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Old 07-05-2009, 04:59 AM   #1
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Please help me on what i should pay

If im buying an Unlimited X C Package 4x4 and the base price is $24,240 but after options the MSRP is $25,685 what should I be paying or be able to talk them down on?

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Old 07-05-2009, 06:55 AM   #2
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I'd expect about 10% plus any additional incentives off sticker. Lot's of variables though...

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Old 07-05-2009, 09:02 AM   #3
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Deals have not been what they were on the Wrangler since the summer began. Unless it's old inventory, you should be able to get what Whitebomber said. If it's been on their lot for a long time, then you should be able to get 15~20%. Do you know the build date?
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I got online and searched every dealer inventory for the model I wanted. I called them up and told them exactly what I was doing, asked how much. Told them if they'd give me the best price I'd be in that evening to buy. I did just that. Didn't get a steal but did get a very good price from a larger dealer. Make sure you tell them you want a final price that includes taxes and all the piddly stuff they like to add on.

My salesperson went to his boss, told him I was shopping the net and managed to get back to me quickly. If you are trading, do your trade in home work seperately.
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Agreed, I guess the deals aren't as great as they once were on some of these models.
I got my 4-door Rubi ($37+ sticker) for $27k but that was right before the "bankruptcy" proceedings took place and I believe they were hungry & making great deals. I walked in with sales quotes and sticker prices from real dealerships on real Jeeps. (not just, I want to pay this or that) --- and told them.....

If you can match this price on this exact Jeep, I will buy it locally from you, today.
If you cannot, then I will just have it shipped. It didn't hurt that was trading in a Boxster S and essentially the deal was good for them (gave them a good deal on the car that I had taken EXTREMELY good care of) --- but I came out with basically nothing to pay on the Jeep, so I was happy as well.

All in all, I have placed < 2000 miles on my Rubi in the last 4 months, as I drive a 160k Tahoe on my commute and use my C350 AMG for other driving. I only drive my Rubi when the weather is perfect as the tops are always off and the Raingler nets look awesome.

YMMV, but find a dealer you like and be fair, but direct and honest about what you can afford & willing to pay. If the deal is not right, just walk away.

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Old 07-05-2009, 12:53 PM   #6
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If you want to get the best deal, and know exactly what you paid, you need to start at zero and work up. This web site can help: New Cars - Edmunds.com
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Deals have not been what they were on the Wrangler since the summer began. Unless it's old inventory, you should be able to get what Whitebomber said. If it's been on their lot for a long time, then you should be able to get 15~20%. Do you know the build date?
No I do not, how would I figure that out?

Would it maybe just be better to wait a few months tell the end of the year or do you think
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Would it maybe just be better to wait a few months tell the end of the year or do you think I have around the same chance as now?
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Would it maybe just be better to wait a few months tell the end of the year or do you think I have around the same chance as now?
I'd test the water now and see what you can come up with. I'm sure sales are slow, so it might be a good time. Plus if you live anywhere where's it's snowy, salty and dirty in the winter, I'd sure rather have some great weather to play when it's new.
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Ask the dealer how long it was on the lot. Or if you are on the lot, take a look at the sticker on the driver side door... it has a build date on it. If it's been on their lot for a few months, they want to roll it (they are paying interest on any vehicle outside of 30 days).
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Awesome, thank you guys for the help!
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Based on this thread, I'm feeling like I got robbed. I ordered to spec on May 29th a black 2 door sahara with dual top and navi/mygig. MSRP approx 30k (Actually I think it was like $29900). I am paying $27,700 BEFORE a $1,000 rebate...so $26,700 after the rebate (invoice is 27,400 I believe). They are giving me 14k for my trade...they only wanted to give 13k originally (05 TL).

I am off your suggested %s or is that only if it is sitting on the lot???

Someone make me feel better
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:03 AM   #13
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That doesn't seem like a bad deal. You missed the EPP discounts, which helped bring down the price. Also it's always easier to work a deal when the vehicle is sitting right outside on the lot. Plus anytime you add a trade, it's another totally arbitrary figure. You may be getting top $$ for the trade.

