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Old 02-21-2013, 04:37 PM   #1
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Pics of your Engo winch install

I'm about to put the Engo e10000 winch on my bumper but the solenoid seems to butt up against the front grill. Rather than forcing the issue, I'd love to see some pics of your installs to see if there's a better way to get this on the Jeep.

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Old 02-21-2013, 05:49 PM   #2
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I love winch solenoids mounted under the hood. It's a clean install IMO. Have you thought of going that route? Or is that what you're asking for?

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I have an E12000 and had the same problem and I relocated mine inside., here is a thread on the subject: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/eng...on-177291.html
I am in the process of something permanent this weekend but this may give you some ideas.
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I love winch solenoids mounted under the hood. It's a clean install IMO. Have you thought of going that route? Or is that what you're asking for?
That *may* be what I'm asking for. Not 100% sure what I'm asking for yet.
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I did this, i thought the winch hidden in the stock bumper was super cool. We put the solenoid bolted to the harbor freight winch plate. It looked clean like stock but a little meaner.

we cut the bumper so the solinoid would sit in it.

you can see a hundred pictures of it here - www.facebook.com/jeeplab and check the albums.

ill look for some good ones to post here later.
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I made mine fit, it didn't seem to press against the grill that much to me. Though in the future I'll probably be relocating the solenoid.
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I guess I need to find some space under the hood. I already got an aftermarket bumper so the placement is locked in on there.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:46 AM   #8
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Here is what I did with mine since it was pushing my grill in with my Rugged Ridge Bumper.

Still have some zip tie'ing and to do but..



Found some kids rubber flip flops at walmart so I cut them up and put them between the metal plate and the battery. Chapest part of the whole thing. 1.48 on clearance.



I don't care who you are, the yellow cable is tits. And yeah, I realized I forgot to put the little screw cap end thing on the wire running to the battery.




I'll un hook it and re do it this weekend when I run my in cab 12 volt guy winch controls.



My full write up here

Winch Stuff.....
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Subscribed. Just clicked "submit" on an order for an Engo E9000 to go in my Mopar Offroad front bumper, and I was thinking about possibliy moving the solenoid under the hood depending on the fit/look.
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Thanks for all of your input guys. I ended up getting this installed last week and actually got a chance to use it over the past weekend.

What I ended up doing was buying a thin strip of aluminum and "fabricated" a spacer to move just the solenoid about 2 inches forward, leaving everything else in place. This allowed me to keep it in front of the bumper without having the wires push up against the grille.







Also, in regards to jkristie's post above mine, what sized Engo did you get? I got the E10000S and I'm pretty sure the yellow wire is supposed to attach to the back. Your picture has it reversed - and it could be that way for a different size, I'm not sure... but my wire could reach just fine.



Also, I'm 99.9% sure you are supposed to push the black sleeve on the line all the way to the beginning of the spool so that it could protect the line in the first wrap from the warm/hot drum while winching. It's not supposed to show once the line is fully spooled.

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Oh, and here is a pic of the bracket I made up before I cleaned it up and painted it. 16 gauge steel plate. Then I drilled the 4 holes in it to secure the box. Finally put rubber between it and the battery.

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Also, in regards to jkristie's post above mine, what sized Engo did you get? I got the E10000S and I'm pretty sure the yellow wire is supposed to attach to the back......
I have the 9000 and I questioned that as well after looking at some pics. The terminal is coded yellow vs black. I don't know if they reversed them on mine, or what's up with them. I went through the directions again, again and again, and mine says to put it there. I have used and had no issues, so I am sticking with it.

I'ts no the best picture, but you can see the yellow ring at the bottom and the black on the other.

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It's weird that it's not consistent... but as long as it works, that's all that matters.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:35 AM   #14
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I am actually really not happy about the winch at all. I think it's made like crap. I should have just bucked up the extra coin and went with a warn.
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I am actually really not happy about the winch at all. I think it's made like crap. I should have just bucked up the extra coin and went with a warn.
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you make it down to Pensacola, and we can talk. Shipping it would be $$$$
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not that far make me a good enough deal i ll drive down for it.
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I am actually really not happy about the winch at all. I think it's made like crap. I should have just bucked up the extra coin and went with a warn.
What don't you like about it? I was thinking about an Engo 9000.
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What don't you like about it? I was thinking about an Engo 9000.
Ditto. I'm wondering the same. I've leaning towards an Engo 10000S unit.
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i pulled cable on kappas 1000s a couple times this weekend. i like it better than my smitty. his spools out a 1000 times easier.
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What don't you like about it? I was thinking about an Engo 9000.
I think the quality is lacking. They is no way the solenoid box is not getting water into it. There is no rubber gasket, the crap screws that hold the top of it on, the plastic holes that those screws go into are a joke. I had it mounted on the bumper for maybe a month and the nuts and bolts on the bottom of the solenoid are rusted. I replaced them. I make a horrible grinding noise, which I know I just have to get in it an maybe grease the gears or check out the brake, but I want to do that anyway to take out the paper gasket they use and put some silicone in.

