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Old 06-02-2014, 12:10 PM   #1
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Oil Change Stickers

Just received my windshield oil change stickers from dblcrona. Just like you get from the garage except better cause they come with either a jeep grill or jk stamped into them. Anyone want any just send him a pm. Priced right,shipped fast. I'm well pleased.

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I don't get it. Why do you need those? Doesn't the Jeep come with a maintenance reminder system (honest question, as I'm new to the Jeep)?

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Jeeps do come with a reminder on the EVIC screen, which will update as you update the computer when you change the oil. Maybe the OP doesn't update his computer or maybe he just prefers the visible mileage reminder so he knows when he is getting close, rather than having to wait for the light to come on?

So he knows he needs to buy oil/filter before the light comes on... Just an idea.
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I write mine on the windshield with a grease pencil. been doing it for years. rite it on, wipe it off. I'm also a lefty. my drivers door window in my work truck is my note pad. people do look at me funny when they see me writing on the window.
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Old 06-02-2014, 03:57 PM   #5
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By having it visible it helps to remind ya that it's about due,that way ya can plan on doing it when ya want to instead of when ya have to.
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I see. Thanks.
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Use the OBII Iphone setup, hell of a lot different from the old days when you pulled dip stick to see if oil was dirty.
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I write mine on the windshield with a grease pencil. been doing it for years. rite it on, wipe it off. I'm also a lefty. my drivers door window in my work truck is my note pad. people do look at me funny when they see me writing on the window.
I like the grease pencil, think I'll try that. I've been using paint pens for a long time, I put it on top of the radiator and wipe it clean with brake clean but your way sounds better.
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The Jeep has 2 trip meters. I use the first for tracking my mileage and figuring out my MPGs. I use the second to track my oil change mileage. That's what I do. No sticker required for a built in feature.
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I use the" road trip" app, it helps because it tracks MPG and what I pay for expenses also has a oil reminder built in. Lots of little thing it will do as well
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Here's a question. Normally with my old 2002 Saturn it was every 3000 miles or 3 months. Just bought a 2012 JK. Book says every 6 months or 8,000 miles. Obviously it's for real but is it recommended? I'll hit 6 months way before I ever hit 8,000 miles
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I like the grease pencil, think I'll try that. I've been using paint pens for a long time, I put it on top of the radiator and wipe it clean with brake clean but your way sounds better.
Yep.. I used to do the paint and toe tag thing in the Army. Writing dates on filters and all kinds of crap. that said, I still do it today at home. The grease pencil was for windows ie: radio freq's, map grids and other stuff.

I prefer using red, as it shows better than black (both day and night IMO). at the top of the driver side windshield. a friend of mine has started to do the same, but he writes it on the rear view mirror.
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Here's a question. Normally with my old 2002 Saturn it was every 3000 miles or 3 months. Just bought a 2012 JK. Book says every 6 months or 8,000 miles. Obviously it's for real but is it recommended? I'll hit 6 months way before I ever hit 8,000 miles
I personally don't believe in the extended intervals, I think its a scam to keep the "consumer cost" to be perceived as less,.if you think about it, on the 2007 wranglers they had a 3 month 3,00 mile interval as well, in 2008 they magically switched to 6 months 6,000 miles. of course we all know a lot of 3.8 engines have a hard enough time making it to the 3,000 mile interval without needing to add 3 quarts of oil and are bone dry before 6,000 miles......

obviously the 3.6 is a different engine and hasn't had widespread oil consumption issues but I personally wouldn't go more than 4,000 miles/6 months, maybe even less on mileage....if I was going to go further I would use synthetic and check it frequently and change when dirty unless it was still clean longer, I have seen a lot of people do 5-6k on the 3.6 without issue on standard oil yet after up to 100k miles but Im kinda old school and would have to do sooner just to feel ok about it...

