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Old 05-13-2013, 08:06 PM   #1
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Time to replace my battery. In your opinion and experience, which battery do you recommend?

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Die Hard Platinum
Or Orbital....same thing, I know..
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X2 on the Diehard platinum...expensive but its worth it.I had the yellow top Optima prior to that and it only lasted 13 months.But I have a red top Optima that is older than the yellow but still going strong so go figure.
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Why pay $200 for a Sears battery when you can buy a Kirkland (Costco) for about $60-$70. It will start you Jeep and if it goes out before its time, Costco will either pro-rate it or give you another. Save your money and buy something else for your Jeep.
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The Kirkland Signature Car Batteries are manufactured by Johnson Controls. Johnson Controls also manufacturers what is probably the best brand battery you can buy for your car (And also available at most Costco’s) the Optima® brand of batteries. They make the LTH and Heliar brands for South American Markets. Johnson Controls also makes the Duralast/DL-Gold batteries at Autozone. I have ran Kirkland batteries in my cars before. I live at over 7,000 ft where it gets very cold. I have never had a problem with the batteries. My first one lasted 6 years.
Most auto batteries are made by just three manufacturers, Delphi, Exide, and Johnson Controls Industries. Johnson Controls makes Diehard (Sears), Duralast (AutoZone), Interstate, Kirkland (Costco), Motorcraft (Ford), and some EverStarts. – Source Consumer Reports
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Optima's quality has reportedly gone south with it's manufacturing.
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Why pay $200 for a Sears battery when you can buy a Kirkland (Costco) for about $60-$70. It will start you Jeep and if it goes out before its time, Costco will either pro-rate it or give you another. Save your money and buy something else for your Jeep.
Will they come jump you off if you are out in the middle of nowhere?
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Will they come jump you off if you are out in the middle of nowhere?
I can't believe you said this.
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Will they come jump you off if you are out in the middle of nowhere?
Just because a company makes products that are great does not mean that all there products are great.

But honestly I don't know much about this brand, I just know I have never had good luck with cheap batteries.
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I can't believe you said this.
Haha believe it. I have allways been a fan of running 2 anyways. Nothing sucks more then being stranded with a battery that decided to throw in the towel.
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Haha believe it. I have allways been a fan of running 2 anyways. Nothing sucks more then being stranded with a battery that decided to throw in the towel.
I agree but go back and think about how you said it.
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Like others said, Sears Die Hard Platinum.

I have had optimas in most of my vehicles, but after their production went south (literally and geographically) their quality control was so poor that I no longer give them business. The best batteries today are made by Odyssey, which happens to make the sears platinum series. Get the platinum.
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It's been a few days since I posted here but I'll chime in on the battery thing. I bought three Optima batteries at one time. Two were good and still in service. The other died quickly. I've always wonder why the warranty on that type battery is no longer than it is if they are actually as good as they are advertised to be.

I have no doubt the DieHard Gold is an excellent battery. I used to use Diehards until Sears withdrew from this area. I'm not going to drive 250 miles (round trip) to purchase a battery. I have used the Duralast Gold batteries from AutoZone (10 mile roundtrip) for several years now with excellent results. A pair of them have been starting my '03 Duramax for the last six + years and are still going strong although I'm beginning to worry about them because of their age.
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Optima's quality has reportedly gone south with it's manufacturing.
This^^^^
Optimas are now made with recycled lead, and the connections to the battery terminals on the interior of their batterys are made from thinner material, resulting in battery failures.
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I have run the Kirklands everywhere and they have no problems whatsoever, but if you want to spend the extra money, do it. However, instead of running 2 batteries, I always carry a power-block that is charged up and will start my Jeep and also has a compresssor to boot. As far as the quote about running cheap batteries (but doesn't know the brand), just because a battery costs less does not make it inferior or 'cheap'.

Though you may raise an eyebrow at the prospect of buying a battery labeled with Costco’s in-house brand, the Kirkland Signature Car Battery is a tough proposition to beat. First of all, these batteries carry highly competitive (and in some cases, superior) amp ratings and reserve capacities when compared to the leading high-end brands, yet costs a fraction of the price. Kirkland Signature car batteries come in a variety of sizes to fit just about every make and model out there, and each is backed with a no-questions-asked warranty in case of a failure. In short, the Kirkland Signature battery is affordable, reliable, high-performance, and is guaranteed to work, period. Enough said.
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If you don't run any electrical accessories and don't go offroad or drive out in the middle of nowhere, the Costco deal is a good value. I've used Costco batteries in other cars and trucks for years and continue to do so.

