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Old 10-24-2011, 08:03 PM   #1
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Pay Off or Modify First?

Curious to know how many of you went ahead and bought all of your mods before actually paying the vehicle off?

The risk of course is that something unexpected happens, like losing job, etc., and you have to sell your vehicle, and all of the mods turn into a waste of money for someone else to enjoy. If its paid off, then you know your mods will always be 'yours' so to speak.

The flip side is why wait 4-5 years for it to be paid off to really enjoy it to the fullest by customizing it the way that you would like. Who knows what major catastrophe is just around the corner. Live life to the fullest and forget the loan!

If you paid cash for your JK, then I suppose you have the best of both worlds.

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Old 10-24-2011, 08:07 PM   #2
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Please pay it off first !

Then once the Jeep is 4-5 years old and you are bored with it, you create a completely new jeep with all your mods.

The only exception to the rule would be upgrades when items like tires need to be replaced.

Also I think the resale market is probably broader for non-modded jeeps.

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That's a great question!!!!!

I have a funny feeling that i will modify even though i'm saying pay off.
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Both, if you can afford to save a bit towards mods for the jeep each month. Buy items that you don't have to re-upgrade down the line. For example. armor, tow hooks, winch etc. Get that stuff out of the way, then when you can save towards the larger items.
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:11 PM   #6
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Pay off! I won't be modding ours until its payed for. I did a 60 mo loan with 20% down, and will most likely pay of off after a year or two. I don't like having a loan, but gotta build credit for a house.
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I should add that I wouldnt modify anything that I cant put back to stock (also dont get rid of the stock stuff) untill its paid off. There are tons of great bolt on mods that are easily reversed IF you have an issue that requires you sell the vehicle.
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start modifying now,,, its a never ending project,, that will never ever be done,, so start now while your still young and you will have years to enjoy your never ending mod's
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:34 PM   #9
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personally I believe in the "pay it off first" approach....

I've done it the other way too many times before and it didn't work as good as I had expected.
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Curious to know how many of you went ahead and bought all of your mods before actually paying the vehicle off?
With the exception of those who paid in cash or would never mod anyway, almost everybody started mods before paying the jeep off. However, I've never heard of anybody buying "all" of their mods before the loan is done--how do you know you're done??

In any event, nobody buys a vehicle believing they'll "get their money back." It's not an investment. So a few hundred or even a thousand or two on mods really only means you'll lose a little more on an emergency resale. Mods won't suddenly turn something that was an economically sound investment into a bad choice--they just make an economically bad choice slightly worse.

The options are endless and that's a great part of the fun. There are many, many mods that can be done relatively cheaply and are readily reversible.

Personally, my only rule is that I keep the mods reasonably priced during the term of the loan. Nothing crazy--superchargers, hemi swaps, long arm suspension kits, rock jock axles, etc. can wait.
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Pay off! I won't be modding ours until its payed for. I did a 60 mo loan with 20% down, and will most likely pay of off after a year or two. I don't like having a loan, but gotta build credit for a house.
Don't pay it off early if you are trying to build credit.
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I've put a little money into my jeep, someday it will be an amazing crawler. That's after it's paid off and I can afford to own another car as a dd
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Mine is paid off. I still approach mods in a conservative way. One thing that has a lot to do with your approach is family finances. Since both my wife and I work in salaried jobs (fixed income), we have to plan for our purchases especially the big ones. Lifting the jeep, for example, is not inexpensive when you look at it from the point of income sources. That has to be planned for. Adding a winch on an OEM bumper mounted winch plate which is not as expensive but still a chunk of change can be slipped in when finances allow but too many of those types of purchases may put off that larger purchase.

When it comes to vehicles, I have to admit, I have a history of being an appliance operator. My whole driving experience has been in vehicles that I purchase new, drive until it starts costing too much money on maintenance (usually 7 to 10 years) and then trade it in for a new one that is practically maintenance free except for PMs. So having a jeep has been a new experience. Having two jeeps is really taxing me and I sometimes find myself torn about what to do next. The 92 is requiring a lot of attention just to make it a solid running vehicle. So, this has complicated upgrades to the 2008. My son will begin driving the 92 in a little over a month and I drive the 92 to make sure it gets attention in areas needed. Got stuck in the Walmart parking lot last weekend and a guy from Home Depot jumped it and we got it started. Purchased the battery wiring harness (stock) and my wallet went ouch on the $110.00 price tag. Of course I had to get 20 foot jumper cables $40.00 and a battery booster $100.00 and of course I started with a new battery $75.00. I got the extended length jumper cables because the last time I did a recovery deep in the woods was on a jeep with a dead battery. My jumper cables were not long enough to reach so I had to use my tow strap to pull him out of the hole that he was in to get him situated so that the jumper cable would reach from his battery to mine. See what I mean? You got to think ahead to future recoveries....and equip yourself properly.

I think I got it bad.

Gulp.

What to do next......
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:46 PM   #14
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Don't pay it off early if you are trying to build credit.
I've never cared about credit or credit scores. I always pay off loans early. It saves money. That being said, I still had no problems getting my first home loan this summer. In fact I have a credit score that puts me above 90% of the US. So I don't buy into that statement. Not trying to argue, just wanted to share that in my experience after having a loan for a year and making every payment on time its safe to pay it off.