the 6 month thing I have no problem with as I always thought it was a short interval on engines that were a recommended 3 month/3,000 mile intervals, i do an average of 3,000 miles in 3 months tho so never had to worry about it, i think if i quit driving as much i wouldn't hesitate to wait 6 months using a 3,000 mile interval if that was all that i drove, my plow/work trucks see very little use and i actually only do 1 oil change/1000 miles per year and they've always been clean when changed and never engine troubles, i personally am more concerned with mileage and/or engine run time over actual time intervals not exceeding 6 months on a daily driver

the dealership i work at we still put 3 months/3,000 miles on the window stickers unless requested different regardless if its a diesel or what the manufacturer spec is, everybody has there own opinion on this and almost ever car is a different spec so the 3/3 thing is more of a reminder as to when it was changed so they can figure it out themselves.

also to those who rely on the maintance light alone, just so you know it doesn't always come on....the owners manual says 8,000 miles or 6 months reguardless of oil reminder light for this reason that the light doesn't always come on within these peramiters, for example when you go on a long trip and/or a lot of medium trips like in commuter driver circumstances especially in warmer driving climates...Chrysler might deny a warranty claim based on not doing oil changes within the time interval and it can be easy to forget if you only rely on the light.....
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Thanks for the information. Really appreciate it
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Old 06-04-2014, 09:07 PM   #15
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We just have ours done every 3 months which equals approximately every 2,000 miles. It's a free service and we just say thank you whenever they suggest having other services done while we're they that are not free. I do all my own routine maintenance unless it's free. I'm wise to their free oil change promotion thing.
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Here's a question. Normally with my old 2002 Saturn it was every 3000 miles or 3 months. Just bought a 2012 JK. Book says every 6 months or 8,000 miles. Obviously it's for real but is it recommended? I'll hit 6 months way before I ever hit 8,000 miles
They would put it in the manual if the engineers and lawyers didn't believe in it. Oil technology has come along way.

BMW go 20k km or 1 a year for oil changes.

There is nothing wrong with waiting till the recommended intervals. They wouldn't have them if there was cause they would be fixing a lot of vehicles under warranty for free.
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Don't listen to the uneducated who are comparing 7yr -10 yr old engines with 7-10yr old oil technology. They aren't engineers and are being over cautious and just adding to the shortage of oil around the world because wasting it makes them feel better about there vehicles .
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We just have ours done every 3 months which equals approximately every 2,000 miles. It's a free service and we just say thank you whenever they suggest having other services done while we're they that are not free. I do all my own routine maintenance unless it's free. I'm wise to their free oil change promotion thing.
The oil companies thank you.

If you change it every 3 months, why not every month? I mean, what's your reason? After all, it's free for you, isn't it? Just curious.
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The oil companies thank you. If you change it every 3 months, why not every month? I mean, what's your reason? After all, it's free for you, isn't it? Just curious.
1. They like global warming and want to do everything possible to assist it.

2. They have really good coffee and snacks in the waiting room.

3. It's free AC in the waiting room(we had old people that would come in and sit around for 4hours waiting for there car instead of a free shuttle home because it was too hot outside and they were too cheap to turn on the AC at home lmao)
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They would put it in the manual if the engineers and lawyers didn't believe in it. Oil technology has come along way.

BMW go 20k km or 1 a year for oil changes.

There is nothing wrong with waiting till the recommended intervals. They wouldn't have them if there was cause they would be fixing a lot of vehicles under warranty for free.
so your saying you trust engineers and lawyers and they are never wrong?

most bmw's require an expensive special weight synthetic oil to run those distances and have more oil capacity per liter of displacement than the average American engine with the same liters of displacement....

not trying to start an argument just saying that trusting lawyers would be just plain crazy and trusting engineers on these modern vehicles is about as bad imo. the first year of the 3.6 engine vs the 1st year of the 3.8 or 4.0 engines id like to see a side-by-side comparison of dollar amounts chrsyler shelled out for internal engine warranty repairs, I sure don't remember having engine issues like we do today with the "old" engines (when they were new) like they do with the "modern" engines. I think its pretty safe to say they already are spending a lot to fix vehicles under warranty for free.

