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Old 02-01-2012, 10:17 PM   #31
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kbbwolf I love your top I am real close to pulling the trigger on a ORH top myself. What was your purchase experience like? I have read some bad some good but ultimately almost everybody seems to love the top when they get it.

See post #28.

I did a ton of research into both Tim and his tops before I ever contacted him. Because of that, I knew exactly what I was getting into. Some people wait months for his tops; some get them in weeks. It kinda depends on where he is, in terms of getting them ready, when you order.

There's a lot of bad blood on some of the Jeep forums, mostly from folks who felt like his customer service was crappy. And it pretty much is. That didn't bother me.

You can't even type "ORH tops" on JKF...they'll wipe it out with asterisks, and you'll get a PM telling you why his product sucks. But the same thing applies to the sPOD, as well. Funny, I've got both.

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you wouldn't happen to know the tint percentage on that, would you?
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Also, KB, let us know what the process is to take it down and where everything is stored when it's all down?
I will. I gotta adjust the side windows, anyway. Just have to wait a couple more days till the bikini sections stretch out a bit.

Taking the side and rear windows off is a matter of undoing two zippers, then pulling the plastic flanges out and unwrapping the rear window from the tailgate bar. Then unscrewing a single knob on each side door rail. I'll bet it won't take me 5 mins to have the windows off.

To take the rear bikini off, you simply pull the rear of the top off of two 3/8" studs that are screwed into the back part of the roll bar, then unhook the plastic flange from the channel that runs parallel to the sound bar part of the roll bar.

The front bikini is similar. Unhook the flange in the center channel, release the velcro at the front sides of the header bar, and it's off.

The windows will fit fine in my Bestop HOSS window bag, and I'll probably just roll the bikinis up and secure em with a couple of velcro straps. The only loose metal parts you'll have are the vertical side door rails, which are flat, and 23" long.


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I find that it is not that his customer service is bad, it's just that he is a one-man show and you have to be prepared to wait until he catches up on all his orders before he manufactures and ships out your top to you.
In talking with Tim he gets requests for about 15-20 tops per week from individuals. I think on average he can usually sew about 15 per week. That means as he gets into the warmer months when demand increases he falls further and further behind and most people just aren't prepared to wait.
I have his top and am extremely satisfied with it in all respects. I just wouldn't wait too long to order if you are expecting to receive it within 3 weeks ! By the time spring comes around you will likely be looking at 4-6 weeks minimum as he operates out of his home and has little luck in finding skilled commercial seamstresses to assist him with his workload.
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I find that it is not that his customer service is bad, it's just that he is a one-man show and you have to be prepared to wait until he catches up on all his orders before he manufactures and ships out your top to you.
In talking with Tim he gets requests for about 15-20 tops per week from individuals. I think on average he can usually sew about 15 per week. That means as he gets into the warmer months when demand increases he falls further and further behind and most people just aren't prepared to wait.
I have his top and am extremely satisfied with it in all respects. I just wouldn't wait too long to order if you are expecting to receive it within 3 weeks ! By the time spring comes around you will likely be looking at 4-6 weeks minimum as he operates out of his home and has little luck in finding skilled commercial seamstresses to assist him with his workload.
Absolutely. Great explanation.