BUT....I put one in my Jeep and after a few months it was no longer holding it's charge for very long, causing me to need a jump a few times. I run a winch, an air compressor, and some auxiliary lights, and I also offroad, so the battery gets a lot of vibrations. When I'm out in the middle of nowhere, I need to be able to rely on my battery, and IMO I don't think the Costco batteries are cut out for that kind of stress. Costco's return policy is really good, and I returned the battery for a full refund, no problem.

I've been running dual Optima Yellow Top's in my Jeep now for the past 14 months, and I've had no problems. In addition to the electrical accessories mentioned above, I've added more lights, and I've been using an ARB fridge on trips for the past 8 or 9 months. The fridge runs all night and much of the day with the engine off, no problem. I run the stereo with the engine off for hours at a good volume level, no problem. I've run my rock lights for hours at night with the engine off while at camp so I can find I can find my way back to the Jeep in the dark (and inebriated ), no problem. So despite the negative comments some people make about the Optima's, mine have been serving me well so far.
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Why pay $200 for a Sears battery when you can buy a Kirkland (Costco) for about $60-$70. It will start you Jeep and if it goes out before its time, Costco will either pro-rate it or give you another. Save your money and buy something else for your Jeep.
One big difference may be the internals...

is the Kirkland an AGM battery?
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I just got a Duralast Gold battery for $110 that has higher reserve capacity, and higher cranking amps than any other battery on the market. The employee and I both agree that Optimas and all the like are a waste of cash.
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I too stand behind Optima. I deeply discharge my Yellow Top all the time, and it always charges back up. I've had duals for about a year now, and my ARB fridge sits running at around 34F all day and all night and never leaves the Jeep. I leave it for 3 days at a time and the battery still has charge, at around day 4, it tends to cut off. When camping, which we do often, and for extended periods, I also run accessory power to my trailer. At night, we use LED lighting in the tent, exterior camp lighting, inverters for laptops, 2 DC ports that charge phones and tablets, etc. My batteries go through a crazy cycle each time, and they take it like champs.

Unfortunately, being the largest manufacturer, Optima gets the "filthy" end of the stick online, because people like to complain when something goes wrong. If you're the largest volume seller, those complaints, even with a very small defect rate, will be larger for you, and will give the appearance that your quality is lower than those who sell a lot less batteries. Very few people start threads about how great their batteries are to even the playing field. One thing I have noticed is Optima jumping into these threads and trying to bend over backwards to help anyone having an issue with getting warranty service if they're eligible, and figuring out if their setups are optimal for battery health and longevity. I've personally gotten many hours worth of information from Optima regarding batteries, charging, best practices, into some good technical detail. They will take the time to answer all your questions, and you just can't beat that level of customer service. Believe me, if you ask them something, they will be there to help you out, and that's why I'm a loyal customer.
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I too stand behind Optima. I deeply discharge my Yellow Top all the time, and it always charges back up. I've had duals for about a year now, and my ARB fridge sits running at around 34F all day and all night and never leaves the Jeep. I leave it for 3 days at a time and the battery still has charge, at around day 4, it tends to cut off. When camping, which we do often, and for extended periods, I also run accessory power to my trailer. At night, we use LED lighting in the tent, exterior camp lighting, inverters for laptops, 2 DC ports that charge phones and tablets, etc. My batteries go through a crazy cycle each time, and they take it like champs.

Unfortunately, being the largest manufacturer, Optima gets the "filthy" end of the stick online, because people like to complain when something goes wrong. If you're the largest volume seller, those complaints, even with a very small defect rate, will be larger for you, and will give the appearance that your quality is lower than those who sell a lot less batteries. Very few people start threads about how great their batteries are to even the playing field. One thing I have noticed is Optima jumping into these threads and trying to bend over backwards to help anyone having an issue with getting warranty service if they're eligible, and figuring out if their setups are optimal for battery health and longevity. I've personally gotten many hours worth of information from Optima regarding batteries, charging, best practices, into some good technical detail. They will take the time to answer all your questions, and you just can't beat that level of customer service. Believe me, if you ask them something, they will be there to help you out, and that's why I'm a loyal customer.
My experience with Optima has been the exact opposite. About 10 years ago my buddy put a red top in his pickup. Ran it for several years with no issues. Swapped into a hoopty car he used as a DD. Car caught on fire, burned insulation off battery cables and partly melted the plastic on the corner of the battery. He thought the battery was done for. Still held a full charge. He took pics of the damage and sent them to Optima. Optima sent him a new red top and asked him to return the old one so they could check it out. At that point I was convinced there was no better vehicle battery for the money. Got one for my pickup. No issues for 2 years. Then it started to boil over and run down the sides and had trouble keeping a full charge. Tested charging system on pickup and all was fine.

