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Old 08-14-2010, 07:13 PM   #1
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Oil change indication after first 2600 miles.

I searched and searched but no results, I know there have been posts in the past because I read them so sorry for the repeat thread.

This is my first new vehicle.

I have a 2010 Sahara with 2600 miles on it and the oil service light is on, common sense tells me to change it but the manual says do it at 6000 miles. I will get it done anyway but I wanted some input from all you gear heads out there. Does the change oil light come on at a set mileage or does it actually know when it should be changed do to metal debris etc.?

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Old 08-14-2010, 07:18 PM   #2
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Same thing happened to mine at exactly 2502 miles. I went ahead and changed it because the light came on. I'm assuming that Chrysler programed the oil change light to come on right at 2500 miles so I'll just give em the benefit of doubt about getting it changed a little early. It is a brand new engine and does have some debris that's coming out of it as its being broken in. Bottom line, it can't hurt your Jeep to change it now and it will make that light go away without having to reset your computer.

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I had the same thing happen. See the thread at http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/cli...dal-58054.html. It paperers that the interval is programable but I've not looks it up in the operators manual yet.
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I agree, besides they (the dealer) sent me a coupon for a free oil change.
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:46 PM   #5
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I work as a salesman for a Jeep store. I don't care what the manual says, I tell everyone the same thing. Get an oil change every 3000 miles, or when your Jeep tells you to via the indicator, whichever comes first.
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:26 PM   #6
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I work as a salesman for a Jeep store. I don't care what the manual says, I tell everyone the same thing. Get an oil change every 3000 miles, or when your Jeep tells you to via the indicator, whichever comes first.
I agree. Everyone on this forum pretty much spends thousands on their rigs, including mods, and then most seem to want to wait for at least 6,000 before they change the oil because it might be a "waste" of $. I don't get it. I'll go one better. Properly break in the engine (according to the manual) and then use the free oil change at 1,500. Then, change it again at 3,000 so you're running cleaner oil through the engine at a critical time in it's life & then every 3,000 after that. The cheapest insurance you can buy for your JK. Old school, maybe, but my 10 Rubi and 89 YJ use zero oil betwwen changes and run great. The Rubi even has power without using a chip which possibly I can blame on having a 6spd. What happened when a computer wasn't able to tell us when to change the oil?
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I just checked the owner's manual and it states that the oil change light is not based on miles driven, but is based on type of driving, etc. I'm guessing they simply base oil change on the number of gallons of gas used. I'm also speculating that Jeep forces the first oil change at 2500 for obvious reasons.
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For those in Canada - mine came on after 4000 kilometers. I went and had it changed.
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Mine also came on at 2,600 miles. Dealer told me to wait until 3,000 and then have it changed. I did it at 3,000 and switched to Mobile 1 Synthetic oil. Plan to change it again at 6,000 and then every 6,000 thereafter.
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Same thing happened on both my 08 and 10 Sahara (3,200 Km)

At 6K I am switching to synthetic on the 2010.
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Can anyone with a few more miles on a 2010 tell us what the oil change interval has been after break in?
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Unfortunatly the indicator does not take into account if you are running synthetic or dino oil. Intervals can be stretched longer with synthetic. I go to 5000 miles with synthetic where as I would change at 3000 with dino.
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Good stuff, thanks.
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It's all done with an oil life sensor. The change oil message comes up 500 miles before you are actually due for the oil change to give you time to schedule the service at your dealer. I do mine every 3k mile or 3 months whichever comes first. Owners manual states every 6/6
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Same thing happened to me while I was 500 miles from my coupon. Took it to a dealer and they told me, the computers are set to go off when the oil breaks down to "x" value or when it hits miles set by the factory. 99% are still set with 3000 miles as the setting, even though oil change is only required 6k. Reset it and do it every other alert and you will be fine.

Most cars now have higher milage between changes and if you switch to syn, you are more than safe w/ 6k between changes with daily driving and off road fun every now and again.
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mine didn't come on until I had about 4600... maybe there really is a sensor in there!
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OK, I'll weigh in on the oil change train. I've posted many times on this topic.

Manual says no need to change break in oil as it has been done at the factory...so I didn't do it. It got it's first change at 6K. I was very specific at the dealer about this and said to them that I better not see the oil change message at 3K. They set it to 6K interval. It will trigger earlier than that limit if you spend a lot of time in 4low. There is an algorithm to trigger it early but will trigger 500 miles before the limit if it is not triggered early by the algorithm. Mine has never triggered early and I just had it in for it's 36000 mile PM. It always triggers at 500 miles before 6K.

The last oil change I had done in Florida on vacation and didn't say anything to them and the gosh darn dealer set the thing at 3K so I reset it and will get it in at 6K.

Regarding the post having to do with spending all that money on the jeep only to cheap out on oil, I would totally disagree. I keep my vehicles typically at least until 120K miles and then sell them. The jeep will probably be an exception to this as I have no immediate plans to turn it over even at 120K miles. I'm going to keep driving this one well past that...at least that is what I see for now. Since I've owned cars, I have always changed oil at the larger interval which is typically somewhere between 6 and 7.5K miles. This has had no effect on the value at trade in or resale. The only car that I had that pushed a little oil was a 75 Pinto station wagon that I bought at 40K miles used. I don't know how it was cared for prior to me purchasing it but I drove it until it was totaled at 100K miles while it was parked and I was in my SCUBA class.