That was one of the biggest reasons I ordered mine in November, even though I probably won't get to run with it off till AT LEAST April.
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Thanks for the info guys!! Like you I read most of the threads and have decided to go ahead and order next week hoping to have it by late April, if it takes longer so be it. I'm on week ten of my LoD sliders custom order one set received last week but the custom part was missed so they picked them up yesterday and hopefully I will have the right ones sent out soon. Personally I would rather have what I want than have it quick
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This is the side rail, looking to rear of Jeep. One on each side. These support the bikini panels, along with the rollbars. These stay on when you take the whole top, or any part of it, off.
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This is the center channel, which sits in a notch-out in between the two side rails, and on top of the roll bar where your sound bar is. Attached by two large screw knobs from the underside of the roll bar. The plastic flanges sewn into the bikinis attach by hooking over the lip on either side of the channel. Seems like it wouldn't be enough, but when they're seated in there the fabric is tight as a drum. To release either or both bikinis, you just pull the flange (there's a sewn-in loop in each one) out of the channel.
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This is the door rod. One on each side. In the photo they're upside down. The hook @ top slides into a hole in the tub. The knob @ bottom attaches the door rod to the side rail. When you take off the side windows, you'll remove the door rods. Literally, about 10 seconds each.
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This series shows how to attach the two studs to the rear roll bar (to existing, threaded holes). The rear window attaches to the two studs, as does the bikini over the passenger seat row. You just pop the panels on and off.
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This is how the back bikini attaches to the stud (note that rear window is already attached). He's got the fabric folded to show the attachment point. When install the bikini, that slot will be under the fabric...you just pull the panel toward the front of the Jeep till the studs seat in their gaps, then attach the front flange to the center channel shown above.
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Thanks for the info guys!! Like you I read most of the threads and have decided to go ahead and order next week hoping to have it by late April, if it takes longer so be it. I'm on week ten of my LoD sliders custom order one set received last week but the custom part was missed so they picked them up yesterday and hopefully I will have the right ones sent out soon. Personally I would rather have what I want than have it quick


I'm the same way. Hopefully when I hose this bad boy down at the car wash tomorrow it doesn't leak like a g****** sieve.

I'm pretty sure it won't.
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Guess i need to order this top soon. Really liked this top the 1st time i seen it a few months ago. LOOKS GREAT KBWWOLF!
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Guess i need to order this top soon. Really liked this top the 1st time i seen it a few months ago. LOOKS GREAT KBWWOLF!
Thanks. So does your grille...I love stuff that looks different. Looks great in black.
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Thanks. So does your grille...I love stuff that looks different. Looks great in black.
Thanks ! I like my Jeep to look a little different than the next.
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Man, my top decision is going to be a hard one to make. The $1100 for this top is steep, but it looks like a far superior top to the Trektop NX for around $750. Depends on if I think it looks $350 better. I may have to wait until next summer to get one and save up a few more bucks, it sure does look awesome. May just go naked this summer
Besides, I dont have the money for either right now and if I wanted this one for summer, Id have to order right now anyway. My wife would crap herself if I ordered this top after spending $1300 on tires/wheels 3 weeks ago
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Man, my top decision is going to be a hard one to make. The $1100 for this top is steep, but it looks like a far superior top to the Trektop NX for around $750. Depends on if I think it looks $350 better. I may have to wait until next summer to get one and save up a few more bucks, it sure does look awesome. May just go naked this summer
Besides, I dont have the money for either right now and if I wanted this one for summer, Id have to order right now anyway. My wife would crap herself if I ordered this top after spending $1300 on tires/wheels 3 weeks ago
heh, I know that feeling. I really want a fastback top, but I pretty much conceded to myself that it was going to be very very low on the shopping list, because it's purely for looks and costs alot. Then my wife sees this top, and is like "hun, we should get you a new soft top!" too bad the price changed her mind real fast
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Very interesting. A lesser known but good alternative to those who really like the fastback look, but want something other than a Bestop and are maybe scared off by the price of the Wild Boar hardtops. Looks great of course.

Query: You already had a OEM soft top, correct? So why invest $1000 in another, albeit different, soft top?
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Very interesting. A lesser known but good alternative to those who really like the fastback look, but want something other than a Bestop and are maybe scared off by the price of the Wild Boar hardtops. Looks great of course.

Query: You already had a OEM soft top, correct? So why invest $1000 in another, albeit different, soft top?
I like the look of this one better; it's easier (and much quicker) to take on and remove; it's modular...I can take off just the panel over the driver, or just the panel over the passenger, or just the rear or side windows, or any combination thereof.

Though I'd save my OE top in case some knob slits one of my windows in search of pocket change.

Plus, I think in the future I might run the OE top in winter, let it get abused. The winter we've had so far doesn't really count...mildest – by far – that we've had in the last decade.