Called Optima and asked if they knew why it would boil over (on a normal battery, typically overcharging or shorted cell would cause this)? Response I got was "Well a bit of moistness around the vent is normal but we don't know what would cause it to boil over"? "Seriously"? "Yeah we don't know, just return it under warranty".

Just a few years ago if the question of best battery came up, Optima was the overwhelming recommendation. But since then, something happened with their quality. Seen it not just on here but other automotive forums.
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I just got a Duralast Gold battery for $110 that has higher reserve capacity, and higher cranking amps than any other battery on the market. The employee and I both agree that Optimas and all the like are a waste of cash.
I think one of the things some of you are forgetting is the difference in batteries. I am not saying the duralast gold or the kirkland batteries are "bad" batteries. However, these are different than an optima or a diehard platinum in their composition. The optimas and diehards are AGM (absorbed glass mat) batteries which is better for the environment that many of us tend to expose our jeeps to. Comparing the duralasts/kirklands/walmarts to an AGM battery is kind of apples to oranges.
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I think one of the things some of you are forgetting is the difference in batteries. I am not saying the duralast gold or the kirkland batteries are "bad" batteries. However, these are different than an optima or a diehard platinum in their composition. The optimas and diehards are AGM (absorbed glass mat) batteries which is better for the environment that many of us tend to expose our jeeps to. Comparing the duralasts/kirklands/walmarts to an AGM battery is kind of apples to oranges.
That's what the 5 year warranty is for.

Save the cash and use it toward tires.
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That's what the 5 year warranty is for.

Save the cash and use it toward tires.
Several good points in this thread so far only thing is not all people think alike.

Some folks try to do things as cheap as they can and some people dont have a problem spending extra money on something that is (to them at least) a better product.

These are both legitimate trains of thought but it is pointless to try to convince someone who ask for the "best" battery that the cheapest one you can get your hands on is the "best".
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Personally I would stay away from Optima. I went thru 2 yellow tops in my CJ, which had a couple of rock lights & a Warn winch. I went with a deep cycle Interstate battery in my Jeep & never looked back. From my experience & some friend's experience with Optimas, I think they are highly over rated. And remember if you get an Optima the red top is not deep cycle. If you runs lights & a winch a deep cycle is a must. I also ran a small back-up battery in case I needed it. It was a small sealed deep cycle battery out of a wheel chair. The Interstate store sells them used for like $12. Has enough juice to crank an engine several times w/o needing a charge.

But Orbital batteries are good & I run an Odyssey battery in my dirt track car which has no alternator. My battery runs the ignition, fuel pump, gauges & gauge lights & the cooling fan & of course cranks the engine. I go all night w/o charging it & it holds up fine.
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+1. Made for them by Odyssey and at a fraction of the price. Amazing batteries. Pay attention for special sales coupons for ordering online (with store pickup). Sears is famous for them late at night and at the end of the month.
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+1. Put one in my LJ and one in my daughter's car as well.
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The problem here is that people are trying to compare 2 completely different batteries. On one had you have the cheaper batteries that are starting only type batteries. They are designed to take the quick big draw of the starter for a second until the vehicle is running. They aren't designed to run accessories without the engine running for a long period of time.

On the other hand you have more of a deep cycle battery, which the Die Hard Platinum is, that are designed to run electrical equipment for long periods of time without re-charging. Campers that aren't connected to a power outlet use deep cycle batteries to run lights and such. A deep cycle battery is designed to take the abuse of running things like winches and other 12v devices without the engine running and then still have the juice to start the jeep after. You should be able to leave your dome light on for a couple of days with a deep cycle battery and still start the engine. A "regular" car battery will probably be dead.

If you have no need to run accessories without the engine running then you probably don't "need" the Die Hard or Optima battery.

I also will be buying a battery soon. I have been trying hard to talk myself out of buying a battery from Sears. I don't really care for them but I have finally decided on the Sears battery. I have seen too many complaints about the Optima.

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