I really haven't noticed any more problems with people going extended distances vs 3,000 miles but I have seen a lot of things wrong with these new engines at a much lower mileage than the old ones ever seemed to have and really wonder what problems time and high mileage will bring with them....ironically enough they all seem to have the same issues, cam phasers, heads, oil filter housing leaks, wiped cam lobes, 2 stage oil pumps, blue smoke at time of cold start, ticking valvetrain, dead lifters and broken rocker arms..... all reasons why I don't think engineers words shouldn't be taken as gold on the pentastar engine. those problems may not all be engineerings fault either as it could be quality control and manufacturing flaws causing some of the those issues. a lot of parts are "engineered" to only last a specified amount of time, like for example until the warranty runs out.......

I mainly just wanted to say if going extended distances its still a good idea to check tire pressures and monitor oil level in between changes and like I said earlier don't fully rely on the oil reminder light because it doesn't always come on in an 8,000 mile period...... if I had a 3.6, hell yea I would change the oil sooner than 8k miles probably more like half that....
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The oil companies thank you.
This. Oil change places were sued for recommending 3k miles. There was no validity. That's why grease monkey (I think) changed. The employees at one told me. Hurt their business.

I changed my fords oil every 5k. It went over 275k miles with no engine work other than a leak. When the removed the cover, they were stunned at how good it looked.

I just change it at 5k. 10k. 15k. No sticker required
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I see this thread had been derailed already, so I'll add my opinion to it, while not starting the good old internet fight.

To the OP. post a pic. of the oil change sticker, I'd like to see it.

I'll feed the oil company's.... they have us all by the balls anyway. I try change the oil on all my vehicles at 3500+/- miles for piece of mind, and what's recommended by a few mechanic friends. I'm not going to wait for an idiot light to tell me to do so (if it even comes on). That said, the manual states. severe service oil change as early as 3500 miles, severe duty 4000 miles. (what's the difference) and under no circumstances should the oil interval exceed 10,000m or 12 months. So, theoretically, my oil change could be anywhere from once to almost four times a year based on 12k miles and how it's driven..

No thanks on that.

I'd rather spend $50. (calling it high) on 3000 mile oil changes 4 times a year (based on 12,000m) at $200 a year.. over 5 years at a grand, then wait for a light and a warranty to run out, and have to possibly replace an engine for several thousand more, because of sludge and plugged oil journals / passages while waiting for a little light to come on. I'll admit oil has come a long way, but a 1972 Corvette oil change interval was 4 months/6000 miles. or 2 months/3000 miles for severe duty. Granted engine tolerances might not have been as tight then, as they are today. Along with running this crap corn fed fuel today isn't helping the issue either. but the intervals don't sound like they changed too much after 40 years of engine advancement.

I'm done rambling. I change it when I want to. Till I see it stating "Do not change" till x amount of time and miles, it's on me. And I have no problem with that
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My above oil change info is from my 2014 owners manual, for clarification.
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Here is the best policy. Ignore mileage. Check you're oil every few weeks. when it gets sufficiently dirty for you change it.

Edit: thats for a daily driver. for a trail rig or something else that sits alot change it every 6 months.
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I just change mine every 5k miles. Easy to remember.
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The oil companies thank you.

If you change it every 3 months, why not every month? I mean, what's your reason? After all, it's free for you, isn't it? Just curious.
As long as you're asking...

When we bought our Jeep it came with free lifetime oil and filter changes from our particular dealer. In order to maintain the free lifetime oil change program we are required to have the oil changed 4x per year by their dealership. It doesn't matter if we drive it 100 miles or 10,000 miles between oil changes, as long as the end result is 4 oil changes per year.

It's my wife's DD and she puts around 8,000 miles per year on it. Thus, around every 2,000 miles it gets an oil change. Kind of silly, IMHO, but it's their rule.
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not trying to start an argument just saying that trusting lawyers would be just plain crazy and trusting engineers on these modern vehicles is about as bad imo.
Seriously? You're inferreing that the people who spend years studying engineering based on generations of proven scientific work and who actually built the thing are not the ones to rely on when it comes to questions like "How do I keep it going?"

Who would you suggest I ask about oil changes, my pool guy?
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Who would you suggest I ask about oil changes, my pool guy?
No no no. You got it all wrong. You are supposed to ask at a McDonald's drive thru
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I thought people would just know the answer if they spent a night at a Holiday Inn Express.

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