It's just something you shouldn't have to do on a 1 month old winch. I had a Superwinch LP8500 on my old jeep and never had an issue. As a matter of fact, the guy who has it now, has never had a problem. I got the Superwinch for like 350 with free shipping. This one was like 50 more. I mean, I know it's a cheap winch, but damn.

I can say this, after taking that soleniod box apart and really checking it out, I would never leave it exposed to the elements, let alone wheel around water with it.
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And this is the new fancy fast and furious carbon fiber look a like model, so the older ones may be better. I also know that they were way backordered when I placed my order, so maybe they rushed them out and used cheap hardware. I don't know. Maybe it's just mine.
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Mine is still pretty new but I feel comfortable wheeling it near water. I also got a cover for mine but that's mainly to protect the line, not the solenoid.

When I took mine apart, there was a tiny strip of rubber that went around the edge. Not sure if that's the gasket you're talking about but I feel like it does do something. If you seal it tight after taking it apart and don't submerge the solenoid in water for hours at a time, I think it should be okay.

I can't speak towards the rust issue yet, but the bolts and nuts are stainless steel so they should be okay for a long time.
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I have had my E10000S one the front of my jeep for about a year now. Used it a number of times. The only rust on it is the clutch lever. Just recently put a cover on it to protect the synthetic line so it's been exposed to the elements with no issues. Good catch though, I will be moving the black sheath to the first wrap on the drum next time I unspool it.
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Mine is still pretty new but I feel comfortable wheeling it near water. I also got a cover for mine but that's mainly to protect the line, not the solenoid.

When I took mine apart, there was a tiny strip of rubber that went around the edge. Not sure if that's the gasket you're talking about but I feel like it does do something. If you seal it tight after taking it apart and don't submerge the solenoid in water for hours at a time, I think it should be okay.

I can't speak towards the rust issue yet, but the bolts and nuts are stainless steel so they should be okay for a long time.
I read through a huge ass thread and rust came up.

Huge Sale on Engo Winches - Now With Synthetic Line! - Page 47

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Question, my engage/disengage nob is starting to rust. Is this normal. Ive only had the winch for about 4 months
Up north, unfortunately yes and this is the case with pretty much every winch. My recommendation on winches is as follows.

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On every winch, prior to installing, coat the terminals that go from the control box to the winch motor with battery anti-corrosion spray. This is the red stuff that you put on your battery terminals under the hood. Occasionally spray penetrating oil on any moving parts such as the clutch disconnect lever. This keeps the parts moving freely as well as preventing corrosion. If you are running steel cable, it is also a very good idea to occasionally use some penetrating oil on the line as well. Keeping your winch clean and occasional wipe downs with penetrating oil will keep them looking good for years to come. If you're running a winch cover, it is very important to do this as well. A cover protects the winch from the elements to a point, but the same properties that keep most the crud out also has a tendency to keep the crud that makes it past it trapped inside. Same concept on shock boots and why I do everything I can to keep people from buying shock boots... except a winch cover is easy to remove for cleaning whereas a shock boot is not.
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I can keep a look out for this. But I'm in Atlanta, and we hardly use salt here so I should be okay.
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First I want to say Kuddos to Kappaknight on his mod extending the solenoid box out. I did the same to my jeep and it works great. I would like to know for the long run of battery wire's for those that put the solenoid box on the battery, did you reuse the long black and red wire that came with the winch and just bought the yellow wire (I'm just talking the long run of wires, not the short ones) or did you replace the black wire also. What size wiring did you use or recommend for this (max 7' wire 420 amps). Thanks
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I reused two of the cables. Long Red and one of the black cables that was longer to go to the postive terminal on the battery. I bought about 6 foot each of black and yellow in 4 guage at West Marine. They sell it by the foot and bought some ends and heat shrink for protection.
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Anyone else do something like this? I guess pre-2013, they mounted the battery sideways which allowed the box to fit snug right in there. Seeing what others have done before going this route.


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Oh, and here is a pic of the bracket I made up before I cleaned it up and painted it. 16 gauge steel plate. Then I drilled the 4 holes in it to secure the box. Finally put rubber between it and the battery.


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