no armrest on the door, you need to unzip not press a button to open the window. as much as that is a pain when I get to the trails, the front uppers fit on top of the tuffy security deck under the tonneau cover and the rest of the doors stack in the back under the deck. No matter what, driving it with the soft doors on to get somewhere is less noisy than driving with no doors but I get to pull them off in about 5 minutes when I get there. That is priceless.
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They were about $830. You can get them here:Bestop Part No. 51798-35 - Soft Hard Doors front and rear Bestop Part No. 51799-35 - Soft Hard Doors or Quadratec will match pricing. Would love to have factory half doors but that is about 4 grand.

The soft doors are way noisier than the top. The top alone is a touch more noisy than my factory soft top but the doors require some real work to quiet down. This video has the best explanation/recommendation for how to make them fit better and quiet the flapping on the driver door panels.

But, given all that driving it with the soft doors is like old CJ I had. There is no armrest on the door, you need to unzip not press a button to open the window. as much as that is a pain when I get to the trails, the front uppers fit on top of the tuffy security deck under the tonneau cover and the rest of the doors stack in the back under the deck. No matter what, driving it with the soft doors on to get somewhere is less noisy than driving with no doors but I get to pull them off in about 5 minutes when I get there. That is priceless.
Your Jeep looks great. I think the soft doors look better with the ORH cargo top than the OEM top. I've been waffling back and forth on getting these all winter.

Any luck with keeping rain out? I'm thinking they would be nice for those 30% chance of rain days, where I feel a little uneasy leaving my Jeep in the parking lot all day with no doors waiting for that one drifting rain cloud to find me.
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anybody know if the fastback windows and rear panel will fit in this storage bag?

Jeep Soft Top Accessories, Window Storage Bag For 07-12 Jeep Wrangler JK
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How much is shipping within Canada (this company is from Edmonton)? That freight cost listed is outrageous...

Any of these setups waterproof like the factory soft top?
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How much is shipping within Canada (this company is from Edmonton)? That freight cost listed is outrageous...

Any of these setups waterproof like the factory soft top?
I've been arguing this on another thread, but in short the ORH top is not as waterproof as the factory top. It seems most haven't seen it leak at all, some even after years of use, but mine leaks right down the backs of the seats during heavy rain which is common where I live.. The center channel design can only shed so much water before it overflows into the Jeep. I guess it all depends on what is really considered heavy rain and how often do you see it where you live. Apparently I see heavy rain more than everybody else.
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Your Jeep looks great. I think the soft doors look better with the ORH cargo top than the OEM top. I've been waffling back and forth on getting these all winter.

Any luck with keeping rain out? I'm thinking they would be nice for those 30% chance of rain days, where I feel a little uneasy leaving my Jeep in the parking lot all day with no doors waiting for that one drifting rain cloud to find me.
Thanks! it has been a fun (but expensive) project. Well, yes and no to the rain. Without bending them like shown in the video I posted, the seals do not really make good contact with the upper door frame so water has an easier time of entry. After bending, they hold pretty good, "shower" proof but not hard rain, or high pressure wash proof. Good enough for me to keep passing showers out. I haven't tried driving with them in the rain but as they don't bend out anymore allowing air gaps, I'm hoping any water will be shed as well.

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anybody know if the fastback windows and rear panel will fit in this storage bag?
While I don't have that one, I know they fit well in this one as it is the model I have and my windows all fit Bestop 42810-09 - Bestop HOSS™ Window Storage Duffle in Charcoal For Bestop and Factory Zip Out Vinyl Windows - Quadratec
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I guess the only real waterproof option is the factory soft top design. Good to know. This is definitely a gorgeous top though...
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I guess the only real waterproof option is the factory soft top design. Good to know. This is definitely a gorgeous top though...
Well, for what it is worth, I've carwashed my ORH fastback with no leaks which is the same as my factory top. The cargo, I have not tried yet but given the configuration of the rear window (seat belt pass-through) it would not be quite as water tight.
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How much is shipping within Canada (this company is from Edmonton)? That freight cost listed is outrageous...

Any of these setups waterproof like the factory soft top?
Yeah shipping costs are a bit high but either way supposedly this top is worth the $$$. I wanted this top and was willing to pay it. Apparently he is having no trouble selling these things so I don't foresee the price going down anytime soon.
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Yeah shipping costs are a bit high but either way supposedly this top is worth the $$$. I wanted this top and was willing to pay it. Apparently he is having no trouble selling these things so I don't foresee the price going down anytime soon.
Only way they would go down in price is if they were mass produced, but he makes them all his self.
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While I don't have that one, I know they fit well in this one as it is the model I have and my windows all fit Bestop 42810-09 - Bestop HOSS™ Window Storage Duffle in Charcoal For Bestop and Factory Zip Out Vinyl Windows - Quadratec[/QUOTE]

So i think the same storage duffle you have came with the hoss hardtop cover i ordered. the windows seem to fit but how do you roll it up with plastic seams? this cover rolls up from the short side which means the plastic then needs to roll up as well.
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While I don't have that one, I know they fit well in this one as it is the model I have and my windows all fit Bestop 42810-09 - Bestop HOSS™ Window Storage Duffle in Charcoal For Bestop and Factory Zip Out Vinyl Windows - Quadratec
So i think the same storage duffle you have came with the hoss hardtop cover i ordered. the windows seem to fit but how do you roll it up with plastic seams? this cover rolls up from the short side which means the plastic then needs to roll up as well.[/QUOTE]

