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Old 08-13-2013, 09:35 AM   #1
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Ordered my 14 JK Rub 2-door. $6k budget build advice

As the title states, I ordered my jk a week ago. I currently own a tj Rubicon 6" LA on 35s.
The new jk is replacing my '11 Subaru Wrx STi as a primary vehicle.
I haven't gotten to deep into my build list yet. I am fairly set on a long arm setup 3-3.5" on 37" tires. I usually wheel just about every weekend all summer long. I have my main wheeler. The 2003 Rubicon. But as my fiance is becoming much more interested in jeepin, I'd like to have two very capable rigs. (she was able to make it through all the 35" tire/locker required trails at Rocks and Valleys here in Michigan)
I figure I want to do things right from the start. Aside from coil overs. I may have to wait on them.
I'm looking for a versatile suspension, one that can handle the slow high articulation of crawling, yet be able to handle rough terrain at speed. Or should I just say be able to tackle Michigan roads.
I had thought about teraflex prerunner 3" or maybe rock krawler 3.5 x factor.
I really don't need any crazy fancy wheels. They won't stay pretty for long anyhow. Bumpers and winch will come as well.
I'm just namely concerned with maintaining a quality ride on and offroad. With parts that can take the abuse and not break the bank.

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As the title states, I ordered my jk a week ago. I currently own a tj Rubicon 6" LA on 35s.
The new jk is replacing my '11 Subaru Wrx STi as a primary vehicle.
I haven't gotten to deep into my build list yet. I am fairly set on a long arm setup 3-3.5" on 37" tires. I usually wheel just about every weekend all summer long. I have my main wheeler. The 2003 Rubicon. But as my fiance is becoming much more interested in jeepin, I'd like to have two very capable rigs. (she was able to make it through all the 35" tire/locker required trails at Rocks and Valleys here in Michigan)
I figure I want to do things right from the start. Aside from coil overs. I may have to wait on them.
I'm looking for a versatile suspension, one that can handle the slow high articulation of crawling, yet be able to handle rough terrain at speed. Or should I just say be able to tackle Michigan roads.
I had thought about teraflex prerunner 3" or maybe rock krawler 3.5 x factor.
I really don't need any crazy fancy wheels. They won't stay pretty for long anyhow. Bumpers and winch will come as well.
I'm just namely concerned with maintaining a quality ride on and offroad. With parts that can take the abuse and not break the bank.
Building a jk for 37's gets pricey, here is a quick basic breakdown with your long arm option

Gears...1400 could be more or less
Tires ....2000+
Tire carrier...700+
4" long arm ....2000
There is 6k

What's left
Reinforce front axle...250
Reinforce rear axle 150ish...I think
Ball joints....200
Sector shaft brace...150
Front and rear drie shafts...7-800
If you plan on wheeling tough stuff...psc ram assist...2200
Rims...???...it's all in what you prefer here but let's say average 750
High lift ...65-70
Hi lift mount 40-100


This is for parts aside from regear....depending on options labor would be 4-6k on top of that.

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Old 08-13-2013, 11:56 PM   #3
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Ya and you really don't need that much lift on a Jk. Your new rubi will be able to conquer what your old one did on much less than you think. 2.5 and 35s and you'd be all set. Maybe just a bunch of skids and armor but other than that, the rubi can handle the 35s and lift with not much help but you'll want to do some reinforcing/gussets to help a little
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Thanks for the input guys. I'm fairly set on 37s. The guys I wheel with run 37s. The 2 inches less of axle clearance that I have is what gets me stuck sometimes in following their line.
I have read a lot online and I hear many not regearing for 37s. I did go with the 4.10 factory gears and with the 4:1 rubi tcase I'm sure I'll be fine for a bit.
I did drive a dealer vehicle with 35s and 3.73s and it was really peppy still.
Was wheeling with a friend last weekend with our tjs I have 4.10 and 35s rubi tcase he has 4.88 37s no rubi tcase and I'm still much lower geared than him in 4 low.