I really have no need or desire for a hard top.
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Man, my top decision is going to be a hard one to make. The $1100 for this top is steep, but it looks like a far superior top to the Trektop NX for around $750. Depends on if I think it looks $350 better. I may have to wait until next summer to get one and save up a few more bucks, it sure does look awesome. May just go naked this summer
Besides, I dont have the money for either right now and if I wanted this one for summer, Id have to order right now anyway. My wife would crap herself if I ordered this top after spending $1300 on tires/wheels 3 weeks ago
Yeah, Tim raised his prices recently. I bought mine for $750, or $775...something like that.

Naked is good...just don't frighten any grannies.
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I did the leak test at the car wash this morning. Had a minor leak right near the back of the rear passenger side door. Basically a trickle along the door rail. Wiped it away with a towel, tightened up the side mounting rail and nailed it with water again. No leak. Whew.

And that's with water from a high pressure sprayer...I can't see having any problems with rain.

This afternoon I pulled the rear bikini top and all the windows and ran some errands. I left the top on over the driver's seat, since that was the one that was tightest when I first installed it. The rear bikini had already loosened up some. Took all of five minutes to remove the parts I did.

It was only about 31º or so here today, but with the bikini overhead and the Jeep's heater set a little past the middle mark, I rode around in a sweatshirt.

Made me wanna take the doors and the rest of the top off, too. But no. Patience is key.

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My ORH top should be here in a couple of days. Your rig looks great. I think I may need flatties
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My ORH top should be here in a couple of days. Your rig looks great. I think I may need flatties
Lol...Flatties are awesome.

When you get your top, flip through the directions a couple of times (or, like I did, 4 times). Pretty confusing, to say the least. And some of the steps aren't necessarily in the order you might wanna do them. If you PM me a day or two before you do the install, I'll give you my phone # in case you have questions.

Two parts of the install – putting on the brackets for the tailgate bar, and getting the front roof panel into place – are especially frustrating.

Once you get it on, though, you'll love it.
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Lol...Flatties are awesome.

When you get your top, flip through the directions a couple of times (or, like I did, 4 times). Pretty confusing, to say the least. And some of the steps aren't necessarily in the order you might wanna do them. If you PM me a day or two before you do the install, I'll give you my phone # in case you have questions.

Two parts of the install – putting on the brackets for the tailgate bar, and getting the front roof panel into place – are especially frustrating.

Once you get it on, though, you'll love it.
thanks for the offer, I'll do that, It'll be awhile, probably March
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sure looks great!
I'm dying for spring to get here. We got 5" of snow over the weekend, after having almost none all winter long. Mother Nature and Murphy's Law conspiring to screw me over.
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After driving a couple of thousand miles and taking the top off and on a couple of times, I've got a tear on the back corner part of the front top, anyone else have any issues. Guess I'll need to go to a top shop and have it reinforced
Other than that it works bgreat, drove it to Moab, off came the top/doors, I've got it down to about 30 minutes, for the strip
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Ok, I read through this thread back in Feb and thought the screen shots for the directions were pretty lame and assumed that there would be some more details that came with the top. I busted mine open to prep to install for tomorrow hoping to find some more details but Ill be damned if they arent the shittiest directions Ive ever seen. Lets hope the install goes well tomorrow, we are supposed to get some thunderstorms in the afternoon
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I must have ordered at the perfect time. Roughly 4 1/2 weeks from order to delivery. I called once to check up and heard back next day. It was in the post 2 days later. A week to ship to ontario. Instructions were pretty awful but its not overly complex. It did take 6 hours to get the top two pieces on. Very tight even on a really hot day. My situation was complicated working over a dirty dog netting so lots of messing around because of that. Waited a week before putting on the sides and back. Again ultra tight. Almost standing on the roof to get it back on. Wish the rear and sides were removable. Without taking the top section off though as it was a hell of a job. I can only hope it will give in time. One weird side effect . Louder with sides and back on than without. Getting a loud drumming vibration. Again id guess that will subside when the canvas gives. Overall its awesome. Powerwashed this afternoon and not a drip
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