Correct. You do need to roll up the long edge of plastic (that goes under the "tub" portion of the body but it leaves the door portion flat. Of the two that is far more important to keep straight. The long edge will easily "flatten" back out and not cause any issues from being rolled up. Also, roll it loose, not trying to make the roll the smallest size possible. I'll try to take a pic of mine tonight / tomorrow to show.
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So i think the same storage duffle you have came with the hoss hardtop cover i ordered. the windows seem to fit but how do you roll it up with plastic seams? this cover rolls up from the short side which means the plastic then needs to roll up as well.
Correct. You do need to roll up the long edge of plastic (that goes under the "tub" portion of the body but it leaves the door portion flat. Of the two that is far more important to keep straight. The long edge will easily "flatten" back out and not cause any issues from being rolled up. Also, roll it loose, not trying to make the roll the smallest size possible. I'll try to take a pic of mine tonight / tomorrow to show.[/QUOTE]

thanks, what do you mean by door portion? just trying to understand why that is important to keep straight. sorry if this is a dumb question, but since i have yet to do the initial install of the ORH top (it is currently snowing in wisconsin) i dont have a good mental picture of what i am dealing with.
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So the side windows are like a long triangle. The short side is the door side and the long edge goes under the rim of the cargo portion of your JK. Since the door side is so short and there is a need to wrap it around the metal door frame, rolling that up would make installing it a real pain.

The longer plastic edge that goes in the cargo portion gets less "bent" in the roll and there is more room to work it in so it is less of an issue that way.

I know this prolly doesn't make sense to you and I apologize but once you start the assembly it will. Again, I'll try to get a pic of it in the storage duffel as well.
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i took the windows and rear panel out and see what you mean. this looks like it will work great. i put one window outside down and the next layer was outside up to have a plastic sleeve on each side rather than doubled up. i then put the rear panel on the next layer, folded the final cover over that and folded the excess of the rear panel over that final protective sheet. let me know if i am missing something. thanks for the help!
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i took the windows and rear panel out and see what you mean. this looks like it will work great. i put one window outside down and the next layer was outside up to have a plastic sleeve on each side rather than doubled up. i then put the rear panel on the next layer, folded the final cover over that and folded the excess of the rear panel over that final protective sheet. let me know if i am missing something. thanks for the help!
Yep! that is exactly how I did mine. I was real happy at how they fit in the roll. The two door bars slide in on the outside and are held by the straps that keep the whole thing rolled up making a complete package for when you want to run with only the bikini top on. Pretty slick, good work!
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So I was going to install my top today and decided to lay everything out.. It looks like parts are missing. I watched the video on line and none of the pieces I have match with what's on the video..of course I didn't receive any instructions but I am pretty handy when it comes to this type of stuff.. I've called Tim for past couple weeks because it did not make sense that the parts I received did not look like they were complete.. I ordered the multitop and it looks like they are mixed pieces with missing parts like pieces if the top and frame.. WTF!! I am starting to get pissed off..
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So I was going to install my top today and decided to lay everything out.. It looks like parts are missing. I watched the video on line and none of the pieces I have match with what's on the video..of course I didn't receive any instructions but I am pretty handy when it comes to this type of stuff.. I've called Tim for past couple weeks because it did not make sense that the parts I received did not look like they were complete.. I ordered the multitop and it looks like they are mixed pieces with missing parts like pieces if the top and frame.. WTF!! I am starting to get pissed off..
I have the multi top coming as well. Keep us posted what you find out!
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I hope my top is complete

Should be here soon. By soon I mean by off road heroes definition. He said probably two weeks a week ago so that probably means a month minimum.
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The fastback portion of the multitop ships separately from the cargo set up. I called tim the other day and asked why he left me a message with another tracking number after I'd already taken delivery. That was his reason.
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So I was going to install my top today and decided to lay everything out.. It looks like parts are missing. I watched the video on line and none of the pieces I have match with what's on the video..of course I didn't receive any instructions but I am pretty handy when it comes to this type of stuff.. I've called Tim for past couple weeks because it did not make sense that the parts I received did not look like they were complete.. I ordered the multitop and it looks like they are mixed pieces with missing parts like pieces if the top and frame.. WTF!! I am starting to get pissed off..
Mine was complete. However, I sold mine because I decided the wind noise was more than I wanted. While waiting for the top, I decided to move into an apt. with a garage. After taking a 300 mile trip yesterday, I'm glad I kept the hardtop. The ORH top would have been annoying for that long of a trip. I must be getting older because my soft top on my '06 Rubicon never bothered me.
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Mine was complete. However, I sold mine because I decided the wind noise was more than I wanted. While waiting for the top, I decided to move into an apt. with a garage. After taking a 300 mile trip yesterday, I'm glad I kept the hardtop. The ORH top would have been annoying for that long of a trip. I must be getting older because my soft top on my '06 Rubicon never bothered me.
Dallas, in another thread you mentioned that you were going to rhino-line your Jeep and keep your hardtop. I assume you're ditching your carpets? Wouldn't that be a much louder mod?

My OEM soft top is pretty quite, especially compared to the ORH top, but everybody swears the ORH top quiets down after it stretches. I'll give it another few months, but I'm skeptical. I'm going to try the liners this year and see if that makes a difference.
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be quite as water tight.
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Dallas, in another thread you mentioned that you were going to rhino-line your Jeep and keep your hardtop. I assume you're ditching your carpets? Wouldn't that be a much louder mod?

My OEM soft top is pretty quite, especially compared to the ORH top, but everybody swears the ORH top quiets down after it stretches. I'll give it another few months, but I'm skeptical. I'm going to try the liners this year and see if that makes a difference.
Actually no. The LineX didn't make my TJ louder. What I didn't like about the ORH top was the wind noise, road noise on hwy and a few other things as well. Not sure I would like a OEM soft top either. The HT with a hoist installed is still the easiest solution for taking your top off. 8 bolts and then a few cranks of the hoist and done. LineX was probably the best mod I ever did to the TJ.

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