This vehicle will still be a casual daily driver. 3-4 days a week. So I don't plan to beat on it to bad. I'll probably wait a couple years before I turn it into my main wheeler.
You listed a long arm kit for $2k. Where in the world would I get a quality kit for that cheap? I have seen nothing less than 3k total.
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Thanks for the input guys. I'm fairly set on 37s. The guys I wheel with run 37s. The 2 inches less of axle clearance that I have is what gets me stuck sometimes in following their line.
I have read a lot online and I hear many not regearing for 37s. I did go with the 4.10 factory gears and with the 4:1 rubi tcase I'm sure I'll be fine for a bit.
I did drive a dealer vehicle with 35s and 3.73s and it was really peppy still.
Was wheeling with a friend last weekend with our tjs I have 4.10 and 35s rubi tcase he has 4.88 37s no rubi tcase and I'm still much lower geared than him in 4 low.

This vehicle will still be a casual daily driver. 3-4 days a week. So I don't plan to beat on it to bad. I'll probably wait a couple years before I turn it into my main wheeler.
You listed a long arm kit for $2k. Where in the world would I get a quality kit for that cheap? I have seen nothing less than 3k total.
Yeah...it was late...I meant 3k.
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...also it's only 1" of clearance on the axle that you gain with 37's over 35's...my jk is built for 37's but I decided to stick with 35's because after lifting 37's at the shop I'd rather not deal with them if I catch a flat...
If you are wanting to clear the 37's with suspension only you need to be at 4+ inches of lift. The jk arms are a good deal longer than TJ arms so if you went short arm I think you would be surprised at the ride quality and you could save some coin on the lift to bring you closer to your budget.
If you want to go with a shorter lift you will need to go with a higher clearance flare or trim your flares. I am not a big fan of trimmed flares as it doesn't make sense to drop several thousand into upgrades and cut the flares to save money...everyone that has them is always saying "check this out...I did this myself" I am always polite and say it looks great, but it doesn't...it looks cheap and flimsy...at best...alright, off the soapbox.
Clearance is one half of the battle with 37's. The other half is in making sure your drivetrain can handle the weight.
Common problems are bending axle tubes, bending outer c's on the front axle, and sector shaft issues. Also, 35's are about at the top end of what the factory steering box can handle effectively offroading.
I think 37's are great, especially on a jku that needs more break over, I just like people to know what they are in for. 35 to 37 on a jk is essentially the same leap as 33 to 35 on your TJ.
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:28 PM   #7
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Rock krawler 3.5" mid arm w/ bilsteins = 1600
Wheels/tires = 2500
Flat fenders = 700
Tf tire carrier = 700
Gusset/sleeve = 500

That would get you started
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As the title states, I ordered my jk a week ago. I currently own a tj Rubicon 6" LA on 35s.
The new jk is replacing my '11 Subaru Wrx STi as a primary vehicle.
I haven't gotten to deep into my build list yet. I am fairly set on a long arm setup 3-3.5" on 37" tires. I usually wheel just about every weekend all summer long. I have my main wheeler. The 2003 Rubicon. But as my fiance is becoming much more interested in jeepin, I'd like to have two very capable rigs. (she was able to make it through all the 35" tire/locker required trails at Rocks and Valleys here in Michigan)
I figure I want to do things right from the start. Aside from coil overs. I may have to wait on them.
I'm looking for a versatile suspension, one that can handle the slow high articulation of crawling, yet be able to handle rough terrain at speed. Or should I just say be able to tackle Michigan roads.
I had thought about teraflex prerunner 3" or maybe rock krawler 3.5 x factor.
I really don't need any crazy fancy wheels. They won't stay pretty for long anyhow. Bumpers and winch will come as well.
I'm just namely concerned with maintaining a quality ride on and offroad. With parts that can take the abuse and not break the bank.
Funny, im thinking about getting a rubi, I have a 2013 wrx now
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IMHO you dont need long arms for JKs unless of course if thats what you really want.
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Old 08-18-2013, 01:38 PM   #10
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Funny, im thinking about getting a rubi, I have a 2013 wrx now
I love my car, but I do so much more with my jeep. There are events going on pretty much year round. And you can actually go and use them to their extent. There is no where near by I can go beat the snot out of my STi without going to jail.

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