I can also say that most every deal I've ever made I've felt good about but have always kinda wondered "what if". It's normal...

Another disadvantage of ordering, is you have too much time to second guess. Once you get behind the wheel of your new Jeep, you won't be looking back. Except maybe to enjoy all the attention you are getting.
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This isn't rocket science. You can't look at a % off as any kind of guideline. If you want to know if you got a good deal or not, the only way is to compare it against what the dealer paid. Trade ins are a completely seperate negotiation and are never as good a deal as selling the car yourself. There are several web sitess that will let you price a vehicle from the bottom up. Try www.edmonds.com and compare it against what you paid and you will know if you got a good deal or not. In any event you own it now so stop worrying about it and just enjoy it. The dealer will always make money. They are not in the business of giving cars away.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:26 AM   #15
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Fleish... you got a decent deal. Our Jeep's are similarly equipped (mine stickered for just over $30k). I bought for $25,625. However, it appears you made up for it in the trade-in price.
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Fleish... you got a decent deal. Our Jeep's are similarly equipped (mine stickered for just over $30k). I bought for $25,625. However, it appears you made up for it in the trade-in price.
Thanks,bro. Not too shabby I suppose. Hey, you aren't my dealer disguised as a forum member, are you??
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This isn't rocket science. You can't look at a % off as any kind of guideline. If you want to know if you got a good deal or not, the only way is to compare it against what the dealer paid. Trade ins are a completely seperate negotiation and are never as good a deal as selling the car yourself. There are several web sitess that will let you price a vehicle from the bottom up. Try www.edmonds.com and compare it against what you paid and you will know if you got a good deal or not. In any event you own it now so stop worrying about it and just enjoy it. The dealer will always make money. They are not in the business of giving cars away.
I'm not disagreeing with anything you have said here. I agree. I will say, if the dealer made the deal, they screwed you somehow.

They do have to make their money. Typically, they should accomplish this more on used car sales (from tradeins where they bone you) and service (where they bone you).
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Shane, I agree start with going to edmunds.com use the they will let you put in the options you want. When finished it will tell you the MSRP, the price the dealer usually pay for it and what other people in your area generally paid for that type of vehicle. You can also use their loan calculator to figure out how much payments and stuff would generally be. I did this and took the print outs to a few dealerships b4 I got a good deal. They always like to play games also like how much can you afford a month and then try to raise the price on you. Stick to your guns and show them you did your homework. I told one salesman off in front of 10 customers that he was trying to rip me off and I had figures to back it up. He called back the next day begging to give them another try, but I told him he blew it and would never buy from that dealership.
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I aggree with doing your homework to get the best deal, but remember the salespeople are there do to thier job. They are suppose to try to get you to pay as much as you can for a vehicle. When they try to do thier job dont start yelling at them. just explain your case and if they cant work with you leave. They will call you back either way if they have your info.