My best advice is to pay it off and never mod it if you want to be rich. (I don't even follow it)

But more importantly, never buy mods on credit. Always pay cash for mods. Reason being is if you ever total the Jeep or have to sell it in an emergency you will still be paying for mods... not fun.
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I've never cared about credit or credit scores. I always pay off loans early. It saves money. That being said, I still had no problems getting my first home loan this summer. In fact I have a credit score that puts me above 90% of the US. So I don't buy into that statement. Not trying to argue, just wanted to share that in my experience after having a loan for a year and making every payment on time its safe to pay it off.

My best advice is to pay it off and never mod it if you want to be rich. (I don't even follow it)

But more importantly, never buy mods on credit. Always pay cash for mods. Reason being is if you ever total the Jeep or have to sell it in an emergency you will still be paying for mods... not fun.
If you have a history yes. He said he was trying to build credit. In order to build credit you must have a history of paying bills on time. For someone with little or no credit history, it is better to continue to pay the loan on time in order to build credit.
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If you have a history yes. He said he was trying to build credit. In order to build credit you must have a history of paying bills on time. For someone with little or no credit history, it is better to continue to pay the loan on time in order to build credit.
I'm on my second loan, paid my first one of early and my bank manager warned me to not pay this one off early as it will hurt my credit to much
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I agree with daggo on this one. Us old farts who have been paying on a mortgage for most of our lives and have had to buy just about every vehicle on credit and have successfully paid off every loan and short term credit usually don't have to worry about our credit too much....just continue to be responsible with loans and credit. But a young person building credit needs to pay attention to things like early pay-off and what it will do to your credit score.
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I say mod away!! By feb I will have hade my jeep a year and I will still have about 20k left on the loan. But also I will have about 20k worth of mods in it. You only live once.
Yes I know everyone cant do this but hey I was a family man for 10 years and now by someone elses choice Im single so Im going to go ahead and build my jeep up the way I want it.
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We're still paying off our house, but that hasn't stopped us from improving it over the years.
I'll be paying off my Jeep while I modify it. I don't have any intentions of selling it, in fact it is my plan to be buried in the thing.
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We're still paying off our house, but that hasn't stopped us from improving it over the years.
I'll be paying off my Jeep while I modify it. I don't have any intentions of selling it, in fact it is my plan to be buried in the thing.
"Just push it down a shallow ramp into the grave" I told em. "It'll bump at the end, but it's a Jeep. It'll take it!"
I was thinking the same thing as well. I also suppose it depends on what mods you are looking at. I have roughly $5K worth that I would like to do that would satisfy me for quite some time. That's roughly 16% of the total loan, or less than one year worth of payments.

Is that pay off delay worth 5 years of fun, excitement, and driving your own personalized off road vehicle? I'm thinking hell yeah!

I also keep vehicles for the long haul. I had my last Jeep Liberty for 10 years and sold it for this Wrangler. My son can take the Wrangler when he turns 16-17, in about 10 years. Wish I had a 4-door Wrangler in high school!
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I've been considering the same issue, especially in relation to the 2012 Warranty...my approach will be smaller, DIY mods until original components are really "broken in", and bigger stuff once I've established trust with the warranty decision-maker at my dealership.Then probably pay loan off entirely at the 30-36 month point...
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I agree with daggo on this one. Us old farts who have been paying on a mortgage for most of our lives and have had to buy just about every vehicle on credit and have successfully paid off every loan and short term credit usually don't have to worry about our credit too much....just continue to be responsible with loans and credit. But a young person building credit needs to pay attention to things like early pay-off and what it will do to your credit score.
Very interesting. I've only got around 5 years of history with credit cards and have been living on my own for about 3. I'm usually told the only thing holding me back is my lack of history. I may run it for a few years then as apposed to just one. I just hate shelling out a payment every month.
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I would just make the payment a few dollars more so that you can pay it off a year or two early which shouldnt be too bad. Also pay cash for your mods you will get a better deal and will not be more in debt with you jeep. Also if you are upside down on your loan you should probably wait to modify until you have some equity in the vehicle.
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Well I'm older than most of you but at this point in my life I pay cash for vehicles. When I had to borrow money for cars I always paid them off before spending extra on them, credit score be damned, I'm not paying hard earned money for a credit score. You only live once, live debt free!
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re: "You only live once, live debt free!"

the improvement in my own life once this occurred was simply AMAZING!!!

I recommend it heartily. Talk about a 'lift'.....
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I had mods for our Jeep before we even had a Jeep.

Every loan I have ever had I have paid off early. It hasn't hurt me at all. I would rather not have the debt than have an extra 5 points on my credit score. Until we bought the Jeep the only thing we owed money on was the house and I don't plan to owe on the Jeep for very long.
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I should add that I wouldnt modify anything that I cant put back to stock (also dont get rid of the stock stuff) untill its paid off. There are tons of great bolt on mods that are easily reversed IF you have an issue that requires you sell the vehicle.
Absolutely agree. Don't toss that OEM bumper or wheels, etc.
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Absolutely agree. Don't toss that OEM bumper or wheels, etc.
I am also in agreement with that in most cases. The only time I wouldn't agree is if you realistically are going to keep a vehicle forever. I was planning to sell our stock wheels, tires and bumpers until last week. Now I'm thinking I will hang on to them to put them back on when we trade the Jeep. They are basically worthless to sell and if we can put them on when we trade our current wheels will hopefully fit the new Jeep when we get it. If not, they will certainly bring more in the market than the stockers will. Whatever happens, the stock stuff isn't costing me anythign to hold onto and it gives me some options when trade in time rolls around.
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I was gonna try to sell the wheels and Rubicon mud tires until I checked Craig's List. OMG, there's tons of them for sale. You are correct...they are worthless.

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