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Old 06-21-2012, 08:00 PM   #1
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Popping in steering wheel on JKs...driveway repair

Sorry if this has already been posted.

Got tired of the "popping" sensation in my steering wheel when turning back and forth...and I knew that a trip to the dealership would yield a "we don't notice it" response and wasted time and gas. So.. I fixed it myself.

Used: Ratchets, long extensions, 13mm socket, grease, flat blade screwdriver, wire snippers.

First, make sure you keep up with the position of your steering wheel! You must reinstall everything with the wheel in the exact position it was in relative to the tires that it was in before you started.

Now, remove the 13mm bolt at the upper end of the steering shaft. Then remove the one at the bottom end (near the A/C compressor). It helps to turn the steering wheel so that the bolt heads face up, and then you can use 13mm socket with long extensions to get the bolts out. Remove this intermediate steering shaft from the vehicle.

Now, using a flat blade screwdriver, pry up on the band clamp release notch on one end of the rubber boot. This will release the clamp and allow you to slide the rubber boot off the shaft exposing the splines.

Grease the splines thoroughly. Then work the two halfs together a few times and grease again. Reinstall the boot and reattach the band clamp. If you have trouble reusing the band clamp, a tie strap will work also.

Reinstall the shaft back in the vehicle and tighten the 13mm bolts TO SPEC. MAKE SURE YOU PROPERLY TORQUE THE BOLTS. You do NOT want these bolts coming loose on the highway. Again, keep track of the position of the steering wheel to the tires throughout this process.

Total time spent: 20 minutes. No more popping and no trip to the stealership.
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:06 PM   #2
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what caused the popping noise? the splines were rubbing on the shaft?

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Old 06-21-2012, 08:24 PM   #3
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what caused the popping noise? the splines were rubbing on the shaft?
The splines are usually not greased well enough from the factory. This causes a loose feeling in the steering wheel on many JKs. It's also a big problem on GM trucks. Regressing the splines usually stops the knocking, popping, loosness whatever you want to call it. The splines on this JK were so dry you could feel the friction when moving the two halves together.
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Wouldn't using a grease injection needle accomplish the same thing with less work?
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:09 PM   #5
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So far no problem with mine but just incase I need to do this what is the recommended torque spec?
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Great timing, I just noticed this today and was trying to think of a way to describe it without sounding like a moron. Probably take a look at this when I put the leveling kit on next week.
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You can also just greese the boot with a needle gun and avoid the risk of wrong assembly or torque on the steering shaft.
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You can also just greese the boot with a needle gun and avoid the risk of wrong assembly or torque on the steering shaft.

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Wouldn't using a grease injection needle accomplish the same thing with less work?
I knew I said that lol
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You can also just greese the boot with a needle gun and avoid the risk of wrong assembly or torque on the steering shaft.
Yep but I think removing the whole upper shaft allows for the grease to fully reach all parts. Sometimes needles can be tricky to get the ins of everything. That's my two cents and I have no first hand knowledge to back it up though.

I had the shaft replaced under warranty last year on my 2010 for the same thing. Was fine for about 4 months and then the knock returned. I think as already mentioned, the splines are dry as dirt and don't get lubricated enough from the factory and or it dries out and must be re-dressed routinely.
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I knew I said that lol
Lol, here is a toot toot for your horn peep : D
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Be sure whatever method you choose, that a quality moly bearing grease is used. The traditional "black" goop is only good for fifth wheels.
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Had been getting the repeated thud in my steering wheel. Started only turning to the right than on any rough road all the time. If you put your hand over the horn area you could really feel it. Like it was coming straight up from the front end. All of a sudden you could hear a loose wire scraping inside the steering wheel when you turned it and my cruise quit working. Still under warranty took it in. They replaced the clock spring only. That was all that was stated on the work order as far as work completed. Thud completely gone like new again.
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Wouldn't using a grease injection needle accomplish the same thing with less work?
I did this.

Why not just replace with new/better ?
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Lol, here is a toot toot for your horn peep : D
Lol....thanks
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Why not just replace with new/better ?
What are you gonna replace it with?
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What are you gonna replace it with?
Good question !!

There is an HD for everything right? lol
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Good question !!

There is an HD for everything right? lol
Oddly enough I still haven't seen of of these.
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Oddly enough I still haven't seen of of these.


somebody want to make some loot? Lol
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I read about guys using grease injection needles before I did mine. But how are you going to get grease equally to all the splines if you can't even see them? So I chose to slide the boot down and manually grease them up.

Taking the shaft out of the Jeep is optional. I did just to make it easier. Still, like I said it was a 20 minute job. So far today, I've had no popping and no feeling of looseness in the front end.
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Oddly enough I still haven't seen of of these.
Borgesson will custom make anything for individual orders
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How do you get those black clips back on!
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How do you get those black clips back on!
You can't..at least I could not. I just took 2 "worm screw clamps" (like the one's you would use on a muffler) to clamp the black hose down. Tried zip tie but could not get it tight enough from preventing the hose from slipping down.

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