Would you want someone to yell at you and tell you off for you doing your job?
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Good advice. If you want to be treated professionally, then act professionally yourself. When my wife was shopping for a new vehicle, we visited a Nissan dealer to look at an Exterra. We were very close to making the purchase. While we were waiting for them to look at her Explorer, there was a big anouncement over the PA congratulating one of the salesman for making the first sale of the day. They went on and on and rang a gong and started playing some stupid song. I thought it was 1970 or something. I couldn't give a rat's ass about their sale since I was there and it was about what I wanted as a customer. We left and went to the Jeep dealership and she bought a Liberty that day. 2 months later we went back to the same salesperson and bought my JK.
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Good advice. If you want to be treated professionally, then act professionally yourself. When my wife was shopping for a new vehicle, we visited a Nissan dealer to look at an Exterra. We were very close to making the purchase. While we were waiting for them to look at her Explorer, there was a big anouncement over the PA congratulating one of the salesman for making the first sale of the day. They went on and on and rang a gong and started playing some stupid song. I thought it was 1970 or something. I couldn't give a rat's ass about their sale since I was there and it was about what I wanted as a customer. We left and went to the Jeep dealership and she bought a Liberty that day. 2 months later we went back to the same salesperson and bought my JK.
Wow, that is a crazy, but hilarious story...... What a wild place!
In the big picture though, you weren't sipping Cognac at an Italian sports car dealership....It was just a Nissan, so I might have just laughed it off, but perhaps that was just me. When I bought my Porsche at the dealership, they were having a Mardi Gras party (I am from New Orleans) --- but I didn't have a problem with that.....It actually made the car buying experience more enjoyable, less tense and made me really want to grab the keys and go drive my new car.
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Interesting reading here for sure. I'm shopping for a Wrangler for first time since having one in the 80's. The local dealer (Fort Smith, AR) seems to be moving them pretty fast. They didn't come off sticker and were very low on trade-in on my truck. This wasn't a finance deal either I was offering cash money. So I'll just keep looking. I guess I don't blame them since they seem to be selling all they can get but I'm just not gonna pay full price.
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Agreed, I guess the deals aren't as great as they once were on some of these models.
I got my 4-door Rubi ($37+ sticker) for $27k but that was right before the "bankruptcy" proceedings took place and I believe they were hungry & making great deals. I walked in with sales quotes and sticker prices from real dealerships on real Jeeps. (not just, I want to pay this or that) --- and told them.....

If you can match this price on this exact Jeep, I will buy it locally from you, today.
If you cannot, then I will just have it shipped. It didn't hurt that was trading in a Boxster S and essentially the deal was good for them (gave them a good deal on the car that I had taken EXTREMELY good care of) --- but I came out with basically nothing to pay on the Jeep, so I was happy as well.

All in all, I have placed < 2000 miles on my Rubi in the last 4 months, as I drive a 160k Tahoe on my commute and use my C350 AMG for other driving. I only drive my Rubi when the weather is perfect as the tops are always off and the Raingler nets look awesome.

YMMV, but find a dealer you like and be fair, but direct and honest about what you can afford & willing to pay. If the deal is not right, just walk away.

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What is a C350 AMG?
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What is a C350 AMG?
its a Mercedes-Benz C350 with the AMG "package" wheels, suspension, logos, that kind of stuff. the C63 AMG is a bad ass machine, mean v8, i wish i could have one but then again for $56000 you could get some other really sweet cars too.
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its a Mercedes-Benz C350 with the AMG "package" wheels, suspension, logos, that kind of stuff. the C63 AMG is a bad ass machine, mean v8, i wish i could have one but then again for $56000 you could get some other really sweet cars too.
I know what an AMG is....and there is no C350 AMG. Guys who want to be 'cool' stick the damn badges on as posers and yes the C63 is a real bad as machine but the tag is a little high. The 56K is where is starts and then add for NAV Bi-Xenons and performance package and its another 10K. 66K is pricey for a C. I have a C32.
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I know what an AMG is....and there is no C350 AMG. Guys who want to be 'cool' stick the damn badges on as posers and yes the C63 is a real bad as machine but the tag is a little high. The 56K is where is starts and then add for NAV Bi-Xenons and performance package and its another 10K. 66K is pricey for a C. I have a C32.
There is when you send it off for a Lorinser upgrade. Yeah, I am a poser.
It basically turns it into a "L35GS" --- but since most people would say "that doesn't exist", I just say C350 AMG.
It seems to appease the masses.
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^^ Call it a Lorisner or Braubus but please not a C350 AMG. Lorisner and Braubus are independent tuners of MB cars. When I had a Firebird in H.S. I didn't put TA stickers all over it - I drove it for what it was! Let's talk JEEP!
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^^ Call it a Lorisner or Braubus but please not a C350 AMG. Lorisner and Braubus are independent tuners of MB cars. When I had a Firebird in H.S. I didn't put TA stickers all over it - I drove it for what it was! Let's talk JEEP!
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