Now, that having been said my jeep has been consuming oil...a quart every 2K miles. Since the jeep was serviced in Florida, it has been 3K miles and I've only used 1/2 of a quart. The consumption of 1 quart per 2K miles had been consistent up until this last oil change...makes me wonder if the local dealer is using some cheap grade of oil. I pulled a sample in Florida and am going to have it tested to see what is going on.

In all of my vehicles I've used non synthetic oil with excellent results. My VW Jetta made it to 240K miles before I traded it in and it owed me nothing. It wasn't consuming oil even at that mileage. I expect my jeep to do the same. Changing the oil every 3K miles in my opinion only helps the oil companies and adds to the oil disposal problem. Some folks just can't help themselves on this issue and must change every 3K miles...I say do whatever floats your boat but don't expect to get any portion of your money back in added value at trade in time or resale time...because folks in the know just won't pay additional money for an overly maintained vehicle but dealerships will certainly froth at the wallet while taking your money trying to keep your vehicle in tip top shape...especially if you are willing to pay...they will even try and convince you that you are doing the best for your car (jeep in this case) even though the manufacturer says differently...go figure.
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Oh, ya...Click and Clack at "Car Talk" an NPR radio talk show about cars would tend to agree with the longer oil change interval on cars in general. They once took a Toyota (if memory serves me correctly) and wanted to see how long it lasted if they only changed the filter and not the oil. Well, I can't remember exactly how many miles it made it to but I can say that they were thoroughly impressed by how many miles it did go. Their general conclusion was that changing the oil earlier than recommended was not necessary.
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I was told by the dealer that factory specs call for an oil change every 6000 miles for a 2010. I ll be doing mine every 3000 thank you very much!
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How do you reset and then set your oil change warning. I would like to receive a warning to change the oil every 3,500 miles.
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I have only done one change thus far.... but have designated my "Trip B" odo reading as my official oil change marker. Very accurate and I dont have to have a sticker in the corner of my sheild...
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I was told by the dealer that factory specs call for an oil change every 6000 miles for a 2010. I ll be doing mine every 3000 thank you very much!
Chrysler is right on this. They have many years of experience on their engines and wouldn't advise customers to do something that would kill the engine and cause them to do a warranty replacement. The dealer on the other hand in my experience will advise you to change it as many times as they could possibly get away with because they make money hand over fist on customer service. Mine makes me feel bad for not doing oil changes at 3000. Over-servicing your vehicle is one of the Dealership's main pass-times.

Some folks can't help themselves on this issue as well. Sure, do whatever floats your boat but don't claim that somehow it increases the value of the jeep or will double the expected life of the engine. All it does is add to all of the quarts of oil that have to be disposed of and uses another quart of oil that will then have to be replaced on the shelf and sucked out of the ground.
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Just change it every 3000 miles and you cant go wrong.
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When to change your oil is like politics and religion

I'm also new to this 3.8 engine, but I developed a habit with the 4.0 Jeep and Land Rover engines I've been through that I'll continue with it. I check mine every few hundred miles and if I see that it's discolored (water or fuel contamination) or is loosing viscosity I'll change it early. Otherwise I go with manufacturer recommendation. If you off-road your truck or drive it hard this is probably a good idea ... my LR V8 was bad for fuel contamination after heavy trail runs (everything leaks on a LR including the piston rings).

Also, I've always used a really good quality oil and will more than likely use a full synthetic in my Jeep.

Of course I'll spend a lot of time on these boards reading other peoples experiences with this 3.8 before I make my final call
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Just change it every 3000 miles and you cant go wrong.
Just change it every 6,000 miles and you can't go wrong.

Yup, Like politics and religion. The debate goes on.

My opinion is based on 35 years of following what I preach with excellent results. I don't doubt that the early oil change folks would have similar results. They will have a wallet that is thinner than mine and if everybody does this, we will have spent many barrels of oil unnecessarily and the ecology will have to absorb all of this oil....somehow. Do what is best for your engine while trying to do the best for future generations at the same time. Just because you bought a gas guzzling model of car doesn't mean you have to kick nature in the plutz in every way about how you maintain it. Oops, I guess I got on my soap box. I'll get down now. Let the discussion continue. Careful not to be too harsh on me. I know that there are some passionate people out there on this topic. Cheers.
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It might be time to get some pop corn.
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hmmmmmmmmmm. Thanks for the heads up JK. Im gonna do a little digging and see what I can come up with. I would much rather go 6000 than 3000. It would save me a nice chunk of money, and keep people off their soap-boxes.... J/K
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I have never had my oil light come on. I change every 3k. It costs me a total of $35, synthetic oil and filter, how can that be a waste of money? Clean oil = cleaner running engine. All mechanics seem to agree, frequent oil changes are the best way to go......
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Why don't you split the difference, go 4500 for every oil change....I think that would work with synthetic..

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