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Old 07-16-2011, 11:56 AM   #1
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Poison Spyder brawler lite Vs Rugged Ridge XHD

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I know there are lots of threads on the specifications of both...that is not what I am looking for. I am about to order a new bumper next week and it is between these two bumpers. I really like the look of both although they are very different. I know the the XHD is chinese made and the Poison Spyder is American made...and all that jazz. I think the Poison Spyder Brawler lite is a work of art but I like the customizable ability of the XHD. The Poison Spyder is almost twice the amount of the XHD... so I really want to hear from fellow jeepers that own one of these units to either sing their praise or air their grievances about them.

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Old 11-08-2011, 02:47 AM   #2
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What did you decide?

I'm in the same boat as you now but considering the aluminum XHD. The PS Brawler Lite will probably be my choice.

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Put me on the list....got attacked by a deer @60 MPH! Decision....repar back to original OR !!!!!!!!!???????. note.. Daily driver, very, very light off road.
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really impressed with my LOD mid, @$850 PC'd, skid, and shipped, couple of hours to install, not sure of the weight (not bad) but it only dropped the front end 1/4"
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PSC has a long standing in the offroad comunity of being a great product that stands up well to a beating. Larry (owner of PSC) shown that last year with his KOH JK. We stand behind their products. So, our choice lies with them of the two. They are also coming out with a light weight aluminum version of their products!

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Old 11-08-2011, 04:17 PM   #6
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really impressed with my LOD mid, @$850 PC'd, skid, and shipped, couple of hours to install, not sure of the weight (not bad) but it only dropped the front end 1/4"
i really like this bumper. i have been on the fence about what to purchase. where did you purchase this from and how long did you have to wait?
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Old 11-08-2011, 05:55 PM   #7
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Hey all

I know there are lots of threads on the specifications of both...that is not what I am looking for. I am about to order a new bumper next week and it is between these two bumpers. I really like the look of both although they are very different. I know the the XHD is chinese made and the Poison Spyder is American made...and all that jazz. I think the Poison Spyder Brawler lite is a work of art but I like the customizable ability of the XHD. The Poison Spyder is almost twice the amount of the XHD... so I really want to hear from fellow jeepers that own one of these units to either sing their praise or air their grievances about them.

Please Please Help!
Let's address the question:

I don't own either, but if I had to choose I'd pick the PS. When I was looking at bumpers one of my main concerns, since I live in Wisconsin and they use salt on the roads here all winter, was buying one that wouldn't get eaten up by the elements.

The RR XHD is a very popular bumper because of its modular nature. You can add parts to it as you go. I read a lot of threads (on many forums) where people praised the bumper; most of these were folks who'd just bought it and / or installed it.

Everything new looks awesome, doesn't it?

I also found a lot of threads where RR owners mentioned rusting, especially in the areas where components bolted together – the bull bar, end caps, etc. Again, gotta take those with a grain of salt as well, 'cause happy consumers don't complain.

Personally, with the RR I also had concerns about how the bumper would hold up if took a direct hit on one of the end caps, which are bolted on. Only read a couple of "bent my new bumper" threads, though, so maybe my worries were unfounded.

In the end, I decided to buy a one-piece bumper system for my Jeep. Fewer parts (in most instances) means less chance of failure.

As for aesthetics, I personally like the look of the RR over the PS. But that's just me.

In the end, I'd say make a list and write down your personal pros / cons for each bumper. I'll bet the winner becomes apparent pretty quickly.
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I have the RR XHD. I really like it especially because I can change it up at any time. I have had it through one complete winter and we had more snow and salted roads last year then in the last few years. Not to mention the mud pits and river crossings this summer. Haven't had any rust issues at all and even if I do anytime soon, its nothing a little rustoleum can't take care of.

That said, at least there is a choice in the XHD line now. If I had the choice of the new aluminum XHD, I probably have got it. Not because of the rust but the weight.
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Isn't the PSC only like 10 lbs heavier than the XHD aluminum without flares?
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you bring up some good points...I am going on 1 year with my RR XHD (I have front a rear).

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I also found a lot of threads where RR owners mentioned rusting, especially in the areas where components bolted together – the bull bar, end caps, etc. Again, gotta take those with a grain of salt as well, 'cause happy consumers don't complain.

Personally, with the RR I also had concerns about how the bumper would hold up if took a direct hit on one of the end caps, which are bolted on. Only read a couple of "bent my new bumper" threads, though, so maybe my worries were unfounded. .
I went through last winter with these on my JKU and I personally didn't get any rust. The powder coat is very thick, so I will give them a + for that. But, I did take a rock to the front of the bumper, and it chipped the powder coat, and the rust showed up alarmingly fast. I was able to touched it up with some flat black Rustoleum Reformer, and its good as new. You do need to keep an eye on the spots where the powder coat can chip or seperate, especially where the bolts meet the bumper.

To you second point:
I did opt to take off the modular end caps, and go with the stubby when I lifted and added tires a few months ago. I snapped two of the three bolts without a lot of torque, and you could tell they were not welded on very well (It looked like the metal was mixed with sand to save money!) I also sent 3 e-mails directly to Rugged Ridge about replacement end caps over a few week period and did not receive 1 reply! - for customer service in my book. I ended up having to buy a new set of stubby end caps from a vendor I found on this forum.

Bottom line:
I personally love the look and think the XHD goes with the lines of the JK best out of all of the aftermarket bumpers (my opinion) that I was looking at for my needs (non winch mount, factory fog light cut outs). They are solid and, yes they are modular...but they are not built to be messed aorund with often.

I can't speak much on Poison Spyder, other than I think they have some great products, and I wish I had the extra cash to pony up for them. Hope this helps!
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:53 AM   #11
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you bring up some good points...I am going on 1 year with my RR XHD (I have front a rear).
I went through last winter with these on my JKU and I personally didn't get any rust. The powder coat is very thick, so I will give them a + for that. But, I did take a rock to the front of the bumper, and it chipped the powder coat, and the rust showed up alarmingly fast. I was able to touched it up with some flat black Rustoleum Reformer, and its good as new. You do need to keep an eye on the spots where the powder coat can chip or seperate, especially where the bolts meet the bumper.
To you second point:
I did opt to take off the modular end caps, and go with the stubby when I lifted and added tires a few months ago. I snapped two of the three bolts without a lot of torque, and you could tell they were not welded on very well (It looked like the metal was mixed with sand to save money!) I also sent 3 e-mails directly to Rugged Ridge about replacement end caps over a few week period and did not receive 1 reply! - for customer service in my book. I ended up having to buy a new set of stubby end caps from a vendor I found on this forum.
Bottom line:
I personally love the look and think the XHD goes with the lines of the JK best out of all of the aftermarket bumpers (my opinion) that I was looking at for my needs (non winch mount, factory fog light cut outs). They are solid and, yes they are modular...but they are not built to be messed aorund with often.
I can't speak much on Poison Spyder, other than I think they have some great products, and I wish I had the extra cash to pony up for them. Hope this helps!
Yeah, I really liked the XHD myself, both for the modular aspect and its overall looks.

And, as I said, when reading info on the forums it's wise to view everything with a bit of skepticism. I don't want people to think I'm trashing the RR bumper; I'm not. I just felt there were some POTENTIAL negatives for my particular application.

That said, I bought a bumper that weighs 40 lbs more than the RR. Also a negative, since weight is an enemy of performance, but one I could live with.

It's pretty rare to find a good, unbiased review like yours.

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